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Author: Rahah

[JTBC/viu/ONEHD 2022] REBORN RICH - Song Joong Ki, Shin Hyun Bin, Lee Sung Min

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Post time 27-12-2022 12:17 PM | Show all posts
sebelum ada yg OT terlebih2, sapa2 nak sembang pasal awek baru SJK, sila masuk thread ni :
https://b.cari.com.my/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=5069922&extra=page%3D1&page=48


bukan apa, takut nanti kalau ada yg nak baca pasal drama je, terpaksa baca benda lain pulak...

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Post time 28-12-2022 07:06 AM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
Edited by sitisbp at 28-12-2022 07:53 AM

Lepas 2 hari memikir ni my takes on the dream/ reborn issue....sini je tmt nak luahkan. Takde org baca pun takpe kihkihkih. Just nak melepaskan yg terbuku di hati je hahaha.

  HW have knowledge about all economic crisis n trends in the 90s to 2000s. Sebab dia umur beza  2 thn je dgn dojun. Masa crisis IMF tu dia kan sepatutnya amik college entrance exam kan tp sbb financial problem family he had no choice but to work instead of studying.
And dia budak pandai ya cuma takde luck sbb lahir dlm poverty. So he was aware of the country situation. Dia pun kerja dgn soonyang as contract worker until now in the span of 20yrs. Of course dia ada experienced mcm mana soonyang dealing dgn level bawahan. Turning point bila dia terlibat dgn accident tu. His life already hit rock bottom...hutang ayah dia bertambah2.

HW witnessed the accident  n saw DJ face. This is the point current HW was BORN. At epi 16 yg dia cuci tangan n look in the mirror ckp dia nak lupakan muka DJ.. so manage to suppressed the trauma .. his mantra was to just follow whatever job /instructions from the jins with no questions ask. But he keep his guard up jugak kan. Bak kata minyeong spjg dia kenal Hw mcm pakai baju armor.

But when he was shot at the cliff tu, i think it triggered his trauma n guilt. Everthing comes back to him. Why suddenly jins want  to kill him.? What did he do wrong now?

HW was REBORN at this point.
Walaupun he choose to accept the offer as permanent staff tu dulu dia rasa justified sbb nak get out from poverty but he knew its still wrong. And knowingly kerja dgn org yg orchestrated  the accident, mr kim n jin young ki. Sbb tu dia masih simpan bukti phone convo or dia cari bukti tu as insurance. Deep down he feel guilty no matter how hard he's trying to block it.

20yrs of working he knew their work ethics   their thinking semua. He knew all the dirty n mismanagement..slush fund .. how to avoid tax etc.. he knew it as HW before the killing.

He saw how the rich using money n power..he has his hand in it directly.  
So all this knowledge manifestation la yg create the dreamlike state he is living as dojun. Because ke knew dojun was killed..and they killed him too. He wanted to know who killed him just before they shot him.

So his dream/so called reborn is actually his regret and wishful thinking. What he can do to outsted the jin as if he were dojun. Thats why he cannot change his mothers fate...n even dojun fate. The connecting point is that accident where he saw dojun face.  When the dream of accident occured masa tu dia sedar fr coma . Coma 7 hari je tp perasaanya mcm 17 thn hidup as dojun.

The jin was evil and still is. His decision to continue his mission yg dlm dreamstate tu bila mr kim masih lookdown on him saying only those in power can seek revenge.  

Pasal minyeong pulak. HW sememangnya pernah jumpa dia. As org suruhan soonyang hw pasti tau sejarah minyeong vs soonyang. Dia yg selalu uruskan dokumen sblm pihak MY raided their workplace. Pasti jugak tau MY tu fiancee dojun, walopon takde info printed officially about 4-2. Cumanya prinsipnya kan tak dgr tak tanya etc. Ikut shj arahan. He blocked everything else...

Miracle pun mestilah dia tau ...takkan sejarah soonyang vs miracle takde dlm mana2 documents. Ni my assumption je.

This is how i want to accept the final episode la. Healing my brain from the plot twist hahaha..tenangggg.
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Post time 28-12-2022 10:42 AM | Show all posts
Tingginyeeeee rating RR ni ye....wow

Okay Joong Ki - what's next from you.....

( i dont care who is Katy Louise Saunders , that's your personal choice and rights)

I  only want to see the best quality and intelligent acting and analysis of character from your drama...so  what is next  Joong Ki?



eh , so weekend ni - hanya Alchemy  jelah yg best untuk ditonton...
Forbidden Marriage
Unlock My boss....

Oh citer Interests of Love tu best tak Mun Ga Yong?
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Post time 29-12-2022 12:01 PM | Show all posts
finally dah tengok epi 16.

nak kata brilliant ending tu tak lah, tapi akhirnya me faham dah.

hw koma seminggu tapi hidup dlm jasad org mati 20tahun. semua anak beranak tokjin kecuali mak dojun, lepaskan shares dalam soonyang. rasanya mr oh ada ckp, dojun ada tinggalkan harta untuk mak dia kan, rasanya shraes dalam soonyang tu lah kan..30% ke kalau tak silap.

surprised sikit bila ha in sheok cakap hw tu dojun masa dalam mahkamah. baik hw or dojun, dua² sayang n in love dengan prosecutor seo kan..macam dejavu je bila hw cakap pakaian seo cantik masa tengok tv besar, yg artis seo minat tu buat comeback..
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Post time 29-12-2022 12:03 PM | Show all posts
nak kata more to repetance pun tak juga..lebih kepada nak perbetulkan apa yg salah , mcm nak tegakkan keadilan undang². rasuah tak boleh diguna pakai macam tu..yg selamatnya, nenek dia lah...dah hantar terbang ntah kemana tanpa dihadap ke muka pengadilan..
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Post time 29-12-2022 12:27 PM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
chikumanis replied at 29-12-2022 12:01 PM
finally dah tengok epi 16.

nak kata brilliant ending tu tak lah, tapi akhirnya me faham dah.

Part dia koma seminggu tp mengalami kehidupan as dojun 17thn tu dia kata bukan possession or time travel kan.

Tp contradict bila driver tu panggil dia dojun kat public hearing tu. And Hw pun
blh pulak suka minyeong jgk. 2 point ni nampak mcm mmg hw betul2 hidup as dojun la.

I ada baca komen2 yg driver tu derang ckp bukan sbb muka hw mcm dojun (if dia kenal sepatutnya mak ayah abg, adik badik jin yg lain pun kenal) tp sbb hw gait/ expression/ body mcm dojun..n driver tu tak berapa waras / mentally unstable sbb tu dia silap sangka hw tu dojun.
Pasal suka minyeong tu x jumpa lg explanation yg logik utk betul2 eliminate feeling tu bukan dr masa dia hidup as dojun. Unless dia dah suka minyeong sblm koma lg.
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Post time 29-12-2022 12:29 PM | Show all posts
15 & 16..sgtttttt kecewa!..

iols laju kan je 2 episode ni..

nak kata dia sum up seme situasi dlm 2 episode ni mcm xkena..

pahamlaa kenapa knetz byk yg terbakar tgk ending ni...

ada baik nya dia ikut je webtoon asal kalo ending mcmni...

tp yelaa...lain org lain selera...

dari epi 1 - 14 mmg berasap2 enjin..tup2 2 episode....terus mati enjin last lap lane...

hmmmmmmmm..hahaha

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Post time 29-12-2022 12:59 PM | Show all posts
sitisbp replied at 29-12-2022 12:27 PM
Part dia koma seminggu tp mengalami kehidupan as dojun 17thn tu dia kata bukan possession or time  ...

rasanya hw memang dah suka seo. masa seo ambush ofis soonyang, lepas tu ambil semua komputer, n lastly baru dia realise yg komputer tu semua baru je bali. kiranya hw dan dojun pun sama juga bijaknya, cepat buat kerja.

memang dia ada kata bukan possession or time travel tp as repetance. but for me lah, lebih kepada memperbetulkan apa yg salah dan silap n revenge sbb dia bukan tokjin favourite grandson lepas kes seong jin jatuhkan pasu tu.

yg driver tu pun mungkin dia menyesal tak beritahu awal² siapa yg bersubahat masa tolong angkat kotak. jadi, dia pilih utk jadi alcoholic smpai biol..
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Post time 29-12-2022 01:01 PM | Show all posts
hunny_bunny replied at 29-12-2022 12:29 PM
15 & 16..sgtttttt kecewa!..

iols laju kan je 2 episode ni..

me tak tengok cerita yg korang duk ckp kat webtoon ke apa. me memang pure tengok cerita ni n tak tengok drama yang mana 1 diorang tiru tu.

me ada komen sebelum ni, utk epi 10 ke 11, me tak paham lagi jalan ceritanya. bila dah ending, ok now me dah paham.

betul lah tu, lain orang, lain selera kan...
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Post time 29-12-2022 01:49 PM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
hunny_bunny replied at 29-12-2022 12:29 PM
15 & 16..sgtttttt kecewa!..

iols laju kan je 2 episode ni..

Haha analogi yg sesuai.. tgh race last lap..dah nampak checkered flag ..engine mati.
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Post time 29-12-2022 01:58 PM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
chikumanis replied at 29-12-2022 12:59 PM
rasanya hw memang dah suka seo. masa seo ambush ofis soonyang, lepas tu ambil semua komputer, n la ...

Sbb tu i buat kesimpulan kat komen page sblm ni...hw dah ada semua knowledge n org yg bijak. Dream tu manifestation penyesalan dia n keazaman nak tau siapa yg arahkan dia di bunuh. Dia sedar dia senasib dgn dojun pada ketika dia di tembak n sedar dia pun tak akan dpt keadilan kerana choose to keep quite. Karma is real haha.
Cuma tu la point driver tu kenal n hw suka kat minyeong je yg mcm mencabar kesimpulan i. But blh terima la komen netz pasal driver mentally tingtong n hw dah suka minyeong sblm kena tembak lg.
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Post time 29-12-2022 04:10 PM | Show all posts
sitisbp replied at 29-12-2022 01:49 PM
Haha analogi yg sesuai.. tgh race last lap..dah nampak checkered flag ..engine mati.

masa tengok epi 15 tu, me dah boleh agak yg 2nd time dojun kena langgar dari belakang. kalau nak ikut logik akal, kita dah potong pun lori tu kan. sah² tak ada kereta lain dari depan n sisi...nak berhenti buat apa kan? kihkihkihhh
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Post time 29-12-2022 04:11 PM | Show all posts
sitisbp replied at 29-12-2022 01:58 PM
Sbb tu i buat kesimpulan kat komen page sblm ni...hw dah ada semua knowledge n org yg bijak. Dream ...

ya betul. me plak sejenis tak suka sebenarnya cerita yg kena tunggu next episod ni tau. decendants ke ntah macamana eja pun, lepas diorang kawin-cerai, baru me layan...
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Post time 29-12-2022 06:04 PM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
chikumanis replied at 29-12-2022 04:10 PM
masa tengok epi 15 tu, me dah boleh agak yg 2nd time dojun kena langgar dari belakang. kalau nak i ...

Betulllll.... mana ada keta lain pun masa tu dr depan or blkg. Logiknya potong je la lori tu..sengaja plak tunggu. Kurang2 buat la ada keta dr opposite so tak blh nak motong kan. Pointnya benda mimpi kena ada kejutan baru blh terjaga hahaha. Memori yg dia dok block ni la kejutkan dia.
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Post time 30-12-2022 02:11 PM | Show all posts
sitisbp replied at 29-12-2022 01:49 PM
Haha analogi yg sesuai.. tgh race last lap..dah nampak checkered flag ..engine mati.

kannnn..tah apa2 ending....


xpelaa da abes pun..lain org lain selera...gituu
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 Author| Post time 31-12-2022 10:34 PM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
Edited by Rahah at 31-12-2022 10:47 PM

Finally... Done watching...
Iols nak catchup drama lain pulak...
Bersusun drama dalam list...

Ingatkan Hyeonwoo tu betul2 mati sebab kena tembak kat kepala...

Iols assume masa Hyeonwoo koma tu roh Hyeonwoo tu memang masuk dalam body Dojun sebab Dojun dah mati... anything is possible sebab genre fantasy... walaupun koma seminggu jer... macam concept time travel... rasa macam writernim nak ubah Hyeonwoo ni mimpi... tapi jadi macam tu pulak endingnya... saja suruh viewers fikir...
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Post time 1-1-2023 05:27 AM | Show all posts
Edited by mbhcsf at 1-1-2023 05:32 AM
Rahah replied at 31-12-2022 10:34 PM
Finally... Done watching...
Iols nak catchup drama lain pulak...
Bersusun drama dalam list...

itulah tembak tu u tau ...jarak dekat tu , kalauikutkan  trajectory atau laluan peluru dalam  brain/kepala tu dah sebabkan severe atau keterukan dan kerosakan  tissue otak yg sangat teruk akibat momentum dan impact peluru dalam laluanke dlm brain tu , hahaha
may be laluan oeluru tu dinyah pecut oleh tangan HW ketika ditembak, kan HW letak tangan dia  atas kepala....heheheheheheeeheh


wow lah ...takdir lah....miracle habis ...terkejut i bila ep 16 HW hidup!!!! tapi sedih Do Jun mati sebab, dia tak dapat plan ape ape yg concrete walaupun tahu  dia kaan mati dalam second murder attempt.

1st attempt tu- isterti atuk Jin, grandma Lee..
2nnd attempt - adoiii dia tak dapat nak fikir ...camne ...nak back ups ....

but the HW wujud to redeem himself....SCMP reviewer citer RR dalam article dia kata tak puas hati..dia pun tanyakan soalan yg sama dengan i ...
pada I ....bile tengok motivasi HW miliki Soon Yang,  tu ithnik i accept the ending...sebab it' s more to redemption ...itu sumber motivasi Do Jun dlm keadaan dia hidup dan bawah sedar  - dia pun tak leh jawab kan semasa dia hidup apabila soalan tu ditanya berkali kali... / HW dalam bdn Do Jun  masa coma...jawapan tersirat kepada soalan Atuk Jin kepada do Jun telah terjawab setelah , beberapa kali soalan tu ditanya , kan? selama dalam ep 2-14....






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 Author| Post time 2-1-2023 04:33 PM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
Edited by Rahah at 2-1-2023 04:56 PM
mbhcsf replied at 1-1-2023 05:27 AM
itulah tembak tu u tau ...jarak dekat tu , kalauikutkan  trajectory atau laluan peluru dalam  brain ...


Kan...
Biasa orang commit suicide pun ada yang tembak kepala... memang tak logik part ni... kalau hidup pun I think dia paralyzed...

Sebab Dojun kata tak boleh ubah fate... better Dojun hidup lagi kan... Hyeonwoo ni make sense dia boleh hidup tapi bukan tembak kat kepala...

Actually kan tak tau concept apa writernim write about Hyeonwoo ni... macam mimpi tapi semua berlaku tu realiti bila dia reborn jadi Dojun... so dream + reincarnation + time travel...

Yup... part redemption tu I terima...
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Post time 1-4-2023 12:23 PM | Show all posts
motif si hero ni x bantu family dia yg miskin semasa dpt 24 juta dr atok dia tu...kedek sgt....lepas tu acah2 nangis masa mak dia mati ...kowser...
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Post time 12-5-2023 11:12 AM | Show all posts
aku br layan drama ni disbbkan oleh jetlag aku ni. br masuk ep 7 ke 8. suka tgk dojun ni strategise.
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