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the difference between muslim convert and christian convert

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Post time 16-2-2009 04:01 PM | Show all posts |Read mode
after seeing debmey persistent effort posting stories of ex-muslim, i started searching for some more stories and i notice something quite interesting..

christian convert (from any beliefs convert to christianity) are mostly commoners and people in certain dillema regarding issues such as lifestyle, poverty, restriction etc.

while muslim convert (from any beliefs convert to islam) are mix of people with substantial public status and scientists.

you can just google 'scientist convert to islam/christianity' for a quick test

why is that? care to comment?
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Post time 16-2-2009 04:07 PM | Show all posts

Balas #1 hujanhijau\ catat

coz those who reverts back to Islam (there is no such thing as a "convert to Islam" , pm me if you want an explanations.) are those who think with their brains and studied the Quran without a slightest feeling of biased in their heart.

those who converts to Christians thinks with their earthly lust, thinking that Christian allowed sosial freedom without them looking and studying the Bible themselves.
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 Author| Post time 16-2-2009 05:26 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by gunblade712 at 16-2-2009 04:07 PM
coz those who reverts back to Islam (there is no such thing as a "convert to Islam" , pm me if you want an explanations.) are those who think with their brains and studied the Quran without a sli ...


i think i know what you mean...
Gary Miller said something similar once, right?
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Post time 16-2-2009 05:31 PM | Show all posts

Balas #3 hujanhijau\ catat

I think so.

heard it from both Yusuf Estes and Sheikh Faiz.
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Post time 16-2-2009 08:19 PM | Show all posts
in malaysia, normally coz by our country rules
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 Author| Post time 17-2-2009 08:50 AM | Show all posts
wheres debmey by the way..
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 Author| Post time 17-2-2009 10:23 AM | Show all posts
debmey, dont you want to have fun here?
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Post time 10-3-2009 12:41 PM | Show all posts
anyway, do we need scientific study on Islam? becos they are so particulars about Islam......tapi kalau hati dah takde hidayah, buat la mcmana pon.....let them be. tanggungjawab kita just to convey the message..that's what left from our beloved Prophet....
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Post time 10-3-2009 02:42 PM | Show all posts

Balas #5 cabang\ catat

since when did our country rule stated that you have to become a Muslim?
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 Author| Post time 10-3-2009 03:00 PM | Show all posts

Balas #5 cabang\ catat

if Malaysia really have such rule, there wont be any christians or hindus in Malaysia..

get your facts right bro

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Post time 10-3-2009 03:42 PM | Show all posts
islam converts are enticed with special rights and priviledges and the right to own 4 wives.
Chrsitian converts face persecution by malaysian authorities and muslim relatives and frens.

Islam converts are not allowed to leave islam after they joined it.
Christian converts are free to continue or leave the religion, no coercion.
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Post time 10-3-2009 03:45 PM | Show all posts

Balas #11 Debmey\ catat

every religion gave out their own "rights", debmey..

what you say is based in Malaysia's law only, which, applied to Malays..

If Christian converts are free to continue or leave the religion, then you are not following your own Bible. Deuteronomy clearly says that you must persecute those who leave the religion.

If you say that the rule is abolished, then please show me a verse in the later books of the bible that relinquished the law.

If not, the Law must be hold... which you Christians failed to do.
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 Author| Post time 10-3-2009 03:58 PM | Show all posts

Balas #11 Debmey\ catat

congratulations, you finally have the gut to post here!

now, take one more step and read why those scientist embraced islam, you love reading articles about converts right..
or do you want me to post some here?
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Post time 10-3-2009 04:07 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by hujanhijau at 10-3-2009 15:58
congratulations, you finally have the gut to post here!

now, take one more step and read why those scientist embraced islam, you love reading articles about converts right..
or do you want ...

post le.......leh wa tumpang sekaki
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Post time 10-3-2009 04:09 PM | Show all posts

most scientists want to make deals

Most scientists think they can make deals after become Muslims
in rich countries..
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Post time 10-3-2009 04:17 PM | Show all posts

Balas #15 13Friday\ catat

wow......



dont be jelous....

why?  non muslim countries are not rich enough?

if i m not mistaken, here is always an arena to propagate that most muslim countries are poor and western one are rich....

so according to your post, they dont support their own scientist?....ah ridiculuous....
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Post time 10-3-2009 04:27 PM | Show all posts

Balas #15 13Friday\ catat

taht's all?

by all means, elaborate..
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 Author| Post time 10-3-2009 04:38 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by 13Friday at 10-3-2009 16:09
Most scientists think they can make deals after become Muslims
in rich countries..


really? these guys?

A German Physician and His Wife
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=LlOSQXzecv8

Czech and European Scientists
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=bUozJS-alvE

Dr.Webber from England
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=AvTpqdEvk1Y
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Post time 10-3-2009 07:04 PM | Show all posts
What about the scientists that are Christians? Why don't you believe in all those scientists?

Here's an Arabic doctor who left islam. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=up3yuQDAWKQ
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 Author| Post time 11-3-2009 01:38 PM | Show all posts

Balas #19 Debmey\ catat

i never said there wasnt one.
the only thing i claimed is that theres MORE scientist chose islam rather than christianity

which side would you put your trust on, a group of 100 scientist or a group of 10 scientist? would you believe a majority or a minority?
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