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Trinity is optionally said as god's plan, nobody can goes to father's place without son. God is dead if he does really have no spirit, therefore god has really his spirit. That's similar with man, man will go to either heaven or hell after his blooded body "switched off" around the earth. That son claims that he is way, truth and life, he comes to the earth for save everybody from delivery.
Catholic Church isn't individually a church for Roman "Catholicism" as claimed, it's "Worldwide" Church before every church being seperated. Those Greeks concern that Catholic Church has far away from earlier mode that while Christ be a preacher, they call their own church as Orthodox Church. Trinity is based in more than Roman faith, that's why nobody is able to goes father's place without son.
Christ re-alives again after 3 days after his death, he proofs that he is god. 40 days later, Christ ascends to heaven and seated at beside god. Both spirits of god and Christ are holy spirit, that's Holy Trinity God. |
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God and Jesus is Holy & Spirit = Holy Spirit. |
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IN THE NAME OF THE FATHER AND OF THE SON AND OF THE HOLY SPIRIT
HERE I AM AGAIN TO SHARE THE TRUTH OF GOD LOVE.
Originally posted by Truth.8 at 13-2-2006 10:50 PM
God and Jesus is Holy & Spirit = Holy Spirit.
Hey T. 8,
You said 揋od and Jesus is Holy & Spirit = Holy Spirit. |
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xiaofeng This user has been deleted
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I VERY AGREE ON WONG ANN YONG,
I ALSO HAVE THE SAME OPINION AS WONG. MARTIN LUTHER HAD ALREADY FOUND OUT THE PROBLEM
THOUGH, DURING THOSE TIME, POLITICS AND RELIGION ALREADY BEING CORRUPTED. HOW CAN WE FREE FROM SIN?CONFESS TO PRIEST BY BUYING THE WAT U CALL CONFESSION "PAPER"?
WE NEED TO REFORMED THE CHURCH!!THE PURPOSE OF MARTIN LUTHER TO HAVE REVOLUTION IN
REFORMATION IS THAT NOT TO SPLIT BUT TO IMPROVE THE CHURCH,GO BACK TO THE BIBLE, THE WORD OF GOD. HE DUN WANNA SPLIT BUT LEFT HIM NO CHOICE TO RUNAWAY FROM HOME. |
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Originally posted by xiaofeng at 2-4-2006 06:11 PM
I VERY AGREE ON WONG ANN YONG,
I ALSO HAVE THE SAME OPINION AS WONG. MARTIN LUTHER HAD ALREADY FOUND OUT THE PROBLEM
THOUGH, DURING THOSE TIME, POLITICS AND RELIGION ALREADY BEING CORRUPTED. HOW ...
Thanks to lord, authority of confession is at Christ. Christ forgives our sins evenly we're really aware and confess from sins, he loves us all |
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wingcross This user has been deleted
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catholic and christian is different.
Catholic is catholic and christian is christian.
They have differnt doctrines. If you have time search the web for different denominations.
Nowadays most denomination believed in Trinity. they are holding fast to the Nicene Creed which started all this trinity issues. They say if you dun believe in trinity, then you are a heretic.
In the old times, might be burned as the stake if we announced out.
Who initiated the nicene creed ? A pagan worshipper. He only accepted christ or messiah when he was about to die. His name is Constantine.
anyway it jus a term. There are others, the Believers from the denomination Messianic Jews or the Nazarenese who believed Jesus didnt come to abolished the law or Torah but to fullfil it as well.
Well they followed Torah. |
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wingcross This user has been deleted
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The Jehovah Witness claimed themselves as christians as well but they dun believed in Trinity.
The Mormons also call themselves a christians but they emphasised the teachings by the prophet Joseph. |
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xiaofeng This user has been deleted
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I HEARD SEVENTH DAY ADVENTIST TRY TO GET BACK TO THE BIBLE AS THEY REALIZE THEY'RE WRONG INTERPRET THE WORD OF GOD. PRAISE THE LORD. THEY STARTING TO ACCEPT THE REFORM THEOLOGY AS A BASIS. BUT STILL NEED SOME TIME I GUESS... |
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Originally posted by Wong Onn Yong at 10-2-2006 01:57 AM
I belief in Holy Trinity God not Mary, it's not so complicated. However, Mary isn't a goddess. That's all ff:
yes i agree... it's certainly going nowhere..... |
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i would think that it is pretty obvious.... but apparently not to some people.... catholics are christians... there is no difference.... & there is no difference because catholics believe in jesus christ & everything that the Lord stands for... therefore they are christians. |
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wingcross This user has been deleted
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Originally posted by Kazuo at 15-4-2006 06:07 AM
i would think that it is pretty obvious.... but apparently not to some people.... catholics are christians... there is no difference.... & there is no difference because catholics believe in j ...
neh if you are prostestant, you can be called as a christians.
catholics are called catholics. try asking a catholics to cormfirm.
anyway all this is just a terms. Have you heard of Messianic Judaism ? They dun call them a christians, even they are a follower of Yeshua. |
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Sori kuarkan balik thread lama... tp aku baru nak bertanya tentang perbezaan antara Catholic dan Christian... tengok kat sini dah ada... maka aku pun nak kan perjelasan jugak melalui perbincangan panjang yg dah aku baca forumers kat thread ni...
It seems to me that being a Catholic is different from being a Christian.. rite? coz Catholic is Catholic and Christian is Christian. Mcm wingcross bagitau tu.
Tapi Casejulia bagitau : catholic is one of the christian section!
So.. adakah semua ni hanya perbezaan pendapat aje? |
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IN THE NAME OF THE FATHER AND OF THE SON AND OF THE HOLY SPIRIT
HERE I AM AGAIN TO SHARE THE TRUTH OF GOD LOVE.
From xiaofeng
Post : 29
I HEARD SEVENTH DAY ADVENTIST TRY TO GET BACK TO THE BIBLE AS THEY REALIZE THEY'RE WRONG INTERPRET THE WORD OF GOD. PRAISE THE LORD. THEY STARTING TO ACCEPT THE REFORM THEOLOGY AS A BASIS. BUT STILL NEED SOME TIME I GUESS...
My respond:
My dear friends |
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Originally posted by Sinner at 22-8-2006 03:45
Sori kuarkan balik thread lama... tp aku baru nak bertanya tentang perbezaan antara Catholic dan Christian... tengok kat sini dah ada... maka aku pun nak kan perjelasan jugak melalui perbincangan p ...
from what i read from the book "Kingdom of the Cult" if one religion does not reject the Biblical doctrin of the Trinity and the deity of Christ, it still called Christian. but if one religion reject the Biblical doctrin of the Trinity and the deity of Christ, it is called non-Christian. Such as the Jehova witnesses and Mormons are non-christian |
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Originally posted by wingcross at 16-4-2006 20:43
neh if you are prostestant, you can be called as a christians.
catholics are called catholics. try asking a catholics to cormfirm.
anyway all this is just a terms. Have you heard of Mess ...
Im not suprised about this. Last time i've met a guy friend, i saw that he is wearing a pendant 'cross' . i asked if he was a christian, He said "No". I'm a bit confuse, so i ask him again "What is that 'cross' means." He said he is 'catholic'. i told him that Catholic is Christian, but he said No! i told him again that we worship the same Jesus Christ, well he agreed about this.
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orion This user has been deleted
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church to much.....Bible Diffren
catholic..........
ada anglican.............................cathtolic punya net
protestan......prestyberian...lutheran.....calvari......Basel.....
di bawah lagi ada mini church...........PSA entah apa ni........GPI.......SIB......
BIbel...........protestan 66 buku......
.................catholic....100 buku .... kandungan tak sama........
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keprcayaan sama hampir sama ...saya rasa kita patut review balik kandungan alkitab kita....sejak akhir2 banya scrol dijumpai sinaiticus bible 2007 baru boleh baca hheheheh........judas gospel....thomas gospel apa hal ni ........kepada ahli2 gereja cubalah buka minda.....kepada catholic....cuba tanya mana tu bible original.....................jgn malu-2
satu lagi........ahli catholic ni kalau buat kebaktian di rumah2....apahal dgn patung2 buatan manusiawi tu.kita sembah Allah...bukan .....patung tu le........jgan
Saya ni kristian juga tapi.........belum diiktiraf Baptize....... |
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tiM This user has been deleted
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Originally posted by orion at 21-10-2006 02:50 PM
catholic..........
ada anglican.............................cathtolic punya net
protestan......prestyberian...lutheran.....calvari......Basel.....
di bawah lagi ada mini church...........PSA ent ...
Kenapa ana tak dibaptis??? kerana tunggu kes Lena joy kerr? hihihihih!:nerd:
Adakah ko sama mashab dengan Truth8?.... Dalam mycard masih tertulis Islam, gitu?
Jgn segan utk konsing sikit soal pribadi di sini....
Catholic ada 100 buku? saya ingat 73 buku7 jerrr.. I pun dah lama tak buka Bible.. hihihih! Ada mini Biblepun hanya terkandung Perjanjian baru. full version ntah tinggal mana dah! Mungkin kat kampong kot! |
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Originally posted by tiM at 23-10-2006 05:24 PM
Kenapa ana tak dibaptis??? kerana tunggu kes Lena joy kerr? hihihihih!:nerd:
Adakah ko sama mashab dengan Truth8?.... Dalam mycard masih tertulis Islam, gitu?
Jgn segan utk konsing sikit soal ...
Lain daripada Bible, Catholic juga ada Apocrypha. Bagi mereka, Apocrypha merupakan lanjutan bagi Old Testment Bible. |
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