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we're in the midst of having real democracy, savour this moment

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Post time 25-7-2008 11:48 PM | Show all posts |Read mode
salam ladies and gentlemen

i admit that i'm not a supporter of bn
to be precise, i'm a supporter of pr last pru
however, i'm not a totok pr (coined by forumners here)

however, this thread should not be a bickering area and mudslinging ground between pr and bn supporters

just want to propose forward some ideas so that we can ponder upon
-- and if you can see even a slightest hint of positive value and apply it in your daily life, i'll be the happiest person in this world

well, i don't think that i'm the most qualified person to talk about ketuanan melayu because i'm (scientifically) is only half-malay
so, i'll leave that unenviable task to any pejuang ketuanan melayu here

so, anyone prepared to have some objective, unemotional and fruitful chats?

[ Last edited by  ^ at 26-7-2008 12:48 AM ]
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Post time 26-7-2008 12:36 AM | Show all posts
who? Anwar ka?
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Post time 26-7-2008 12:39 AM | Show all posts
it's savour my dear..not saviour...
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Post time 26-7-2008 12:41 AM | Show all posts
haha!

Patut tendang aje masuk bod religion.
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 Author| Post time 26-7-2008 12:48 AM | Show all posts
Originally posted by hzln at 26-7-2008 12:39 AM
it's savour my dear..not saviour...

thanks darling

pssttt -- i'm having dyslexia

just look the position of 'I' and 'O' on your keyboard

that's where my problem lies
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Post time 26-7-2008 02:15 AM | Show all posts
nice try Juw...

Aku rasa tiada lagi ruang untuk perbincangan sihat antara kedua-dua puak kat CI ni...

Mula mula sindir menyindir, kutuk mengutuk.. last last maki memaki..
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Post time 26-7-2008 07:56 AM | Show all posts
tengku razali hamzam?

provocation?

vacation?

novocaine?

hi hi hi
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Post time 26-7-2008 09:14 AM | Show all posts
tak paham

provocation psl apa ni
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 Author| Post time 26-7-2008 09:16 AM | Show all posts
Originally posted by kuntau at 26-7-2008 02:15 AM
nice try Juw...

Aku rasa tiada lagi ruang untuk perbincangan sihat antara kedua-dua puak kat CI ni...

Mula mula sindir menyindir, kutuk mengutuk.. last last maki memaki..


juw?

why you're calling his name?

just let him rest in peace
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Post time 26-7-2008 10:09 AM | Show all posts
Saya bukan penyokong BN, saya juga bukan penyokong PR dan ergghh saya absolutely bukan penyokong PAS

Saya memberikan keputusan di tangan majoriti, sebab bagi saya tolak tambah bahagi campur, "ini sandiwara orang kaya-kaya" (quote from Bateesta)

in the end, we are still the victims.

Saya cuma melontarkan komentar bila saya tak berkenan. Contohnya, Lah masih mahu memerintah walaupun (mungkin) ramai orang tak suka beliau. Dan Anwar masih cuba nak jadi pemerintah walaupun (mungkin) beliau tahu beliau ramai musuh.

Kenapa tak boleh Lah turun saja dari takhta. Dan kenapa tak boleh Anwar tidak lagi melibatkan diri dengan politik bila beliau tahu "inilah akibatnya - fitnah" dan maybe menjadi guru dan mendidik anak-anak bangsa untuk tidak menjadi korup dan hipokrit bila mereka memerintah kelak. Dan kenapa orang PAS mesti 'meminjam' ayat Quran hanya bila nak menghentam orang. Mereka cuma ada $ dalam mata mereka.

Saya cuma mampu berdoa akhirnya Malaysia dipimpin oleh orang yang mungkin bukan 100% bersih tapi masih meletakkan tanggungjawap seiring dengan nafsu.
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Post time 26-7-2008 10:11 AM | Show all posts
By the way, kenapa politicians/leaders tak masuk Forum Cari ye? Artis-artis Malaysia sekarang dah pandai masuk Cari dan jadikan komen dalam board Gossip sebagai panduan mereka samada nak terus buat kontroversi atau nak terus buat baik. Boleh 'beli' peminat pun dari situ.

Pemimpin pun harus baca Cari ni. Supaya dorang tau apa yang rakyat suka dan tak suka, nak dan tak nak walaupun memang pahit untuk ditelan.
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Post time 26-7-2008 10:33 AM | Show all posts
i would rather called this forum `a space in public sphere'...


The public sphere

In The Structural Transformation of the Public Sphere J黵gen Habermas developed the influential concept of the public sphere, which emerged in the eighteenth century in Europe as a space of critical discussion, open to all, where private people came together to form a public whose "public reason" would work as a check on state power.

According to Habermas, a variety of factors resulted in the eventual decay of the public sphere, including the growth of a commercial mass media, which turned the critical public into a passive consumer public; and the welfare state, which merged the state with society so thoroughly that the public sphere was squeezed out. It also turned the "public sphere" into a site of self-interested contestation for the resources of the state rather than a space for the development of a public-minded rational consensus.
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Post time 26-7-2008 11:02 AM | Show all posts

Balas #11 Ben\ catat

aah teringin plak nk baca posting shaberi
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Post time 26-7-2008 11:20 AM | Show all posts

Balas #13 audioslavefan\ catat

Ramai sebenarnya VIP masuk tapi dia org baca2 tapi ada juga
yang ada Id pun
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Post time 26-7-2008 11:32 AM | Show all posts

Reply #13 audioslavefan's post

mesti banyak s dekat posting dia
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Post time 26-7-2008 11:34 AM | Show all posts
Originally posted by vivirp_25 at 26-7-2008 09:14 AM
tak paham

provocation psl apa ni


provok org umno supaya crita sikit pasai kuli ni


kat sini tak ramai yg nak cerita pasai kuli. baik dari pr atau bn

kalau lobai gudang tu, aku paham lah kenapa, walaupun kuli ni org umno, tapi dia kelantan mari...

dia mana buleh dengar kelantan... terus gatai gati celah kelengkang gitu
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Post time 27-7-2008 03:08 PM | Show all posts
please do us the honour and state your view of what democratie is all about, according to your own belief, what has to be done in order for us to achieve it

voice of the masses, and how will you collate it and translate it to accord with their wants and whimps   
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