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MAF to get SP mortar?

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Post time 28-9-2007 10:53 PM | Show all posts |Read mode
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Post time 28-9-2007 11:34 PM | Show all posts
Why can't we do this upgrades ourselves?

We have been independent for 50 years. Govt have spent billions if not trillions of ringgit to send people to universities with engineering degrees, masters and PhDs.

Look at Singapore, they upgrade their F-5s themselves, as well as producing some high-tech weaponaries.

MOD should start build up local military contractors rather than relying on foreign imports.

[ Last edited by  Penulis at 28-9-2007 11:37 PM ]
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Post time 28-9-2007 11:37 PM | Show all posts
aikk...!! dlm dendiam dah award... ??

Brp unit agaknya ek..?
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Reply #3 yellowfin's post

no idea yet, but it's going to be the stretched version of the ACV....
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Post time 28-9-2007 11:44 PM | Show all posts

Reply #3 yellowfin's post

120mm, kita dah ada 90 mm.......
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Post time 28-9-2007 11:49 PM | Show all posts

Reply #2 Penulis's post

I think they are by using DEFTECH.  The process of upgradings is not that hard 5 road wheels to 6 road wheels which is extending the baseline version.  But how much do you think DEFTECH would have to be paid to acquire all the necessary machinery to do that.  Since there's intellectual property you also have to buy the licensing for that and the systems integration.  So don't blame if we have to buy it from overseas since this is very specific technologies that is hard for DEFTECH to commercialize it.
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Post time 28-9-2007 11:50 PM | Show all posts

Reply #2 Penulis's post

Bro i think this is not an upgrades to the existing Adnan ACV but a new unit with bigger size (stretched) to allows the mounting of 120mm mortar...
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Post time 29-9-2007 12:14 AM | Show all posts
Ni ada simpan gambo masa buat mobility test kat malaysia.. Tp tak ingat mana dapat gambo nih.. sori la kalo terabik sesiapa punya kat sini eh..

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Post time 29-9-2007 12:15 AM | Show all posts
Lg satu...

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Post time 29-9-2007 12:20 AM | Show all posts
Originally posted by spiderweb6969 at 28-9-2007 11:41 PM
no idea yet, but it's going to be the stretched version of the ACV....


Yup... Mgkin yg mcm dlm gambo...
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Post time 29-9-2007 09:35 AM | Show all posts
rasanya depa beli dalam 6-8 biji jer.....
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Post time 29-9-2007 10:25 AM | Show all posts
Masa last DSA session last year ada DRB bawak satu example nie utk exhibition... 120mm motar example...aku dah budget TD bak blei yang nie..sebab so far dah ada 81mm motar carriers ( KIFV dan V150 Commando)..........yang aritu ada tulis nak beli Heavy Vehicle mounted ATGM 18 biji apa cerita?....
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Post time 29-9-2007 02:23 PM | Show all posts

Reply #11 windof's post

apsal skit sgt??beli la 20-30 bijik ker...
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Post time 29-9-2007 02:59 PM | Show all posts
120mm mortar is a very heavy round. Apart from more explosive, is there any guided rounds the Amry is interested?
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Post time 30-9-2007 01:32 AM | Show all posts

Reply #14 RainbowSix's post

The system is based on the TDA 2R2M 120 mm Mortar

Development/Description

The 120 mm 120 2R 2M recoiling rifled mortar system has been developed as a private venture for the export market by TDA (previously Thomson Brandt Armements) and can be fitted to a wide range of vehicles, tracked and wheeled, in the 10 to 15 tonnes class.

The 120 mm 120 2R 2M recoiling rifled mortar was developed from 1992 and was first revealed in 1993 with the first complete prototype being shown in 1994. As of mid-1999, volume production of this system had yet to commence.

The system has already been demonstrated in France and Saudi Arabia installed in the MOWAG Piranha (8 x 8) APC; it has also been installed in a Turkish FNSS Defense Systems Armoured Infantry Fighting Vehicle (AIFV) for trials in Turkey.

The 120 mm mortar and its associated hydraulic recoiling system is mounted on a circular turntable with ball bearing enabling it to be quickly traversed under power through 200
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Post time 30-9-2007 02:23 AM | Show all posts
Matmin, as the mortar is 120mm, I wonder whether MAF is planning to get Merlin, guided mortar rounds.
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Post time 30-9-2007 06:40 AM | Show all posts

Reply #16 RainbowSix's post

Hmmm good question...the 120mm Round has more flexibility.....guided mortar rounds would be a bonus...but I'm not sure of its combat effectiveness..I've not heard of anybody using it in combat ....yet..
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Post time 30-9-2007 03:24 PM | Show all posts

Re: Merlin

I thought the Merlin was a 81mm round and that it never entered service because the Brits cancelled the program.
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Post time 1-10-2007 03:41 AM | Show all posts

Reply #13 Periuk_api1209's post

Periuk_api,
the nos depends on the doctrine used

articles mentioned upgrades for KSA's ACV-300, not Malaysian's, so i'd suggest Penulis to pls read the article first, rather than reading the title alone , spent some time la, rather than straight shooting from the hip

imej dari website defence mag Poland, IIRC, sebb masa trial Rosomak ade skali

-aneep-
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Post time 1-10-2007 04:15 PM | Show all posts
bukan ini cerita lama ke?  rasanya wa dah pernah baca somewhere tentang MAF confirm beli 120mm mortar (RUAG Bighorn) c/w ACV300-S.  Lapan bijik sahaja.

ataupun ini semua deja vu?
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