The spirit squeezed him more tightly. Is this how angel do that??

Truth.8

Who exactly was Mohammed? Was he a prophet?

click here :  http://thespiritofislam.com/text/Q06.html

also click here : http://www.prophetofdoom.net/chapter7.html



Happy reading:nerd:

[ Last edited by Truth.8 on 16-12-2004 at 03:25 PM ]

Originally posted by Truth.8 at 2004-12-9 04:50 PM:
Who exactly was Mohammed? Was he a prophet?

click here :  http://thespiritofislam.com/text/Q06.html

That was how God meant it to be for Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him). What is most important is that what  was revealed remained intact and will remain intact. The revelation to Moses and Jesus, unfortunately,  never remained intact and the original is gone forever without a trace.

In the Name of Allah, the Beneficent, the Merciful


"By the morning hours

And by the night when it is stillest,

Thy Lord hath neither forsaken thee nor doth He hate thee,

And verily the Last will be better for thee

than the First.

And verily thy Lord will give unto thee so that

thou wilt be content.

Did He not find thee an orphan and protect thee?

Did He not find thee wandering and guide thee?

Did He not find thee destitute and enrich thee?

Therefore the orphan oppress not,

Therefore the beggar drive not away,

And as for thy Lord's blessing, declare it."

(Qur'an: xciii.1-11)



"And the Jews say the Christians follow nothing (true), and the Christians say the Jews follow nothing (true); yet both are readers of the Scripture. Even thus speak those who know not. Allah will judge between them on the Day of Resurrection concerning that wherein they differ."


(Qur'an ii 113)



"If all mankind and all invisible beings would come together with a view to producing the like of this book Al-Qur抋n, they could never produce its like even though they were to exert all their strength in aiding one another."


(Qur'an xvii. 88)


Happy reading:

http://www.geocities.com/islamicmessage/lopm/chptr10.htm

[ Last edited by KENNKID on 9-12-2004 at 06:18 PM ]

Truth.8

how come that spirit squeeze him??? If angel appeared infront of u, do u think it will squeez u or me?? Of course Angel will say "Don't fear I am Gaberiel"

This spirit appeared in Cave and what strange way giving relevation.


remain me about the movie Jennie in bottle";)

Sephiroth

Hmmm ... :hmm: Must admit, I find the squeezing part a bit weird also.

Gabriel approach all others and spoke to them, reducing their fears first before delivering the message. Why is it that Gabriel choose to almost squeeze the life out of Muhammad before delivering the message? Odd approach.

There is one possibility - to show that Muhammad indeed cannot read. But then again, it is useless since everyone in Mecca knows that. :hmm:

snipersnake

Originally posted by Truth.8 at 9-12-2004 12:22 AM:
how come that spirit squeeze him??? If angel appeared infront of u, do u think it will squeez u or me?? Of course Angel will say "Don't fear I am Gaberiel"

This spirit appeared in Cave ...

okay its like this:

muhammad was very afraid when he met gabriel so by hugging him gabriel managed to ease him up a little bit.

then that was the time god revealed his revelation( a tiny part of the quran to him) humans have been known to learn quickly under preassure.

hope this clarifies. :lebai:

Sephiroth

by snipersnake

muhammad was very afraid when he met gabriel so by hugging him gabriel managed to ease him up a little bit.

Muhammad RAN to his wife, scared out of his wits and told her that he maybe possessed.

Exactly which part of above does it look like that Muhammad has ease up? :stp:

Truth.8

Originally posted by Sephiroth at  08:13 AM:
Hmmm ...  Must admit, I find the squeezing part a bit weird also.

Gabriel approach all others and spoke to them, reducing their fears first before delivering the message. Why is it that Gabriel choose to almost squeeze the life out of Muhammad before delivering the message? Odd approach.

There is one possibility - to show that Muhammad indeed cannot read. But then again, it is useless since everyone in Mecca knows that.

...

thats because that spirit is not angel but a jin /or satan impersonate as angel. The Bible says " even satan comes in as angel of light"

why must gives relevation in that dark cave?? normaly in dark cave not good spirit  live but bad one.

Truth.8

Originally posted by snipersnake at  09:27 AM:


okay its like this:

muhammad was very afraid when he met gabriel so by hugging him gabriel managed to ease him up a little bit.

then that was the time god revealed his revelation( a tiny  ...

why the angel says " don't fear  i am gariel? why must squeez him.

sorry, its not angel

muhammad was very afraid when he met gabriel so by hugging him gabriel managed to ease him up a little bit.

if this was in the bible...and kennkid saw it...he would say that the bible promote porno...

Debmey

I think it was onbiously demon possession for Mohamaed.
These demons put fear into people and thats why Muhamad had suicidal thots for two years after that.

Nope, Jabril wasn't an angel, it was a demon and teh subsequent words of Mo were Saranic verses.

peace.

kid

Originally posted by Debmey at 10-12-2004 01:25 PM:
I think it was onbiously demon possession for Mohamaed.
These demons put fear into people and thats why Muhamad had suicidal thots for two years after that.

Nope, Jabril wasn't an angel, it wa ...

Yeah it made you all Islam-critics confuse each other because your source also told different things, in short you've been deceived because you only listened to anti-Islam propaganda without bother to listen from us... the real Muslim.

Some say Gabriel, some say not, and now you say demon... afterall you have no idea of what what was all about because you already fed from wrong hand, such a pity to see people like you who let yourselves lost.

[ Last edited by kid on 10-12-2004 at 04:44 PM ]

snipersnake

Originally posted by Sephiroth at 9-12-2004 05:49 PM:
by snipersnake

muhammad was very afraid when he met gabriel so by hugging him gabriel managed to ease him up a little bit.

Muhammad RAN to his wife, scared out of his wits and told h ...

okay..by hugging him..at least he wouldnt run away rite

snipersnake

Originally posted by Truth.8 at 9-12-2004 06:01 PM:



thats because that spirit is not angel but a jin /or satan impersonate as angel. The Bible says " even satan comes in as angel of light"

why must gives relevation in that dark c ...

no, the devil cant impersonate the angels and the prophet..besides, look at the message..read in the name of thy god... devil will never say this

snipersnake

Originally posted by Debmey at 9-12-2004 07:25 PM:
I think it was onbiously demon possession for Mohamaed.
These demons put fear into people and thats why Muhamad had suicidal thots for two years after that.

Nope, Jabril wasn't an angel, it wa ...

no..muhammad never once in his life had suicidal tendeciies..he went home..hid under his rug..his wife siti khadijah calmed him down..when he told her what happened, she immediately smiled and proclaimed the syahadah in front of him making her to be the first human to embrace islam. that gave him back his stregth and confidence..as for in the cave..it was jibrail..a devil will never glorify the name of god.

kid

Originally posted by snipersnake at 10-12-2004 04:41 PM:

a devil will never glorify the name of god.

Exactly!

Truth.8

Originally posted by kid at  04:50 PM:


Exactly!

.....but allah??? who ??? Jews and Peoples of the Book did not endorsed allah god name.

kyas

allah means what in arabic bible

Originally posted by Truth.8 at 10-12-2004 04:52 PM:



.....but allah??? who ??? Jews and Peoples of the Book did not endorsed allah god name.

Alah, if you do not accept the Quran, Mohammad and Allah, then why do you need to identify yourself as People of the Book as mentioned in Quran?

Menda la lu...

snipersnake

Originally posted by Truth.8 at 9-12-2004 10:52 PM:



.....but allah??? who ??? Jews and Peoples of the Book did not endorsed allah god name.

thats the thing..thats why Allah sent quran to muhammad rather then continuing his revelation on the old and new stetament.. :ah:

Debmey

  
We all think Jabril was a demon in disguise as an angel.
How can it be impossible when Jesus already told us in the Bible to be careful?

Mohamaed did have suicidal tendencies, even Muslims schoirlars have to admit it.
www.answering-islam.org/Silas/demons.htm