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Hi guys...

please help me.. i've been searching for a chemistry text that explains about the reactions that occur between tollen's reagent and aldehyde functional group... but, i fail to find one... now, can you help me to answer these question:

- what are the reactions involved until silver mirror is produced?
- why does it only produce silver mirror with aldehyde?
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 Author| Post time 20-4-2007 09:38 AM | Show all posts

Reply #1 aku_EnSeM's post

and one last question.... how to post a new thread anyway.... the methods are different from last year...
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Post time 20-4-2007 09:19 PM | Show all posts

Reply #2 aku_EnSeM's post

i cant answer the first question coz i have no idea...but eager to read nanti...


soalan ke dua 2 tak silap sy tekan dua kali kat new(kat atas belah kanan tu),,,jangan tekan kat arrow tu...

tak pon buat fast reply terus kat bawah masa mula2 bukak forum....

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Post time 20-4-2007 10:09 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by aku_EnSeM at 20-4-2007 09:38
and one last question.... how to post a new thread anyway.... the methods are different from last year...


You just click NEW button,don't click POLL or ACTIVITY button
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 Author| Post time 21-4-2007 02:52 PM | Show all posts

Reply #4 Atomic_Omnikid's post

tq guys... hehehe...

now i'm waitin 4 my the answer of my 1st question...
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Post time 24-4-2007 12:53 AM | Show all posts

Reply #1 aku_EnSeM's post

The diaminesilver(I) complex is an oxidizing agent, which is itself reduced to silver metal, which in a clean glass reaction vessel forms a "silver mirror". This feature is used as a test for aldehydes, which are oxidized to carboxylic acids.

Tollen adalah oxidation agen, jadi kalau dia bertindakbalas dengan bahan tertentu, dia sendiri akan mengalami perubahan, dalam kes ini dia sendiri akan mengalami " reduction"... aldeyhe adalah component yg mengandungi satu atom oxigen yang mempunyai awan electron tidak berikatan dengan atom lain dan mempunyai double bond..yang mudah di " oxide"...

tindakbalas half reaction..
tollen --> alami reduction
aldey --> alami oxidation..

kalau confius..cari buku tidakabalas inorganic chemistry
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 Author| Post time 24-4-2007 09:48 AM | Show all posts

Reply #6 KTMan's post

okay. this is the best text that ive found within this 3 months.

Tollen's Reagents = ammoniacal silver nitrate....

Silver is reduced to atomic silver, which occurs as a 'mirror'. So then it oxidised the aldehyde group. This is an alkaline oxidisation, and the alkaline oxidisation is given by the ionisation of ammonia. So the responding carboxylate anion is produced.

But, i didn't use ammonia during my lab. these were my reagents:

ammonium nitrate
silver nitrate
aldehyde (glucose)
preservative
a basic solution (i 4got)


1) where did the ammonia come from? or is it no longer useful because there exist the ammonium ion? and, does the ammonium ion represents the basic condition? if so, what is the purpose of using a basic solution?

2) why is this reaction only occur for aldehyde, not alcohol, or any other reducing agent?
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Post time 24-4-2007 10:49 AM | Show all posts

Reply #7 aku_EnSeM's post

Tollens' reagent is usually ammoniacal silver nitrate, but can also be other things, as long as there is an aqueous diamminesilver(I) complex.
Diamminesilver(I), [Ag(NH3)2]+, the active species in Tollens' reagent. Ion Ammonia a.ka ammonium act as a ligand in transition metal complexes.

Laboratory Preparation

    * To aqueous silver nitrate, add a drop of dilute sodium hydroxide. A brown precipitate of silver oxide will form.
    * Add ammonia until the precipitate just dissolves.
    * This is ammoniacal silver nitrate, [Ag(NH3)2]NO3 (aq).

2. Alcohol is more stable compared to aldehye or ketone because its have single bond carbon with oxygen. alcohol can react with strong acid and base (e.g HCl or KOH) at room temperature or the absence or active catalyst like Nickel, Platinium at appopriate temperature
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Post time 10-5-2007 01:36 AM | Show all posts
oit. apa motif hg tanya pasai kimia kat tenet neh.
aku qasa lg bagoih kalau hg p tanya cikgu skolah hg. dia bleh explain one to one dgn hg. lg senang. mcm2 hg bleh tanya.
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Post time 10-5-2007 04:00 AM | Show all posts
Originally posted by aku_EnSeM at 20-4-2007 09:37 AM
Hi guys...

please help me.. i've been searching for a chemistry text that explains about the reactions that occur between tollen's reagent and aldehyde functional group... but, i fail to find  ...





Chemm.... chemmistry...........

I have no idea...... ask me about physics then I can answer you
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Post time 10-5-2007 11:51 AM | Show all posts

Reply #9 oldsocool's post

dia mahu belajar buat boom kot..
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Post time 10-5-2007 04:42 PM | Show all posts

Reply #1 aku_EnSeM's post

Yang satu saya tau.....

pencuci dynamo campur dengan petrol jadila bom........

panadol campur dengan coca cola jadilah pil khayal
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 Author| Post time 11-5-2007 03:58 PM | Show all posts

Reply #9 oldsocool's post

cikgu tu strict kat xam sangat ar... tanye sket, hey... u don't have to know this. u r wasting ur time....
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 Author| Post time 11-5-2007 04:00 PM | Show all posts

Reply #11 KTMan's post

  haku kene tuduh gitu plak....
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Post time 11-5-2007 04:27 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by aku_EnSeM at 11-5-2007 03:58 PM
tanye sket, hey... u don't have to know this. u r wasting ur time....



:@ :@ :@ :@

Saya teramat benci cikgu macam ini.........

saya kelas kelima...sebab saya tak ambil Bio. saya ambil acc + physics + kimia. kelas 1-4 adalah pure sains
pernah tanya cikgu benda, dia cakap kau kelas kelima, ajar pun buang masa saya,
saya ditampar cikgu kerana tanya apa itu pai (3.142....); tanya kenapa nombor itu. dia tak tau jawab dan naik marah lalu tampar saya.
satu lagi, saya pergi kelas pertama cari kawan saya cikgu kata kau mari sini buat apa? murid kelas ini adalah future doctor dan lawyer.........
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Post time 13-5-2007 12:39 AM | Show all posts
Originally posted by wei_loon5063 at 11-5-2007 04:27 PM



:@ :@ :@ :@

Saya teramat benci cikgu macam ini.........

saya kelas kelima...sebab saya tak ambil Bio. saya ambil acc + physics + kimia. kelas 1-4 adalah pure sains
pernah tanya c ...



waa .. kuang aja giler .. ..
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Post time 13-5-2007 12:41 AM | Show all posts
Originally posted by KTMan at 24-4-2007 12:53 AM
kalau confius..cari buku tidakabalas inorganic chemistry


bukan ke ni org chem ?
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Post time 13-5-2007 12:43 AM | Show all posts
aku tau tollen ni nak bezakan aldehyde ngan alketon je ..

erm .. kalau aku tak silap .. tollen reagent tu adalah reagent yang ada silver nitrate kot .. dalam bentuk ion .. and bile dia bertindak dengan aldehyde .. ion silver tu akan menjadi pepejal .. so terhasil la pepejal silver .. dats y ko nampak cermin ..
hahaha
aku dah 2 bulan tinggal mende neh ..
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Post time 13-5-2007 12:53 AM | Show all posts

Reply #15 wei_loon5063's post

apsal ko tak tampor balik cikgu ko tu?
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Post time 13-5-2007 01:26 AM | Show all posts
Originally posted by wei_loon5063 at 11-5-2007 16:27



:@ :@ :@ :@

Saya teramat benci cikgu macam ini.........

saya kelas kelima...sebab saya tak ambil Bio. saya ambil acc + physics + kimia. kelas 1-4 adalah pure sains
pernah tanya c ...


cam cikgu bio saya.:@  .tp bukan cam nie,dier tuh berlagak sket.... ..asyik complain + komen psl pelajar dier   sbb dier tuh,cikgu yg menguruskan peperiksaan SPM..byk tension kot ...
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