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Another crisis in the process?

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Post time 29-3-2007 01:11 PM | Show all posts
Kalau betul nak perang,lebih baik sekarang drp lepas Iran dah 'lembik' kena sanction mcm Iraq dulu.:hmm:
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Post time 29-3-2007 01:24 PM | Show all posts
tulah strategi U.S & konco2nya.... kasi sanction pastu serang! Pengerusi OIC pun nasihatkan Iran supaya tunduk
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 Author| Post time 29-3-2007 01:53 PM | Show all posts
kalau nak perang cepat, Iran tak perlu membebaskan askar2 britain tu, sure blair akan melatah lagi teruk, tapi Iran ni baik, depa akan bebaskan askar2 brit dengan syarat britain mengaku salah menceroboh jer...
Iran: Britain must admit navy trespassed By SALAH NASRAWI, Associated Press Writer
1 hour, 11 minutes ago

RIYADH, Saudi Arabia -        Iran's foreign minister said Wednesday that Britain must admit that its 15 sailors and marines entered Iranian waters in order to resolve a standoff over their capture by the Mideast nation.

Manouchehr Mottaki's statement in an interview with The Associated Press came on a day of escalating tensions, highlighted by an Iranian video of the detained Britons that showed the only woman captive saying her group had "trespassed" in Iranian waters. Britain angrily denounced the video as unacceptable and froze most dealings with the Mideast nation.

The Iranian official also backed off a prediction that the female sailor, Faye Turney, could be freed Wednesday or Thursday, but said Tehran agreed to allow British officials to meet with the detainees.

Mottaki said that if the alleged entry into Iranian waters was a mistake "this can be solved. But they have to show that it was a mistake. That will help us to end this issue."

"Admitting the mistake will facilitate a solution to the problem," he said late Wednesday night in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia, where he was attending an Arab summit.

It was the first time that Iran has publicly suggested a way to resolve the crisis, but British acquiescence appeared unlikely as the country has been insisting since the crisis began that its troops were in Iraqi waters and released a GPS readout on Wednesday to back up the claim.

Britain's military said the readout proved the Royal Navy personnel were seized 1.7 nautical miles inside Iraqi waters. But in the interview, Mottaki said Iran had GPS devices from the British boats that showed they were in Iranian territory.

There was no immediate comment from the British to Mottaki's statement. A call to Britain's Foreign Office in London was not answered early Thursday.

British Prime Minister        Tony Blair's government announced it was freezing all dealings with Iran except to negotiate the release of its personnel, adding to a public exchange of sharp comments that helped fuel a spike in world oil prices.

At the        United Nations in New York, Britain asked the Security Council to support a call for the immediate release of detainees, saying in a statement they were operating in Iraqi waters under a mandate from the Security Council and at the request of        Iraq, according to council diplomats, speaking on condition of anonymity because the text was not released. The issue was expected to be debated Thursday.

Earlier Wednesday, a brief video of the captured Britons was shown on Iran's Arabic language satellite television station, Al-Alam.

One segment showed sailors and marines sitting in an Iranian boat in open waters immediately after their capture.

The video also displayed what appeared to be a handwritten letter from Turney, 26, to her family.

"I have written a letter to the Iranian people to apologize for us entering their waters," it said. The letter also asks Turney's parents in Britain to look after her 3-year-old daughter, Molly, and her husband, Adam.

The video showed Turney in checkered head scarf and her uniform eating with other sailors and marines. Later, wearing a white tunic and black head scarf, she sat in a room before floral curtains and smoked a cigarette.

Turney was the only detainee to be shown speaking, giving her name and saying she had been in the navy for nine years.

"Obviously we trespassed into their waters," Turney said at one point, her voice audible under a simultaneous Arabic translation. "They were very friendly and very hospitable, very thoughtful, nice people. They explained to us why we've been arrested. There was no harm, no aggression."

In backing away from predictions that Turney could be freed Wednesday or Thursday, Mottaki said in the interview that Iran will look into releasing her "as soon as possible."

He said earlier the reports of her imminent release were incorrect. "I was probably misquoted," he said.

Earlier in the day, Mottaki told the AP: "Today or tomorrow, the lady will be released." The Turkish television station, CNN-Turk, had also reported him saying Wednesday she would be freed "today or tomorrow."

But the talk of releasing Turney did little to calm British anger.

Before the video was broadcast, a spokesman for Blair said any showing of British personnel on TV would be a breach of the Geneva Conventions.

After the footage was aired, Foreign Secretary Margaret Beckett said she was "very concerned about these pictures and any indication of pressure on, or coercion of, our personnel. ... I am particularly disappointed that a private letter has been used in a way which can only add to the distress of the families."

The third Geneva Convention bans subjecting prisoners of war to intimidation, insults or "public curiosity." Because there is no armed conflict between Iran and Britain, the captives would not technically be classified as prisoners of war.

Blair told the House of Commons that "there was no justification whatever ... for their detention, it was completely unacceptable, wrong and illegal."

"We had hoped to see their immediate release; this has not happened. It is now time to ratchet up the diplomatic and international pressure in order to make sure the Iranian government understands its total isolation on this issue," he said.

Beckett said Britain would focus all its efforts on resolving the issue.

"We will, therefore, be imposing a freeze on all other official bilateral business with Iran until the situation is resolved. We will keep other aspects of our policy towards Iran under close review and continue to proceed carefully. But no one should be in any doubt about the seriousness with which we regard these events," she said.

The statement appeared to refer to diplomatic dealings rather than business relations, but Britain's Department of Trade said the country does not buy oil directly from Iran.

Oil prices rose by more than $1 a barrel Wednesday to a six-month high amid worries about the standoff, which came as the        U.S. Navy is carrying out its largest show of force in the Persian Gulf since the 2003 invasion of Iraq.

       President Bush discussed the 15 Britons with Blair over a secured video conference call Wednesday, White House deputy press secretary Dana Perino said. "The president fully backs Tony Blair and our allies in Britain," she said.

British officials have said the 15 Britons were taken captive after completing a search of a civilian ship near the mouth of the Shatt al-Arab waterway, which forms the border between Iran and Iraq.

In London, British military officials released new information about the seizure, saying satellite positioning readings showed the vessels were 1.7 nautical miles inside Iraqi waters.

Vice Adm. Charles Style gave the satellite coordinates as 29 degrees 50.36 minutes north latitude and 48 degrees 43.08 minutes east longitude. He said that position had been confirmed by an Indian-flagged merchant ship boarded by the sailors and marines.

He also told reporters the Iranians had provided a geographical position Sunday that he said was in Iraqi waters. By Tuesday, he said, Iranian officials had given a revised position 2 miles to the east, inside Iranian waters.

"It is hard to understand a legitimate reason for this change of coordinates," Style said.

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AP writers Nasser Karimi in Tehran, Iran, Lee Keath in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia, and Edith M. Lederer at the United Nations contributed to this report

[ Last edited by  windof at 29-3-2007 01:58 PM ]
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Post time 29-3-2007 02:07 PM | Show all posts
What do you mean "in the process"??  The whole world knows this is what they've been planning all along... the yanks are sore losers and ever since Shah Reza Pahlevi been kicked out and the few yanks kept by the Iranians for 440 days case they've been sulking ever since...
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Post time 29-3-2007 05:00 PM | Show all posts

Reply #24 mat_toro's post

Its all about all the oil in Persia, my fren...
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Post time 29-3-2007 05:10 PM | Show all posts

Reply #25 IceMallet's post

Yep... Thats why they needed the puppet dictator Pahlevi back then... now they use the slogan axis of evil, war on terror etc...
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Post time 29-3-2007 05:32 PM | Show all posts
Hopefully, this predicted April war wont effect us all
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Post time 29-3-2007 06:16 PM | Show all posts
The US  is just too worried of a nuclear Iran. Thus, those sites are the primary targets. War...maybe not. But deep interdiction strikes on those sites are a real possibility. With those sites damaged, and the UN sanction imposed, any further development would be halted.

[ Last edited by  RainbowSix at 29-3-2007 06:17 PM ]
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Post time 29-3-2007 06:22 PM | Show all posts

Reply #27 IceMallet's post

It will affect us. Let's see, we'll have petrol prices as expensive as caviar, and the bottom will fall out of the world stock markets. But given Bush has not enough support, one suspects he will try to wage a 'black' war. That means navy seals and stealth airstrikes.
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Post time 29-3-2007 08:16 PM | Show all posts

Reply #26 mat_toro's post

no lah bro... we hv a new slogan for US... :bgrin:

BOMB Afghanistan NOW!!!
BOMB Iraq NOW!!!
BOMB Iran NOW!!!
BOMB Disneyland NOW!!!
BOMB Everything!!!
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Post time 29-3-2007 08:54 PM | Show all posts

Reply #30 standupper's post

As in Borat, during the rodeo scene:

Borat, "We support your war OF terror!
May the United States kill every single terrorist!
May Bush drink the blood of every single man, woman and child of Iraq!"

Seriously stupid but hilarious.
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Post time 29-3-2007 09:24 PM | Show all posts
The people in America are not willing to give up the luxurious lifestyle and quality standard of life they are now enjoying in their country...

So, they need more oil.   Attacking Iran Nuclear site is the best option considering the fact that Middle east is one of the bredding ground of deadly terrorist.
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Post time 29-3-2007 09:29 PM | Show all posts

Reply #32 silentnoise's post

Here comes the 'Mr. Genius'...

The Klu Klux Klan is also not willing to give-up their luxurious lifestyle...because...everyone else isnt white....

[ Last edited by  RainbowSix at 29-3-2007 09:31 PM ]
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Post time 29-3-2007 10:34 PM | Show all posts
why do you people want to side a country that supports terrorists who killed so many muslims in iraq?
why side a country who violated iraqis waters?

let me tell you how it will all play out. the end game will be, the US, whether neocon or liberal controlled will nuke iran or any other terrorists state out there when the line is crossed. Muslims will ultimately lose even if US or Israel is nuked by terrorists. and those msian soldiers in lebanon better watch out.
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Post time 29-3-2007 10:36 PM | Show all posts

Reply #33 RainbowSix's post

Ah..Okay. Your the man..
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Post time 30-3-2007 11:30 AM | Show all posts
Originally posted by Debmey at 29-3-2007 10:34 PM
why do you people want to side a country that supports terrorists who killed so many muslims in iraq?
why side a country who violated iraqis waters?

let me tell you how it will all play out. the end game will be, the US, whether neocon or liberal controlled will nuke iran or any other terrorists state out there when the line is crossed. Muslims will ultimately lose even if US or Israel is nuked by terrorists. and those msian soldiers in lebanon better watch out.. ...


why do you kiasu lapdog want to side a country that supports zionist terrorists who killed so many people (not just muslims) around the world?
why side a country who violated everyone's waters?

let me tell you how it will all play out. the end game will be, the US, whether neocon or liberal controlled will nuke iran or any other sovereign state out there when they do not kowtow to the neocons. Everyone (including the US & it's zionist bed partner) will ultimately lose when US or Israel nukes everyone. and all zionist & white america around the world better watch out.

Muahahahahahaha..!!!!!
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Post time 30-3-2007 11:52 AM | Show all posts
US and israel will only attack teh bad guys, not the good.
You will only have to worry if you are a bad guy.

Remember Jordan? They attacked Israel in 48 and 67 and got whacked. They stayed out of the fight in 73 and had no worries.

Be a good boy and stop supporting terrorists, then you will have peace.
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Post time 30-3-2007 12:00 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by Debmey at 30-3-2007 11:52 AM
US and israel will only attack teh bad guys, not the good.
You will only have to worry if you are a bad guy.

Remember Jordan? They attacked Israel in 48 and 67 and got whacked. They stayed out of the fight in 73 and had no worries.

Be a good boy and stop supporting terrorists, then you will have peace....


US and israel will only attack if you do not kowtow to them.  Dont matter if you're good or bad.
You will only have to worry if you are a not American or a Zionist.

Remember Zionist incursion to Lebanon? They attacked Lebanon twice and got whacked. They stayed out of the fight now and a few zionist generals had to resign plus their president is a rapist.

Be a good boy and kowtow to America and the zionists, then if you're lucky they wont attack you.


Ha! Ha!
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Post time 30-3-2007 12:15 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by Debmey at 30-3-2007 11:52 AM
US and israel will only attack teh bad guys, not the good.
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bad guys??? wrkahakhakhakhakhahkakhh
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Post time 30-3-2007 12:56 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by mat_toro at 30-3-2007 12:00 PM


US and israel will only attack if you do not kowtow to them.  Dont matter if you're good or bad.
You will only have to worry if you are a not American or a Zionist.

Remember Zionist incur ...



We never kowtow to Americans. Rememeber michael fay?

You all however have kowtow to the Arabs 5 times a day. I know you hardly do so yourself but thats what yu are suppose to do.

Israel got whacked in Lebanon? I thought it was the arabs who got whacked every time. Isreali casualties are so small comapred to the terrorists.
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