Sperms are produced in chest not testicle ! According to Quran....

sam1528

prototaip posted on 30-1-2013 04:44 PM
Yang kamu tu terdesak sangat nak menipu ni kenapa? Kamu sendiri yg kata sperm is part of semen tib ...

Apa daa tambi. Kalo nak temberang pun 'pro' lah sikit.

Yang kamu tu terdesak sangat nak menipu ni kenapa? Kamu sendiri yg kata sperm is part of semen tiba2 kamu kata abang yang tulis sperm is part of semen.Mari abang save post no #144 kamu tu.Nampak tulisan bergaris warna merah dekat tulisan kamu tu?Kamu ni memang takde masa depan ke nak mengulang2 benda yg sama?Abang dah ada kerja,pangkat tinggi lagi.Abang takde masalah buang masa kat sini.Ehem.....sedap betul duduk atas kerusi empuk dalam bilik aircond ni sambil layan internet.

Haa , apa isu ko? Kan dah kata , pi balik pada pos#133 yg ko catat spt berikut :

Semen is not sperm.But semen contains sperm.If semen does not contain sperm, it cannot be called semen at all!!!That is so simple to understand this scientific concept, tambi!!!

Rujuk balik pos#157 aku ,

In your post#133 , you stated '..Semen is not sperm.But semen contains sperm..'. If semen contain sperm , isn't it right to paraphrase that sperm is part of semen? Who is the snake now? I believe we should call the fireman to attend to you. Agree?

Tau apa makna 'paraphrase'? Ko tak malu ke yg ko ni didedahkan  membohong? Oh patut pun , ko ni atheis mana tau salah betul dlm etika moral. Atheis macam ko ni , kalo ko dapat bohong ko hentam aje. Oops , sayang sekali - cubaan bohong ko tu tak menjadi. Ha ha
- muslim bagi fakta
- kapiak hanya auta
Setuju?

Skg apa dah jadi dgn auta ko 'between backbone and ribs' ttg Quran86:4-7? Ko setuju ttg 'semen' bukan 'sperm'. Ko tak mampu jawab bila garisan dilakar antara 'coccyx' / 'ribs' yg melalui 'seminal vesicles'. Ko dah kantoi tambi. Ko ada rasa2 nak 'yam seng' mabuk ke utk hilangkan perasaan kecewa ko tu? Ha ha .... biasak lah kan , ko ni atheis .... mabuk macamana pun tak ada hal.  

My question : What is the basis of your (mis)understanding that semen emanates from the testes as now you argue that 'location of sperm = location of semen'?

Do you want a debate on the existence of god from the logical and scientific standpoint? Oops , you will be too scared to respond.

sam1528

prototaip posted on 30-1-2013 04:54 PM
Sekarang kamu kata abang tulis semen emanates from testes?Cuba bagitahu abang post no apa abang tu ...

Ha ha , you made another blunder once again. I really don't know why you have this self destruct tendency. If you had better comprehension my question is as follows :

What is the basis of your (mis)understanding that semen emanates from the testes as now you argue that 'location of sperm = location of semen'?

Sekarang kamu kata abang tulis semen emanates from testes?Cuba bagitahu abang post no apa abang tulis semen emanates from testicles?Abang tulis sperm produced from testicles.

Silent readers other than sam1528 here please tell me which of my posts stated semen is produced from testicles?

Harap2 kamu bertaubatlah sebab ajaran Islam di Malaysia melarang kamu berbohong hatta dengan kafir sekali pun. Tak tahu la pulak kalau kamu dah betul2 mendalami sirah2 sampai sanggup  berbohong.Ada satu istilah yg disebut Taqiyyah.Kamu amalkan istilah ni betul tak,sam1528?

Why are you now trying to change the issue from 'location of semen' to 'semen produced'. This is not paraphrasing but blatant lying. I am asking for the basis of your (mis)understanding.

Where I got such? Your post#145 , bit part :

He keep repeating sperm = semen argument when none of us ever said that. We should agree from now on that semen contains sperm so we can say location of sperm = location of semen.

Such a statement .... you ever been to school let alone '...oooh I am an oversea university graduate and scored straight A's in my SPM'.

Ha ha , this is just too easy. I am slapping you left and right and there is nothing you can do.

My question : What is the basis of your (mis)understanding that semen emanates from the testes as now you argue that 'location of sperm = location of semen'?

Do you want a debate on the existence of god from the logical and scientific standpoint? Oops , you will be too scared to respond.

You stated that you wanted to teach me a lesson and you are very knowledgeable in science. Can we have the above debate? You know , so that you can school me in logic and science? Why so scared? There is no empirical evidence for no god? Non existence of god cannot be proven via logic and science? Why are you such a scaredy cat?

Dzulqarnain

prototaip posted on 30-1-2013 03:00 PM
Hahahaha...what make you think arabic language, which is just derived from older language, is lang ...

Like i told before
U cant jz stick number plates at the front page and the back of the Quran
and declare yourself "i'm the Quran intepreter" because
a prototype was not designed to be functional - for display only


See, now you know how humans communicate
Universally, all kind of languages must have some similiraty in phonetics
Divine words are meant to remind mankind through His messenger - his mother tounge language
so that anyone near him can understand and for any learned man to grab wisdom from it.
Wise man says - language is the key of knowledge.

Scholars do think critically, brighten the thoughts of mind - to make things better for greater good
That's why the highest recognition given to any field of specialist is philosopher.
- they create new term i.e. sperm, semen, plate number, etc.

God can read your heart and mind without any human form of language...The Creator of all creation.

p/s: Surely this topic is for teh-tarik scholars...while chewing chee cheong fun.

prototaip

sam1528 posted on 30-1-2013 06:55 PM
Ha ha , you made another blunder once again. I really don't know why you have this self destruct t ...

Hahaha....keep talking like snake.Dari tadi troll sperm =semen.Keep replying with zero argument. Abang jumpa kau memang siap lah kau.PM la alamat atau tempat temujanji kalau rasa hebat sangat nak berdebat one by one.Abang boleh bawa buku2 sains,kitab2 agama serta gambarajah tulang manusia.
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Nak debat pasal tuhan wujud ke tak?Abang takkan buktikan bahawa tuhan tak wujud.Tapi abang boleh buktikan bahawa tuhan versi Islam Allah tidak wujud.

Abang akan menggunakan fakta dari teori evolusi utk membuktikan Allah tidak wujud kerana Islam percaya semua makhluk dijadikan terus dgn keadaan sekarang (Creationist)

So, do you accept evolution as the only explanation of life?If you accept it then Adam and Eve is just a myth.Therfore,Koran is myth.

If you deny evolution.Then I will sympathize with you since your children will have dark future awaiting them.No real biologist will deny evolution,you know.

Let me guess.....you are googling harunyahya right now.Make the work easier for me then.

sam1528

prototaip posted on 30-1-2013 02:36 PM
Let refresh back what thread starter try to address about Koran:
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I must have missed this as it was not directed to me. Let see just how far 'prototaip' wants to take his BS

Let refresh back what thread starter try to address about Koran:
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Quran 86:5-7

"Now let man but think from what he is created!
He is created from a drop emitted
Proceeding from between the backbone and the ribs"
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1)Try to reintepret the word to increase vagueness
In order to make up for this error,our only muslim apologist sam1528 wants to substitute backbone with loin.But in order to do so, he must ignore the intepretation of all of Koran muslim interpreter and translators such as Yusuf Ali and Ibnu Kathir which of course are more honest than those from non muslims.

However, it is still wrong since location between loin and ribs is stomach.

Why are you being deceitful arguing on selective translations? We have already covered this area that it can mean either loin or backbone. In fact , in the Quran , the word 'sulb' means loins. Quran4:23 bit part : source

الَّذِينَ مِنْ أَصْلَابِكُمْ وَأَنْ تَجْمَعُو

Translation of the underlined : min aslabikum = from your loins

Secular sources :

It is suggested that the Chelebi is derived from the Arabic salb or sulb, “loins,” and that it originally denoted “true born” or “lawful heir”

source
When we muslims argue that 'sulb' means loins we have the consistency of the Quran and the reference to a Bulletin of the School of Oriental Studies, University of London Vol. 2, No. 1  (1921), pp. 163-172 (Cambridge University Press). You have nothing but just farting thru your mouth.

2)Create new scientific method of drawing area which can made scientists facepalm
In order to make it right,muslim apologists from certain websites try to redraw the location between loin and ribs by using awkward method, where any experienced biologists and doctors who teaching their trainees can commit suicide if their trainee try to show the area between the loin and ribs.

Do you know what BETWEEN means, sam1528?

Ha ha , this is about the worst argument there is. Ha ha , to you it is absolute that a horizontal line be drawn in reference to an upright human stance? Ok then , provide the medical citation that states so. Can you do that or you are just pulling 'facts' from your rear end? Since you die die insist on 'backbone and ribs' then we just draw a line between the coccyx and ribs. The line will naturally pass thru the seminal vesicles. I don't need to tell you what is the seminal vesicles. What is so akward about the said line. You are just arguing based on your unlearned opinion. There is no medical citation that states only a horizontal line need be drawn in reference to the unright stance of humans. Again , you are just farting thru your mouth. Unless you die die (mis)understand that semen = sperm.

Can we now say the seminal vesciles is BETWEEN the backbone and ribs referring to the said line BETWEEN the coccyx and ribs? If you argue against such , provide your medical citation.

3)Muslim strawman.
About whether sperm = semen or not, we talk about location of the thing that can produce human which is semen (which MUST contains sperm).Koran talks about fluid or drop (depend on translations) that can create human and it is originated between ribs and backbone. It is false based on modern biology though.Therefore, an error is detected in Koran.

Ha ha , what is the fluid ejaculated? Semen or sperm? Is semen = sperm? If you argue on location , then you need to answer a simple question : What is the basis of your (mis)understanding that semen emanates from the testes as now you argue that 'location of sperm = location of semen'?  

Last but not least : Do you want a debate on the existence of god from the logical and scientific standpoint? Oops , you will be too scared to respond.

prototaip

Dzulqarnain posted on 30-1-2013 07:59 PM
Like i told before
U cant jz stick number plates at the front page and the back of the Quran
and ...

The main problem is Greek, Persian, Aramaic are not Muhammad mother tonque language.

And Koran gives wisdom?Wisdom of what?Earth is flat?Sun sets in muddy spring?Shooting stars to  be thrown at jiinn?Kill non believers?Have sex with slave?Sun moves around the earth?I can start many threads to expose all stupidty in Koran and Bukhari Hadiths if you want.That make sam1528 even more meroyan...

You just good at being off topic do you?

sam1528

prototaip posted on 30-1-2013 09:41 PM
Hahaha....keep talking like snake.Dari tadi troll sperm =semen.Keep replying with zero argument. A ...

Ha ha , why are you so scared to debate me in english. You claimed that you participated in international forums. The medium of communication is english or BM? Awat bengap sgt.

Hahaha....keep talking like snake.Dari tadi troll sperm =semen.Keep replying with zero argument. Abang jumpa kau memang siap lah kau.PM la alamat atau tempat temujanji kalau rasa hebat sangat nak berdebat one by one.Abang boleh bawa buku2 sains,kitab2 agama serta gambarajah tulang manusia.

What zero argument tambi? It is very clear that your argument is based on selective translations ie. being deceitful. In any translation , there will not be 100% accuracy. My position has the consistency of the Quran in verse 4:23 and the reference to a Bulletin of the School of Oriental Studies, University of London Vol. 2, No. 1  (1921), pp. 163-172 (Cambridge University Press) which states 'sulb' to be loins. You have nothing but just farting thru your mouth.

The best part you blundered big time that sperm = semen. Now you blundered again with location of sperm = location of semen.

Nak debat pasal tuhan wujud ke tak?Abang takkan buktikan bahawa tuhan tak wujud.Tapi abang boleh buktikan bahawa tuhan versi Islam Allah tidak wujud.

Abang akan menggunakan fakta dari teori evolusi utk membuktikan Allah tidak wujud kerana Islam percaya semua makhluk dijadikan terus dgn keadaan sekarang (Creationist)

So, do you accept evolution as the only explanation of life?If you accept it then Adam and Eve is just a myth.Therfore,Koran is myth.

If you deny evolution.Then I will sympathize with you since your children will have dark future awaiting them.No real biologist will deny evolution,you know.

Let me guess.....you are googling harunyahya right now.Make the work easier for me then

Ha ha , ko takkan buktikan atau ko tak ada bukti yg tuhan tak wujud? Why are you so scared to provide the empirical evidence that there is no god? I have no issues to provide the empirical evidence of the existence of god.

Ha ha , ok give your best shot on the theiry of evolution that negates the existence of god. However I expect to see evidence in your argument and not just pulling 'facts' from your rear end.

Ha ha , tell me what is the value of the so called theory of evolution in medicine , engineering , economics. Can you quantify its value to the fields I mentioned?

Nobody is denying evolution. It is 'common descend' that is problematic - there is no evidence.
Microevolution is real as it is adaptation of species
Macroevolution is real to a certain extent as it entails speciation
Common descend is half baked with absolutely no evidence.

Come on give it your best shot. I assure you , you will come out second best.

prototaip

sam1528 posted on 30-1-2013 09:43 PM
I must have missed this as it was not directed to me. Let see just how far 'prototaip' wants to ta ...

One simple question for you.Do you believe Koran refers to loin or backbone?

If you believe Koran talks about loin.Why you keep saying drawing line between ribs and coccyx?Coccyx is the most bottom part of backbone.

So loin or backbone Koran refers to?If you say loin, then you should draw line from just above the pelvis to the ribs,not from cocyxx to ribs.However, that will point at stomach.

Woww....so many stupid things you said already.I am amazed by you logic now.

prototaip

sam1528 posted on 30-1-2013 09:58 PM
Ha ha , why are you so scared to debate me in english. You claimed that you participated in intern ...

I can debate with you in German and Japanese if you want.I just write in bm because you are too stupid in reading comprehension even in english.Did you forget already what you said in previous post?You cannot differentiate who return to public life.Al-Razi or Socrates????

Evolution is not important to medicine and economy????What kind of world are you living right now???What is the use of vaccine/antibiotics to the society?

Here some source:http://www.actionbioscience.org/evolution/pigliucci.html

Evolution to biology  is just like grammar to the language.Do  you think you understand fully biology without evolution?

Loll....another macroevolution vs microevolution.Macroevolution means a series of microevolution over a long time.You create strawman against biologist to denote as if macroevolution and microevolution are different process.This is already long debunked.No scientists ever take macroevolution and microevolution as different processes.

I am already bored with somoeone like you.Keep recycling the same argument over and over.

sam1528

prototaip posted on 30-1-2013 10:03 PM
One simple question for you.Do you believe Koran refers to loin or backbone?

If you believe K ...

Why are exposing your less than average intelligence? By now any intelligent person would understand
- if you argue on translation - the correct translation in context is loins
- if you argue on being literal (ie. die die you say 'sulb' is backbone) - we can draw an line from the coccyx to ribs which naturally intersects the seminal vesicles
We muslims will win either way.

One simple question for you.Do you believe Koran refers to loin or backbone?

If you believe Koran talks about loin.Why you keep saying drawing line between ribs and coccyx?Coccyx is the most bottom part of backbone.

So loin or backbone Koran refers to?If you say loin, then you should draw line from just above the pelvis to the ribs,not from cocyxx to ribs.However, that will point at stomach.

Woww....so many stupid things you said already.I am amazed by you logic now.

What aspect do you want to argue? Translation or literal? Why are you so blur , mixing up the 2 issues? Your problem is that you are not even clear of your own argument. You cannot even identify whether you want to argue on the various translations or being literal (ie. 'sulb' die die to mean backbone).

Ha ha , point to stomach. So what? The line will also naturally pass thru the seminal vesicles. Therefore we can say it is BETWEEN the backbone and ribs. Not very intelligent .... are you?

So how? Are you game to debate on evolution that you die die claim can negate god? Come on , don't be scared nor shy. I am waiting ....

sam1528

prototaip posted on 30-1-2013 10:17 PM
I can debate with you in German and Japanese if you want.I just write in bm because you are too stup ...

Ooooh , german or japanese .... sheikh google translate will do the trick. Ha ha , you still hung up on your blunder with regards to Al Razi and Socrates? Appears that you don't even know the functions of comma / semi colon. Is it not enough that you have been hammered to your knees? I thought I provided a clear explanation by substituting the commas / semicolons with brackets and then taking out the contents of the brackets. No counter from you. Why are you still whining?

I can debate with you in German and Japanese if you want.I just write in bm because you are too stupid in reading comprehension even in english.Did you forget already what you said in previous post?You cannot differentiate who return to public life.Al-Razi or Socrates????

Evolution is not important to medicine and economy????What kind of world are you living right now???What is the use of vaccine/antibiotics to the society?

Here some source:http://www.actionbioscience.org/evolution/pigliucci.html

Evolution to biology  is just like grammar to the language.Do  you think you understand fully biology without evolution?

Loll....another macroevolution vs microevolution.Macroevolution means a series of microevolution over a long time.You create strawman against biologist to denote as if macroevolution and microevolution are different process.This is already long debunked.No scientists ever take macroevolution and microevolution as different processes.

I am already bored with somoeone like you.Keep recycling the same argument over and over.

Ok then explain to me what is the contribution of evolution , oops let me be specific - common descent as I do not have an issue with microevolution and to a certain extent macroevolution ; to vaccine and antibodies? We are talking about adaptation. So what? Of course an organism will adapt to the surrounding. Nobody has an issue.

** Notice the comma and semicolon

Ha ha , spoken like a true neo darwinist. Ok then provide the evidence of a lot of microevolution that gives rise to macroevolution. Come on , if you claim bored then its clear you do not have any evidence to support your claim. I am going to fire the first salvo. Lets look into the tree of common descend :



All I need is to address the base. Can you now provide empirical evidence of single cell organism evolving to multicellular organism? I refer to Lenski's experiment
Lenski's experiments
More than 44k generations have been cultured. So far no evolution to multicellular organism. Only mutation that certain strains can survive in different cultures.

But sometime around the 31,500th generation, something dramatic happened in just one of the populations - the bacteria suddenly acquired the ability to metabolise citrate, a second nutrient in their culture medium that E. coli normally cannot use.

Indeed, the inability to use citrate is one of the traits by which bacteriologists distinguish E. coli from other species. The citrate-using mutants increased in population size and diversity.

Where is your so called argument of evolution that negates the existence of god? Fantasy don't count ... ha ha

prototaip

sam1528 posted on 30-1-2013 10:25 PM
Why are exposing your less than average intelligence? By now any intelligent person would understa ...

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Ha ha , point to stomach. So what? The line will also naturally pass thru the seminal vesicles. Therefore we can say it is BETWEEN the backbone and ribs. Not very intelligent .... are you?
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The line will also naturally pass thru the seminal vesicles?????Wow......you must be really idiot.Seminal vesicles is way to the bottom.The line wont meet at all.May you please tell me what is the location of upper part of pelvis?Here is pelvis:


Here is seminal vesicle labelled no 2:
Source: http://www.med.umich.edu/lrc/cou ... /xray/vasogram.html



Can you see how far it is from the loin (upper part of pelvis) if you draw line upward from the loin to the ribs?That line does not meet vesicles at all.So Koran is in error then.

I dont care if the God exists or not, the most important thing Islam is the man made religion and therefore Allah does not exist.Eternal hell exists in christianity and islam only.It is more safer to choose Christian rather than Islam if I want to avoid eternal hell since Christian has better credibility in Bibles,story of Jesus,records,etc  rather than Muhammad proof of prophethood.

In other religions such as Buddhists,Hindus, becoming atheist is not the sure ticket to hell.They talks more about spiritual practices rather than ritual or follow Muhammad blindly.Indeed, someone with the condition free from dogma and delusion can achieve greater spiritual level according to Dharmic religions.

Dzulqarnain

prototaip posted on 30-1-2013 09:48 PM
The main problem is Greek, Persian, Aramaic are not Muhammad mother tonque language.

And Koran  ...

The Arabs didnt have problems with it.
They jz listen, listen, listen, listen, listen,listen...listen.
If they reject, they react - meaning they understood.
I've been told that animals do have problems understanding it.
- surely the mind is a throne of men. Other living creatures dont have it. Plate number? - Not!

Does earth, sun, stars, jinns, etc. can produce sperm?
Did u read the topic?
- Bring it on! But new topic la...kowtim 'sperm' dulu.

Ur saying?

prototaip

sam1528 posted on 30-1-2013 10:46 PM
Ooooh , german or japanese .... sheikh google translate will do the trick. Ha ha , you still hung  ...

I repeat once again.I just want to disprove yourAllah which is islamic God.Not other Gods in other religions or god as common term.Is it really hard for you to comprehend,idiot?

I have no problem with loving God in christianity,hinduism,etc.I also have no problem  with Allah,God from Sikhism.But definitely not Allah of Islam.So, if I dont want to avoid any possible eternal hell, I will simply go to church and convert to christianity.Of course I am not going to blindly choose Christianity as religion using Pascal Wager. I need to study other holy scriptures also.However, I am done with Koran.It is obviously man made book.It has no quality, no morality, no knowledge at all.Even its follower has no brain at all, just like sam1528. That is why there is hardly any muslim scientists exist.  

sam1528

prototaip posted on 30-1-2013 10:56 PM
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Ha ha , point to stomach. So what? Th ...

Ha ha , such a poor description of your argument. Why are you providing the perspective from the 'top'?

Ha ha , point to stomach. So what? The line will also naturally pass thru the seminal vesicles. Therefore we can say it is BETWEEN the backbone and ribs. Not very intelligent .... are you?
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The line will also naturally pass thru the seminal vesicles?????Wow......you must be really idiot.Seminal vesicles is way to the bottom.The line wont meet at all.May you please tell me what is the location of upper part of pelvis?Here is pelvis:


Here is seminal vesicle labelled no 2:
Source: http://www.med.umich.edu/lrc/cou ... /xray/vasogram.html



Can you see how far it is from the loin (upper part of pelvis) if you draw line upward from the loin to the ribs?That line does not meet vesicles at all.So Koran is in error then.

I dont care if the God exists or not, the most important thing Islam is the man made religion and therefore Allah does not exist.Eternal hell exists in christianity and islam only.It is more safer to choose Christian rather than Islam if I want to avoid eternal hell since Christian has better credibility in Bibles,story of Jesus,records,etc  rather than Muhammad proof of prophethood.

In other religions such as Buddhists,Hindus, becoming atheist is not the sure ticket to hell.They talks more about spiritual practices rather than ritual or follow Muhammad blindly.Indeed, someone with the condition free from dogma and delusion can achieve greater spiritual level according to Dharmic religions.

Go back to post#6. It accurately dipict a human in a sideway perspective. I draw a line from the coccyx to ribs , it will intersect the seminal vesicles. Therefore it is BETWEEN the backbone and ribs. You are a crazy person. You need to look into this issue with a sideway perspective. Looking from top down does not give you any information. You are an oversea university graduate who scored straight A's in your SPM? You are just asserting (with no facts) that the Quran is in error.

Oh I see , in other words you are an islamophobe? These are the people with the lowest intelligence level. Ha ha , trying to curry favours with christians I see. Politically trying to preserve your buddy buddy with 'wkk5159' issit? Podah lah tambi ...

Come on , lets see your argument for common descent .... don't forget the empirical evidence.

sam1528

prototaip posted on 30-1-2013 11:10 PM
I repeat once again.I just want to disprove yourAllah which is islamic God.Not other Gods in other ...

Ha ha , you suddenly realize that you have been caught (again) with your pants down. Now you are scared to debate regarding the existence or non existence of god on a platform of science / logic. This shows that you have nothing in your locker. Even trying to argue on Quran86:4-7 you are blur. You don't know what position to take.

I repeat once again.I just want to disprove yourAllah which is islamic God.Not other Gods in other religions or god as common term.Is it really hard for you to comprehend,idiot?

I have no problem with loving God in christianity,hinduism,etc.I also have no problem  with Allah,God from Sikhism.But definitely not Allah of Islam.So, if I dont want to avoid any possible eternal hell, I will simply go to church and convert to christianity.Of course I am not going to blindly choose Christianity as religion using Pascal Wager. I need to study other holy scriptures also.However, I am done with Koran.It is obviously man made book.It has no quality, no morality, no knowledge at all.Even its follower has no brain at all, just like sam1528. That is why there is hardly any muslim scientists exist.  

You want to disprove Allah based on selective translations? This is the objective of crazy people. You want to disprove Allah based on frontal view of an x ray picture / skeleton. This is even crazier as you are looking from the wrong perspective. You are just a headless chicken chasing your backside.

Ha ha , you studied the Quran? From Sam Shamoun or Ali Sina? What are the qualifications of these people? I now have this feeling that you must have failed your SPM. You are not even clear of your own argument.

Ha ha , of course the muslim world lags in scientific research. This is normal when muslims leave the Quran. We were once leaders in science when we held closely to the Quran. I view it as a cycle in the ups / downs of civilization. This is normal.

Come on , why don't you try taking me on with your so called evolution arguments that you so confidently say can negate god as you die die claim to have vast scientific knowledge. Fantasy don't count yeah

Dzulqarnain

The biologist wannabe says:

A male who has reached puberty will produce millions of sperm cells

Meaning, sperm production is an act of puberty.

Can someone help this OKU guy explains which internal part of the body responsible for the state of puberty?

sam1528

prototaip posted on 30-1-2013 11:10 PM
I repeat once again.I just want to disprove yourAllah which is islamic God.Not other Gods in other ...

Ha ha , in other words you are an Islamophobe. Islamophobes are the least intelligent people around. They just do not have proper thinking process.

I repeat once again.I just want to disprove yourAllah which is islamic God.Not other Gods in other religions or god as common term.Is it really hard for you to comprehend,idiot?

I have no problem with loving God in christianity,hinduism,etc.I also have no problem  with Allah,God from Sikhism.But definitely not Allah of Islam.So, if I dont want to avoid any possible eternal hell, I will simply go to church and convert to christianity.Of course I am not going to blindly choose Christianity as religion using Pascal Wager. I need to study other holy scriptures also.However, I am done with Koran.It is obviously man made book.It has no quality, no morality, no knowledge at all.Even its follower has no brain at all, just like sam1528. That is why there is hardly any muslim scientists exist.  

You want to disprove Allah by selective translations? This is mindset of crazy people who argue based on translations. You want to disprove Allah based on photographs. This is even crazier as your argument is not even addressing the correct perspective. Therefore the idiot is you and you only. You have been forced to eat the humble pie as I argue with proper facts and references but you just seem to pull 'facts' from your rear end.

Ha ha , do tell me the logic of the triune god. Can you explain such to me? You learned the Quran? From Sam Shamoun or Ali Sina? What are the qualifications of these people? Care to explain. No wonder you are so blur in your arguments. Your arguments are all just assertions with no facts whatsoever. This type of arguments are by people with no common sense. Yet you claim being a oversea graduate and scored straight A's in your SPM?

Of course the muslim world lags in science. This is what happens when we leave the Quran as we were the leaders in science in the past. I just view it as the ups / down in civilization. I can rationalize why muslims lag in research :

But look more closely and two things are clear. A Muslim scientific awakening is under way. And the roots of scientific backwardness lie not with religious leaders, but with secular rulers, who are as stingy with cash as they are lavish with controls over independent thought.

Not only were science and Islam compatible, but religion could even spur scientific innovation. Accurately calculating the beginning of Ramadan (determined by the sighting of the new moon) motivated astronomers. The Hadith (the sayings of Muhammad) exhort believers to seek knowledge, “even as far as China”.

Foreigners are already on their way there. Jean Fréchet, who heads research, is a French chemist tipped to win a Nobel prize. The Saudi newcomer boasts research collaborations with the universities of Oxford and Cambridge, and with Imperial College, London. The rulers of neighbouring Qatar are bumping up research spending from 0.8% to a planned 2.8% of GDP: depending on growth, that could reach $5 billion a year. Research spending in Turkey increased by over 10% each year between 2005 and 2010, by which year its cash outlays were twice Norway’s.

The tide of money is bearing a fleet of results. In the 2000 to 2009 period Turkey’s output of scientific papers rose from barely 5,000 to 22,000; with less cash, Iran’s went up 1,300, to nearly 15,000. Quantity does not imply quality, but the papers are getting better, too. Scientific journals, and not just the few based in the Islamic world, are citing these papers more frequently. A study in 2011 by Thomson Reuters, an information firm, shows that in the early 1990s other publishers cited scientific papers from Egypt, Iran, Jordan, Saudi Arabia and Turkey (the most prolific Muslim countries) four times less often than the global average. By 2009 it was only half as often. In the category of best-regarded mathematics papers, Iran now performs well above average, with 1.7% of its papers among the most-cited 1%, with Egypt and Saudi Arabia also doing well. Turkey scores highly on engineering.

the economist

With the capital outlay , things will be different in 30 yrs time. Hope you are alive to watch and curse as the Islamic revival is definately underway. Come to think of it , Germany , France , the UK will have it political landscape changed in the near future.
Ha ha , where will you go then? Mongolia? Ha ha

wkk5159

Quote the serpent Samxxxx ; "Ha ha , of course the muslim world lags in scientific research. This is normal when muslims leave the Quran. We were once leaders in science when we held closely to the Quran. I view it as a cycle in the ups / downs of civilization. This is normal."

This is exactly what i heard when i attended Tamadun Islam during my freshman year in uni, muslims always love to boast about their past glory(lots of their so called scientists not even muslims to begin with) and stop moving forward ever since. His lame excuse like "of course the muslim world lags in scientific research. This is normal when muslims leave the Quran. " Is he admitting that all muslim is leaving the teaching of Islam and it is indeed a failed religion ? Close scrutiny of his claims doesn't support this serpentine lies as there is concrete evidence that if the people of a nation become more islamic, more backward and less civilized it becomes, eg Sudan, Saudi, Iran, Aghanistan. But when a islamic country become more secular like western country, the condition improves eg: Turkey, UAE and Qatar....


Quote the Retarded Dzurxxxxx ; Can someone help this OKU guy explains which internal part of the body responsible for the state of puberty?

This is prime example of mental retardation......thank you for the off topic entertainment.

sam1528

wkk5159 posted on 31-1-2013 12:21 AM
Quote the serpent Samxxxx ; "Ha ha , of course the muslim world lags in scientific research. This is ...

Quote the serpent Samxxxx ; "Ha ha , of course the muslim world lags in scientific research. This is normal when muslims leave the Quran. We were once leaders in science when we held closely to the Quran. I view it as a cycle in the ups / downs of civilization. This is normal."

This is exactly what i heard when i attended Tamadun Islam during my freshman year in uni, muslims always love to boast about their past glory(lots of their so called scientists not even muslims to begin with) and stop moving forward ever since. His lame excuse like "of course the muslim world lags in scientific research. This is normal when muslims leave the Quran. " Is he admitting that all muslim is leaving the teaching of Islam and it is indeed a failed religion ? Close scrutiny of his claims doesn't support this serpentine lies as there is concrete evidence that if the people of a nation become more islamic, more backward and less civilized it becomes, eg Sudan, Saudi, Iran, Aghanistan. But when a islamic country become more secular like western country, the condition improves eg: Turkey, UAE and Qatar....


Quote the Retarded Dzurxxxxx ; Can someone help this OKU guy explains which internal part of the body responsible for the state of puberty?

This is prime example of mental retardation......thank you for the off topic entertainment.

Err did you read the reference I provided? Holy cow , you attended uni?

Ha ha , of course you did not. Intelligence don't go hand in hand with you as you are just a side show or just a cheerleader.

By the way do you now know that sperm <> semen? Ha ha , a 'medical professional' in your dreams perhaps .....