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Originally posted by greekgod at 18-5-2006 12:48 PM
no matter how hard you try, perelman will always twist your fact.
im tired and not interested to talk and discuss anything withone who is self-arrogant, and self-centered.
no matter how hard i try, perelman will always have excuses, and he always did. just look how he twisted his own fact regarding GIA - non-existent, later exist - what ever la...
i dont think it is worth anything to read his post. ridiculous and lousy thing to read and post anything for him. let he be in his dream....
You are right brother but i will entertain him a bit longer.This guy perelman is a fraud,i don't think he is from Israel like he always claimed to be but he may be from somewhere near who sympathise with Israel.He seems so lost about Israel issue,i guess we can expose him and his multiple identity in here.Let him talk more often and we will notice it eventually. |
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Reply #161 wira_melayu's post
to say about lost.. he doest even know about the existence of GIA, which at first he denied and later agreed with me.
hey, he used to mentioned that he joined Israel Defense Force (IDF), maybe he wants to tell us which regiment and which city he has been sent to? |
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Originally posted by wira_melayu at 19-5-2006 02:56 AM
Where show me the verse please?
5:21 Koran tells that Holy Land is assigned to the Jews.
In 17:104 Koran commands Jews to settle in Holy Land (settlers that are hated by Arab propaganda actually acomplish Koranic command).
You are behaving the same like what greekgod describe about you earlier,you twisted facts to suit your own agenda.Aren't we talking about war?So i'm correct when i say that Jews started the war.
Terror was started by the Arabs in 1920, war was started by the Arabs in 1947.
Yeah you are right,killing innocents is legitimate accroding to the Jews.
No, I am not talking about Jews but about GENEVA CONVENTIONS. According to them military objects are legetimate target, even if there are civilians around. |
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Originally posted by Nick_Perelman at 19-5-2006 09:51 AM
Terror was started by the Arabs in 1920, war was started by the Arabs in 1947.
another fact twist! But good-twister perelman is not... |
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Originally posted by greekgod at 19-5-2006 10:18 AM
another fact twist! But good-twister perelman is not...
Sharon, Perelman's master of terror is a vegetable now.. they' re breeding new ones.. |
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Originally posted by greekgod at 19-5-2006 10:18 AM
another fact twist! But good-twister perelman is not...
Bring arguments. Yep, I am not good in twisting in contrast to Arab propaganda. |
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http://www.phrmg.org/initifiada%20statistics.htm
Summary of Palestinian Fatalities 28 September 2000 - 28 April 2005
4195
Summary of Israeli fatalities from September. 28, 2000 to 31 March , 2006
1084
Who got greater in number?
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Read more from:
http://www.btselem.org/english/statistics/Index.asp
B'Tselem is Israel Human Rights Movement, i bet Nick-perelman doesnt even know about this organisation existence.
Fatalities
Intifada fatalities
Death penalty in the Palestinian Authority
Detainees and prisoners
Monthly tables of custody
Minors in IDF custody
Minors in IPS custody
Administrative detention
Destruction of property
Demolition of houses as punishment
Demolition of houses built without permits
Demolition for alleged military purposes
East Jerusalem
Demolition of houses built without a license
Land expropriation and use
Building starts
Building density
Revocation of residency
Separation Barrier
Data on updated route
Settlements
Data on settlements' population by year, XLS
Injured Persons
Palestinians - Red Crescent website
Israelis - IDF website
Residency
Deportation
Revocation of residency in East Jerusalem
Restrictions on movement
Checkpoints
Unemployment and poverty
Curfew - Red Crescent website |
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Originally posted by Nick_Perelman at 19-5-2006 09:51 AM
5:21 Koran tells that Holy Land is assigned to the Jews.
In 17:104 Koran commands Jews to settle in Holy Land (settlers that are hated by Arab propaganda actually acomplish Koranic command).
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That's right you may read it from holy Quran 5.12 to 5.21,according to the verse Moses(PBUH) worship Allah and according to the verse also Moses's(PBUH) peoples are the true believers of Allah,there you see the differences with the modern Jews and the Jews according to the Quran.
Terror was started by the Arabs in 1920, war was started by the Arabs in 1947.
Terror was started by the migrants from Europe in 1920,war started by the Jews in 1947 against British to give up the mandate.
No, I am not talking about Jews but about GENEVA CONVENTIONS. According to them military objects are legetimate target, even if there are civilians around.
Then you may also justify the terrorist when they blow up civillian bus just because a non uniform IDF is inside.I guess you appease terror so much and justify terror. |
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Originally posted by wira_melayu at 20-5-2006 03:51 AM
That's right you may read it from holy Quran 5.12 to 5.21,according to the verse Moses(PBUH) worship Allah and according to the verse also Moses's(PBUH) peoples are the true believers of Allah, ...
right. its a different set of laws whenever it applies to them. |
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Originally posted by wira_melayu at 20-5-2006 03:51 AM
That's right you may read it from holy Quran 5.12 to 5.21,according to the verse Moses(PBUH) worship Allah and according to the verse also Moses's(PBUH) peoples are the true believers of Allah,there you see the differences with the modern Jews and the Jews according to the Quran.
Name Al-Lah appeared 1500 years after Moses.
Terror was started by the migrants from Europe in 1920,war started by the Jews in 1947 against British to give up the mandate.
Bring examples of " imigrats from Europe terror" in 1920. If you wont bring It will be a lie.
In Nov 1947 UN voted for partition of land between Jews and Arabs. Jews accepted UN resolution, Arabs rejected and opened a war. Same day were killed 5 Jews. These are first victims of the fisrt Arab Israeli War.
Then you may also justify the terrorist when they blow up civillian bus just because a non uniform IDF is inside.I guess you appease terror so much and justify terror.
No. Civilian bus is a civilian object and not a military. You can blow military bus, even if there are some civilians inside. Cant see the difference?
Greekgod,
I already repolied on this: Israelis are killed on bases, in cafees, shops, malls, pizzerias, disshitqies. Palestinians are killed during gunfire clashes. Here good article on it:
http://www.ict.org.il/articles/articledet.cfm?articleid=440
Also in previous link you can notice that Islamic terrorists kill people all around the world, Isrealis are tiny portion of the victims of Islamic terrorism. Most of the victims are Muslims themselves.
Who sows wind reaps storm. |
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Reply #171 Nick_Perelman's post
pls make some comment for post #167 and #168,
love to hear something from your side. |
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I gave comment, cant you see? |
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Originally posted by Nick_Perelman at 20-5-2006 08:35 AM
Name Al-Lah appeared 1500 years after Moses.
Looks like you've contradicting what you earlier claimed about the holy Quran verses,issit because there's no answer from you and now you twisted facts again.
Bring examples of " imigrats from Europe terror" in 1920. If you wont bring It will be a lie.
In Nov 1947 UN voted for partition of land between Jews and Arabs. Jews accepted UN resolution, Arabs rejected and opened a war. Same day were killed 5 Jews. These are first victims of the fisrt Arab Israeli War.
Simple,the terrorist groups Haganah was formed in 1920,Jewish legion(1917), Betar, (Brit Trumpeldor) (1917),i may add up some more details if you want to.
No. Civilian bus is a civilian object and not a military. You can blow military bus, even if there are some civilians inside. Cant see the difference?
Targeting any innocent civillians wherever they are is a crime,i don't see why must you support it. |
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Reply #174 wira_melayu's post
dont you just see wira, nick is a man without honor neither he has pride.
he put contradiction, too many upon his own claimed facts, yet those "facts" are sometimes against each other.
besides, as we already seen earlier, and i think it is best for us to award him:
Mr. Twister |
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Originally posted by wira_melayu at 24-5-2006 12:40 AM
Looks like you've contradicting what you earlier claimed about the holy Quran verses,issit because there's no answer from you and now you twisted facts again.
What exactly is a contradiction in my words?
Simple,the terrorist groups Haganah was formed in 1920,Jewish legion(1917), Betar, (Brit Trumpeldor) (1917),i may add up some more details if you want to.
No, these are ANTI-terrorist groups. I asked for terrorrists attacks in 1920. Still waiting
Targeting any innocent civillians wherever they are is a crime,i don't see why must you support it.
Yes targeting civilians is a crime, however targeting military object is not a crime.
Originally posted by greekgod
dont you just see wira, nick is a man without honor neither he has pride.
Talks who? Arabfirster. Haha. |
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greekgod wrote: besides, as we already seen earlier, and i think it is best for us to award him:
Mr. Twister
Nick_Perelman wrote: Talks who? Arabfirster. Haha.
Unwanted remarks.
You two be warned. |
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Originally posted by DivinePonytail at 24-5-2006 06:37 AM
Unwanted remarks.
You two be warned.
c閚 uair amad醤 casadh 骾nseach. |
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Originally posted by Nick_Perelman at 24-5-2006 02:22 AM
What exactly is a contradiction in my words?
You still denying that you're twisting the facts arent you?Let me take you from your first post;
post #126
Originally posted by Nick_Perelman at 8-5-2006 04:26 PM
Stop talking nonsense. G-d clearly says that jews will return to their lands. Even your Koran confirms that Holy Land belongs to Jews, despite Arabs and their firsters try to hide it.
Haha. ...
You see you already made a statement that the Holy Quran confirms that Holy land belongs to Jews then in post #153, #157 and #163 you quote 2 Quranic verses which i replied;
by wira_melayu
That's right you may read it from holy Quran 5.12 to 5.21,according to the verse Moses(PBUH) worship Allah and according to the verse also Moses's(PBUH) peoples are the true believers of Allah,there you see the differences with the modern Jews and the Jews according to the Quran.
And in post #171,it's the post that show you blew it
Originally posted by Nick_Perelman at 20-5-2006 08:35 AM
Name Al-Lah appeared 1500 years after Moses.
Firstly you are the one who quotes the Quranic verses regarding Moses and suddenly you said name Allah appeared 1500 years after Moses,well it's a clear hypocrisy shown on your part does it?
So stop twisting facts and just admit that you've lost the race.Tell me who did Moses(pbuh) worship according to the holy Quran?So how can Allah name appeared 1500 years after Moses(pbuh) when Moses(pbuh) himself got commands from Allah according to the verses that you yourself quoted
Shame on you,no wonder some forummers label you as Mr.Twister
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Jews believed in one G-d 2 thousand years before Islam. They did not call G-d "allah", because this name appeared much much later. What's your problem?
And that's funny that EVEN Muslim Koran admits that land belongs to Jews. Here more verses:
7:137 We let the oppressed people inherit the land, east and west, and we blessed it. The blessed commands of your Lord were thus fulfilled for the Children of Israel, to reward them for their steadfastness, and we annihilated the works of Pharaoh and his people and everything they harvested.
And more:
17:104 And We said thereafter to the Children of Israel, "Dwell securely in the land (of promise)": but when the second of the warnings came to pass, We gathered you together in a mingled crowd.
Can you find any Palestinians in Koran? Haha. You can call me names, but you cant change facts. |
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