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HAMAS : Pesanan Buat Umat Islam di Malaysia

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gennosukesama This user has been deleted
Post time 9-6-2006 01:02 PM | Show all posts
kita Islam Wajib menyokong saudara kita. takkan orang Islam dianiaya kita masih buat tak tahu. ORang Islam dianiaya. kalao askar kafir menderita sebab kawan2 dia dibunuh, thats bullshit. depa mmg suka tembak orang Islam. kalo tembak pun bukan orang label pengganas cam orang islam. kira tak salah mengambil nyawa orang Islam. harap mr bean mempunyai pendirian bukan di atas pagar

http://www.guardian.co.uk/israel ... 2C1643573%2C00.html

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gennosukesama This user has been deleted
Post time 9-6-2006 01:04 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by jerai at 9-6-2006 11:09 AM




macam mana pula ariel sharon membunuh pelarian disabra dan shatila,


sedih sebab mr bean tak kisah ini, orang yang dianiaya je yagn dikisahkan.
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gennosukesama This user has been deleted
Post time 9-6-2006 01:05 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by jerai at 9-6-2006 11:15 AM




Ingat lagi tak zaman jepun dulu ada melayu keje ngan jepun,
bagi matlumat tentang penentangan orang melayu pada tentera jepun,
so orang macam ni apa yang patut kita panggil,
mungkin dia  ...


betul tuh. kempetai kan? cam cerita sarjan hassan.
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Post time 9-6-2006 04:46 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by jerai at 6/8/06 07:09 PM




macam mana pula ariel sharon membunuh pelarian disabra dan shatila,


that is wrong too. the idea is, you can't justify something wrong that you do by something wrong that your opponent does.
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Post time 9-6-2006 04:58 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by gennosukesama at 6/8/06 09:04 PM


sedih sebab mr bean tak kisah ini, orang yang dianiaya je yagn dikisahkan.


not true. this is how i look at it. it's not just Israel vs. Palestine, though in general, that's what the conflict is. I see at least 6 groups of people involved.

1) Palestinian innocent civilians (who don't participate in militants)
2) Israeli innocent civilians (who don't participate in militants)
3) Israeli military
4) Palestinian military
5) Palestinian militants
6) Israeli militants

i really care about the first two groups. neither should be harmed by anybody. there's no justification for any murder of any of member of the two groups.
however groups 3-6 carry out their duties should not affect the right of groups 1-2 to live safely.

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Post time 9-6-2006 05:03 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by gennosukesama at 6/8/06 09:02 PM
kita Islam Wajib menyokong saudara kita.


which part of the Book says that? if Abu (a muslim) commits a crime against Ah Seng (a non muslim), we should support Abu, because he's our brother?
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gennosukesama This user has been deleted
Post time 12-6-2006 11:51 AM | Show all posts
which part of the Book says that? if Abu (a muslim) commits a crime against Ah Seng (a non muslim), we should support Abu, because he's our brother? ---bean

tak payah part of book la...pakai common sense je. misal ada salah sorang ahli keluarga orang kapir (tak yah le ah seng..) menganiaya orang salah sorang Ahli keluarga orang Islam, pastu ada salah sorang ahli keluarga orang islam tersebut membalas kerana tertekan, takkan kita nak sokong keluarga orang kafir tu. aparaa...

simple je bean.
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Post time 12-6-2006 12:00 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by gennosukesama at 6/11/06 07:51 PM
tak payah part of book la...pakai common sense je. misal ada salah sorang ahli keluarga orang kapir (tak yah le ah seng..) menganiaya orang salah sorang Ahli keluarga orang Islam, pastu ada salah sorang ahli keluarga orang islam tersebut membalas kerana tertekan, takkan kita nak sokong keluarga orang kafir tu. aparaa...


you said earlier that kite umat Islam wajib menyokong saudara kite. it's seem unconditional, that no matter what, we have to support saudara seIslam. what if memang sah orang Islam tu yang buat jahat terhadap orang bukan Islam? what if memang takde sebab munasabah langsung untuk berbuat demikian? adakah kite  mesti wajib menyokong saudara tersebut? Please answer this. I want to see if it's really unconditional.

and for the scenario that you gave, ahli keluarga orang Islam tu balas cammana? like, sape yang jadi mangsa dia? ahli keluarga orang kafir tu atau orang yang bertanggungjawap tu?

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Post time 12-6-2006 12:03 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by gennosukesama at 6/11/06 07:51 PM
tersebut membalas kerana tertekan


by the way, that's a clear sign of irrational action, balas kerana tertekan, not necessarily because it's the right thing to do.
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gennosukesama This user has been deleted
Post time 12-6-2006 12:07 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by BeanDiesel at 12-6-2006 12:00 PM


you said earlier that kite umat Islam wajib menyokong saudara kite. it's seem unconditional, that no matter what, we have to support saudara seIslam. what if memang sah orang Islam tu yang buat ...


sorrila ya. aku bukannya apa,  melalui post2 ko yang lain, ko ni nampak lebih memihak kepada yahudi dan amerika. tak yah detail sangat pasal keluarga tadi tu. yang aku nak tekankan, kita Islam bersaudara, memang tak sokong kalau yang membalas dengan keganasan tapi aku tetap berharap mereka akan mendapat keamananan.

aku takde masa nak terang panjang lebar, cuma aku berharap seiapa saja lebih memntingkan persaudaraan. (lain kali aku tambah bila free, bean.)
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Post time 12-6-2006 01:00 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by gennosukesama at 12-6-2006 12:07 PM


sorrila ya. aku bukannya apa,  melalui post2 ko yang lain, ko ni nampak lebih memihak kepada yahudi dan amerika. tak yah detail sangat pasal keluarga tadi tu. yang aku nak tekankan, kita Islam  ...


Cakap memang senang. Tong kosong memang bunyi kuat. Apa orang Islam dah buat nak majukan ekonomi Islam???
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gennosukesama This user has been deleted
Post time 13-6-2006 12:24 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by BatuApi at 12-6-2006 01:00 PM


Cakap memang senang. Tong kosong memang bunyi kuat. Apa orang Islam dah buat nak majukan ekonomi Islam???


ye la sekurang-kurangnya ko doa. pastu ko pulak (kecuali ko kapir), apa yang ko dah buat?
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Post time 13-6-2006 02:59 PM | Show all posts
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060 ... lestinians_shootout

fatah lawan hamas. sape nak sokong? dedua Islam. :hmm:
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Post time 13-6-2006 11:34 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by syawall25 at 27-5-2006 05:20 PM
dalam surah fatihah dua golongan yang Allah sebut "bukan jalan orang2 yang dimurkai (yahudi) dan bukan jalan org2 yang sesat (nasrani)....


Salam syawal, nak tanya sikit (maaf saya tertinggal keretapi)

Siapa yang bubuh yahudi & nasrani dalam bracket terjemahan surah Al-Fatihah tu ?

As an extension to the question, macamana dengan agama2 sesat yang lain e.g. hindu, buddha ?

:tq:
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Post time 16-6-2006 10:59 AM | Show all posts
Di kala kita asyik dengan Piala Dunia ... saudara kita di Palestin dibunuh !




Mangsa terbaru serangan rejim Zionis pada Selasa 13/06/06) ang membunuh 11 rakyat Palestin termasuk 3 kanak2, 6 dewasa dan 2 pejuang Jihad Islami.




Jenazah Sabrine Ghalia(14 tahun), kanan, bersama adiknya, Haitham, 1 tahun dan Hanidi yang masih berusia 18 bulan sebelum dikebumikan di utara Jalur Gaza di Beit Lahiya, pada Sabtu 10/06/06.




Huda Ghalia (tengah) ditenangkan oleh saudara mara semasa jenazah ibubapa dan adik beradiknya dikebumikan di utara Jalur Gaza. Mereka antara mangsa terbaru rejim Zionis ."


Masukkan derma anda ke dalam akaun:
Pertubuhan Jamaah Islah Malaysia
Bank Islam Malaysia Berhad
Nombor akaun: 12113010005797
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Aman Palestin Berhad
Bank Islam Malaysia Berhad
Nombor akaun: 12029010047880
Maybank Malaysia Berhad
Nombor akaun: 562263010787
Pertanyaan : 03-89267019

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Post time 23-6-2006 04:05 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by BeanDiesel at 13-6-2006 02:59 PM
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060 ... lestinians_shootout

fatah lawan hamas. sape nak sokong? dedua Islam. :hmm:



sokong militans.orait.tak kira militans dari fatah atau hamas.Bukan military.

*biasalah ramai manusia bebal terpengaruh dgn word 'militans' yg selalu dicop oleh barat.

antiQue ~ unnecessary words edited

[ Last edited by  antiQue at 23-6-2006 05:15 PM ]
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Lamia This user has been deleted
Post time 24-6-2006 01:06 PM | Show all posts

Reply #97 skywalker's post

TQ for d info skywalker. :tq:Saya setuju sangat dgn semua pendapat anda mengenai perjuangan Hamas, rakyat palestine umumnya. Selagi kita tak berada di tempat mereka, kita tak akan tahu betapa sengsaranya hidup mereka yg berjuang sejak sekian lama utk bumi Qudus tu.:cry: Marilah bersama-sama menderma utk tabung Palestine:pray:
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Post time 24-6-2006 01:33 PM | Show all posts
I guess we can't even blame the Serb regime for killing so many bosnians, since kite tak berada di tempat mereka. Or is it only applicable when it favors Muslims? :hmm: Think about it.
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Post time 27-6-2006 11:58 AM | Show all posts
setahu aku..setiap lelaki israel kat palestine sekarang nih wajib ikuti national service. national service yg dema ikut lain dgn kita sebab dema punya mmg military based. kau nak tau sapa amik bluprint national servise dema? singapore.

so kalo mereka dah ikut, itu bermakna mereka bukan civillians lagik, tapi mereka sudah jadik separa militan.

kau cuba pikir, tgh lepak ngan famili askar israel masuk umah pecah2kan tv, amik makanan dan pukul bapak kau. kau tak bengang ker? lepas tuh, insiden pompuan palestine kene cabul/rogol/ ngan askkar israel dah jadik menda biasa. israel anggap, org lain hartanya halal bagik dema, kita nih yg non israel taraf sama mcm binatang pada dema. aku tak buat cerita. member2 aku ada 2,3 org budak palestine. ustaz aku pon org palestine. dia siap cerita mcmmana budak2 muda, dlm 15, 16 tahun belasah askar israel sebab cabul kakak dema. aku pernah tgk video, mmg kuasa Allah la, seorang askar israel kejar budak yahudi, lepas tuh budak tuh larik lintang pukang..ada la member dia nyuruk2 belakang batu..lastik kat askar tuh, tapi yg peliknya, batu yg dihujani tuh, mcm hasil balingan 5,6 org. lintang pukang askar tuh larik. askar tu siap pakai senapang canggih2 lagik. ada video makcik kene rifle butt ngan askar israel, lepas tuh anak2 dia sumer pompuan pertahankan emak dema..cukup menyayat hati...mengalir air mata tgk... selagik akita tak berada di tempat dema, kita tak leh cakap. kita kene SOKONG MEREKA..sebab mereka mempertahankan batul muqaddis...cara mereka? bagik kat Allah judge..kita tak tahu...sebab kita nih..pegang lastik sebelah dema pon kita tak pernah.
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