who are really the Malays in Ketuanan Melayu?

13Friday · Post time 9-4-2007 07:40 PM

It is the approach to the only God.

the two use different methods and style of preaching.

the Bible for the RC has more chapters.

SAlvation belongs to Jesus Christ,

So the most important thing is what is in our hearts when we worship the Trinty God.

wei_loon5063 · Post time 9-4-2007 09:33 PM

[quote]Originally posted by 13Friday at 9-4-2007 07:40 PM
So the most important thing is what is in our hearts when we worship the Trinty God.quote]

thank you
many christian i met forget about this... what is in their heart

rurouni_khairul · Post time 9-4-2007 09:58 PM

Originally posted by wei_loon5063 at 9-4-2007 09:33 PM
Originally posted by 13Friday at 9-4-2007 07:40 PM
So the most important thing is what is in our hearts when we worship the Trinty God.quote]

thank you
many christian i met forget about this ...

Jangan dilayan sangat chauvinist nie wei loon....die memang suka tengok Melayu Cina India bergaduh...Agent Provocateur le katekan...

wei_loon5063 · Post time 9-4-2007 10:15 PM

Originally posted by rurouni_khairul at 9-4-2007 09:58 PM

Jangan dilayan sangat chauvinist nie wei loon....die memang suka tengok Melayu Cina India bergaduh...Agent Provocateur le katekan...

chauvinist?? saya rasa dia selau cakap pasal judgement day je....

13Friday · Post time 10-4-2007 07:08 AM

How can anyone win when there is only ONE God.

The true God wins only.

13Friday · Post time 10-4-2007 01:16 PM

WLoon,

Muslims say God cannot die hence cannot accept the Crucifixion of Christ.  To Islamists, that would appear to be an insult to Islam where they say God never dies.  Yet Mohammed did refer to the Bible as true.  The whole scenario signify anti Christ.

Muslims also tend to condemn RC church with all those idols and yet the Islamists in their annual pilgrimage pay homage to the Black stone and the 360+ idol within the Ka'abah.  Who are guilty as idol worshippers.

Yes the protestant church would not have idols of God.  (a different approach)

The RC has many idols if they are really 'idol' in its definition.  Idol is an image of false god.

Can any image of the true God be idols?

If we have the true images of God and we worship them, are we worshipping idols?  Are the Cross and the Crucifix idols?

So what are the things that we worship in our hearts?

We may be standing before the true God with or without images, and with our lips we would say all sorts of praise but when our HEARTS are not with God, what is the outcome - FALSE worship. Some of us could be worshipping material things and money in our hearts.

wei_loon5063 · Post time 10-4-2007 02:06 PM

i agree with you in some point......... sometime an objects act as a symbol....
for remembrance and significant meaning.... not worshipping the object alone...

SONofODIN · Post time 12-4-2007 05:33 PM

Originally posted by wei_loon5063 at 23-3-2007 06:11 PM

wat deception do you mean??

wat i see is a balance.... jz tat some politicians over do it.....

balance is takin from non-bumis n give to the bumis...... tis is ketuanan melayu... ...

There are discriminations every where. Is better to live as a minority in Europe or America or Down Under.
They may not like immigrants but they don't massacre them. And also they don't take away your 30%. I have friends and relatives working or migrated overseas. They love it better over there.

wei_loon5063 · Post time 13-4-2007 02:04 AM

i know...........but how many non bumi can afford to migrate overseas????

even some non bumi already consider themself as MALSYSIAN...........

sad some bumi even often say u balik........

13Friday · Post time 13-4-2007 07:30 AM

unqualified people have become Bumiputra in Sabah by Project IC.

SONofODIN · Post time 13-4-2007 09:16 AM

Originally posted by wei_loon5063 at 13-4-2007 02:04 AM
i know...........but how many non bumi can afford to migrate overseas????

even some non bumi already consider themself as MALSYSIAN...........

sad some bumi even often say u balik........

A lot of us cannot afford to. If you are lucky you might get a job there. My cousin works in a Malaysian owned restaurant in US. She married a Mat salleh and got a PR. She loves it there, better quality of life.

My Malay friend got an Australlian PR. Will be moving there soon.

wei_loon5063 · Post time 13-4-2007 03:05 PM

i know........ but it is stricter than before.......

my friend..... a chinese...... once went to UK......... the officer thought she is from china... so starts a happy chat... bla bla bla..........

then when opened her passport and saw the word malaysia...... then the officer`s superior was call upon for questionnning...........

IF................ the bumis are not racist...... i also do not want to leave malaysia....

it is my home now

SONofODIN · Post time 13-4-2007 06:35 PM

Originally posted by wei_loon5063 at 13-4-2007 03:05 PM
i know........ but it is stricter than before.......

my friend..... a chinese...... once went to UK......... the officer thought she is from china... so starts a happy chat... bla bla bla..... ...

I love Malaysia too if without all the craps. But it will never be the day Malaysia without the craps.
So I will leave if I have the opportunity.

wei_loon5063 · Post time 13-4-2007 08:29 PM

Originally posted by SONofODIN at 13-4-2007 06:35 PM

I love Malaysia too if without all the craps. But it will never be the day Malaysia without the craps.
So I will leave if I have the opportunity.

me too........ but i have families and such... hard decisions too........

SONofODIN · Post time 14-4-2007 07:07 AM

Originally posted by wei_loon5063 at 13-4-2007 08:29 PM

me too........ but i have families and such... hard decisions too........

If I cannot leave, I'll make sure my daughter could leave when she grows up. No future for non Malay here lah.
I heard from my Indian friend the besi buruk business now needs 30% bumi. I think in future if you set up a Bak Kut Teh stall also need 30%.