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China defeats and forces US Forces to Retreat: 58 years ago from today

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Post time 30-11-2008 07:25 AM | Show all posts |Read mode
During end of November. of 1950...in the Korean Peninsula, 58 years ago....the Chinease attacked American and UN forces and completey surprised, stoped  and surrounded the US forces in North Korea...many American units were surrounded and some were decimated and destroyed...

.so it began the longest retreat in American History of the US forces , expelled from North Korea to below the 38th Parrelell ...it was also the fiirst time in a century, China was able to defeat a Western power......

Here is the story...


Chinease Surprised Attack


The Chosin Reservoir





The Battle of Chosin Reservoir was a battle in the Korean War, in which 30,000 United Nations (UN) troops (nicknamed the "Frozen Chosin" or "The Chosin Few") under the command of American General Ned Almond faced approximately 120,000 Chinese troops. The name Chosin is the Japanese rendition of the Korean place name Changjin. The name stuck due to the outdated Japanese names on maps used by UN forces.

The battles of the Chosin Campaign, which had a decisive impact on the future course of the war, were fought in the ten day period between November 27 and December 6, 1950.

Shortly after the People's Republic of China entered the conflict, large numbers of Chinese soldiers swept across the Yalu River, encircling the UN forces in the northeastern part of North Korea at the Chosin Reservoir. A brutal battle in freezing weather followed. Although they inflicted enormous casualties on the Chinese forces, the UN troops were forced to evacuate North Korea after they withdrew from the reservoir to the port of Hungnam.


Background

By mid-October 1950, the Korean War appeared to be nearly over to many UN leaders. Most of North Korea had been captured by the American-led UN forces. However, on October 25, 1950, the People's Republic of China entered the war and huge numbers of Chinese soldiers poured across the border into Korea. The UN command, under General Douglas MacArthur, was slow to appreciate the danger.

The X Corps troops at Changjin, mainly the U.S. 1st Marine Division, elements of the U.S. 7th Infantry Division, and 41 Commando Royal Marines were, by late November, surrounded by units of the Ninth Army Group of the People's Liberation Army (referred hereafter as Chinese Communist Forces, or CCF). The Chinese launched heavy assaults that halted the UN offensive. MacArthur and Almond ordered Major General O.P. Smith, commander of the 1st Marine Division and associated forces in the Chosin area, to fight his way out of the trap. Starting on November 26, 1950, the UN troops began a fighting withdrawal to the south, towards Hungnam.




Destruction of an US Army Task Force

On the eastern side of the Changjin Reservoir, a 3,000-man composite U.S. Army task force from the 7th Infantry Division, RCT 31, was isolated by the 80th CCF Division, reinforced by a regiment of the 81st CCF Division. On the second day, the CCF commander committed the remainder of the 81st and held the 94th Division in reserve for his main effort down the east side of the reservoir (these units originally were en route to finish off the garrison at Hagaru-ri). Greatly outnumbered and worn down by incessant attacks, RCT 31 was virtually destroyed. Survivors from this unit reached Marine lines at Hagaru-ri on December 2, 1950. Some survivors of RCT 31 and other army units, including an army tank company and combat engineers, joined Smith's forces and participated in the breakout.

Task Force Drysdale-US Marines and British Royal Marines side by side

In mid-November 1950, the roughly 300 men of 41 Independent Commando, Royal Marines, under the command of Lieutenant Colonel Douglas B. Drysdale, were attached to the U.S. 1st Marine Division. This marked the second time that U.S. Marines and Royal Marines had served together.[1] (The first time was during the Boxer Rebellion.)

On the morning of November 29, Major General O.P. Smith, commanding general of the 1st Marine Division, ordered Puller to send a task force to open up the road between Koto-ri and Hagaru-ri, where the majority of the division was. The breakthrough force was composed of Drysdale’s 41 Royal Commando, Captain Carl Sitter's G Company, 3rd Battalion 1st Marines (G/3/1), B Company, 31st Infantry Regiment, and various Headquarters and Services Marines. All totaled, the task force was around 900 men and 140 vehicles.[2]

The task force struck out of Koto-ri at 09:30 on November 29, and by 16:30, it had advanced only halfway to the objective, because of stiff enemy resistance. Halfway to Hagaru-ri, the Chinese ambushed the task force and cut it to pieces. The units of the Task Force had become bogged down, separated and were not in radio contact in an area later named "Hell Fire Valley" by Lieutenant Colonel Drysdale. After being reinforced by tanks from D Company, 1st Tank Battalion, Drysdale contacted Smith at Hagaru-ri and was told to “Press on at all costs.” Drysdale responded by stating, “Very well, then: we’ll give them a show.”[3] He passed word that they were going to run the gauntlet to Hagaru-ri.

Of the 900 men of Task Force Drysdale, approximately 300 arrived at Hagaru-ri, 300 were killed or wounded and about 135 were taken prisoner, with the rest making it back to Koto-ri. Seventy-five of the 141 vehicles were also destroyed. Some considered the mission poorly conceived and doomed from the start. Major General Smith was not so quick to write it off however, saying that it was at least a partial success because it delivered over 300 seasoned infantrymen and a tank company to the beleaguered defenses at Hagaru-ri.



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Final phases of the battle

In their withdrawal, U.S. troops were either attacking—conducting numerous assaults to clear Chinese roadblocks and overlooking hill positions—or under furious Chinese attack. The sub-zero temperatures inflicted even more casualties than the Chinese. U.S. forces enjoyed total air supremacy, with Navy, Marine, and Air Force fighter-bombers flying hundreds of sorties a day against the encircling Chinese. Over 4,000 wounded were flown out and 500 replacements flown in during the operation, contributing considerably to its success. The Marines and soldiers were able to destroy or effectively disable all seven Chinese divisions that tried to block their escape from the reservoir. Despite the effort of many Marines, whose plight attracted world-wide attention and was seized on by the western media as a "moral victory" in the midst of defeat, the strategic situation was highly unfavorable for UN forces, and it was decided to withdraw the entire X Corps from North Korea. The Marines, the rest of X Corps, and thousands of civilian refugees were evacuated by ship from the port of Hŭngnam, which was then destroyed to deny its use to the communists.

The U.S. Marines consider the Battle of the Chosin Reservoir to be one of the proudest parts of their own history. The Marines marched out in an orderly fashion and intact. Likewise, the Chinese People's Volunteer Army considered the battle an honor, although they were not prepared for the amount of casualties they incurred. This campaign, with the simultaneous victory against U.S. forces to the west, was the first time in a century that a Chinese army was able to defeat a Western army in a major battle
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Post time 30-11-2008 08:42 AM | Show all posts
Human wave assault....
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Post time 30-11-2008 10:07 AM | Show all posts
Originally posted by alphawolf at 30-11-2008 08:42
Human wave assault....


betul...china pakai huwan wave.....mana cukup tgn nak hala bedil....patut nya U.N masa tu guna napalm atas human wave ni..... ..kasi BBQ sama human wave tu...
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Post time 30-11-2008 10:29 AM | Show all posts
Ramai sangat..lepas dah masuk close quarters camne nak pakai....
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Post time 30-11-2008 12:08 PM | Show all posts

Reply #4 alphawolf's post

tu pasal la..even today..faktor bilangan anggota tentera tu penting jugak..numbers are important too....bukan suka2 je kita/ATM patut kurang/trim kan bilangan anggota...
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Post time 1-12-2008 03:52 AM | Show all posts
Too heavy casualties for the Chinese.
I think China should not have entered the Korean War.
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Post time 1-12-2008 08:44 AM | Show all posts

Reply #6 Debmey's post

But they probably could afford it
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Post time 1-12-2008 08:47 AM | Show all posts

Balas #5 razhar\ catat

We've numbers..... the number increasing by hour now....
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Post time 1-12-2008 09:02 AM | Show all posts

Reply #8 SangSaka's post

really?
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Post time 1-12-2008 09:13 AM | Show all posts
Originally posted by alphawolf at 1-12-2008 08:44 AM
But they probably could afford it


I read somewhere that China spent 60% of national budget on the war and suffered 1 million casualties.
This destroyed the economy and country.
They misread the USA and saw the invasion of NK as a threat to invade China as well which was never the intention.
Thats why it was too high a price to pay.
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Post time 1-12-2008 10:21 AM | Show all posts

Reply #10 Debmey's post

again you got it wrong...they were having economic and political troubles, so your uncle Mao committed his troops for national glory while conveniently tsweeping he troubles under the carpet away from the masses...par for course for dictators lahhhh..
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Post time 1-12-2008 12:11 PM | Show all posts
Not true sir, Mao really thought the US would invade China. Thats why Mao's son was sent to the front line and died there.

They read the UN and USA wrongly.
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Post time 2-12-2008 09:03 PM | Show all posts
Not true sir, Mao really thought the US would invade China. Thats why Mao's son was sent to the front line and died there.

They read the UN and USA wrongly.


WRONG ON BOTH COUNTS.

Mao was, is & will be GOD in China. If he says, "Lets eat GIs for breakfast, lunch & dinner served alongside tastier Korean kimchis", the Sino Red Commies will do so, no question asked, no quarter given.

Don't try justified what's in the past, it had happen.
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Post time 2-12-2008 11:23 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by robotech at 2-12-2008 09:03 PM


WRONG ON BOTH COUNTS.

Mao was, is & will be GOD in China. If he says, "Lets eat GIs for breakfast, lunch & dinner served alongside tastier Korean kimchis", the Sino Red Commies will do so, ...



China paid the price and it wasn't worth it. The US didn't have any plans to invade China and Chinese economy collapsed funding the Korean war. It was a huge mistake.
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Post time 3-12-2008 09:21 AM | Show all posts

Reply #14 Debmey's post

It is big success for chinese, they save north korean from Western conquered...
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Post time 3-12-2008 07:42 PM | Show all posts
China paid the price and it wasn't worth it. The US didn't have any plans to invade China and Chinese economy collapsed funding the Korean war. It was a huge mistake.


A mistake that paid off quite well for China for more than 50 years. Having a rogue NK gave China's leverage against US forces based in Japan & Taiwan. NK acts as eyes & ears for China's top Commie leaderships of American & allied military movements on Korean Peninsula & surrounding China Seas.

America on the other hand, scared sh!tless to even thinking about crossing the DMZ, for fear of Sino reprisals. NK on the other hand, know that China will lend a hand militarillay & politically if NK were invaded once more.

Having a Red Commie Big Towkay overlooking Uncle Sam makes NK dictator regime a nice comfy sleep ...
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Post time 4-12-2008 09:59 AM | Show all posts
Originally posted by robotech at 3-12-2008 07:42 PM
A mistake that paid off quite well for China for more than 50 years. Having a rogue NK gave China's leverage against US forces based in Japan & Taiwan. NK acts as eyes & ears for China's top Commie leaderships of American & allied military movements on Korean Peninsula & surrounding China Seas.

Had nk not been threatening SK cos the war did not end, the US would have left SK and Japan.
It actually back fired on China.
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Post time 4-12-2008 06:19 PM | Show all posts

Balas #17 Debmey\ catat

ya ker? banyak la ko punya songeng...maunya Us nak tinggalkan jepun.... depa akan check china tuh jugak walaupon nk n sk bersatu semula..
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