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Post time 19-6-2006 05:34 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by Lana at 17-6-2006 10:07 PM
Sapa sini leh bagitau ACCA ngan CFA, mana lagi best?


Dah Tentulah ACCA, CFA bukan under accounting punye qualifications.....
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Post time 20-6-2006 08:56 PM | Show all posts
Hi Gemukkkk & sab_nyer

Kita tau CFA  bukan accountingnyer qualification. Its a professional qualification for Investment/Financial analysts. Just tanya , curious nak tau between the 2 mana yg lagi best dari segi prospek kejer, renumeration  including gaji, mkt demand for job, industry growth   etc. Heard that CFA  charterholders on average receive around 15k-40k a month (depending on level of experience ) . Maybe ada sesaper leh verify.
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Post time 21-6-2006 08:27 AM | Show all posts

Reply #162 Lana's post

well.. kalau nak income sebegitu dengan kelayakan cfa..  
rasanya bergantung kepada kerajinan untuk mencari income melalui jualan insurance, unit trust, etc sebab biasanya diorang ni akan take up untuk mencantikkan name card semasa berurusan dengan potential client..

kalau dari segi prospek kerja, gaji, marketabiity, etc..  saya lebih memilih ke arah acca..  
tak perlu kejar client sana-sini untuk dapatkan sales namun gaji naik setiap tahun (walaupun bermula dari tahap executive)..  
demand untuk acca grads akan sentiasa ada walau cemana keadaan ekonomi/industri pun..  
flexibility accounting grads untuk bekerja di mana-mana bahagian pun termasuk admin, logistics, audit, hr, accts, treasury, marketing, purchasing, credit, etc  (tak terkira peluangnya)..  
potensi peningkatan kerjaya menjadi cfo/fc, partner, director, etc sentiasa ada..
selepas ada acca dan ambil 2 lagi papers, anda layak menjadi ahli micpa dan memegang title cpa..
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Post time 21-6-2006 09:34 AM | Show all posts
Originally posted by Gemukkkkkkk at 21-6-2006 08:27 AM
well.. kalau nak income sebegitu dengan kelayakan cfa..  
rasanya bergantung kepada kerajinan untuk mencari income melalui jualan insurance, unit trust, etc sebab biasanya diorang ni akan take up  ...


pergh.... cayalah g...

betul sangat2 apa yg g ckp nih.... keskeskes...
:bgrin:
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Post time 21-6-2006 09:54 AM | Show all posts

Reply #164 Foxey's post

tapi wa takde acca he he..  tak larat nak study dah..
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Post time 21-6-2006 09:59 AM | Show all posts
Originally posted by Gemukkkkkkk at 21-6-2006 09:54 AM
tapi wa takde acca he he..  tak larat nak study dah..


wa hampir2 nak amik... pastu dok pk nak MACPA ke ACCA.... pastu wat mende lain.... keskeskes.... bila ntah nak wat ACCA tu... cam malas jer... ingat nak wat master dlm mende lain laa g... :bgrin:
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Post time 21-6-2006 10:01 AM | Show all posts

Reply #166 Foxey's post

master? kenapa?  nak jadi lecturer ke?
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Post time 21-6-2006 10:10 AM | Show all posts
Originally posted by Gemukkkkkkk at 21-6-2006 10:01 AM
master? kenapa?  nak jadi lecturer ke?


nope... not a lecturer (been there, done that).... :bgrin:

i've done science, accounts.... so wanted to explore something new... :ah:
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Post time 21-6-2006 11:32 AM | Show all posts

Reply #168 Foxey's post

oo.. larat ke..  a rolling stone gathers no moss worr..
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Post time 21-6-2006 01:36 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by Gemukkkkkkk at 21-6-2006 11:32 AM
oo.. larat ke..  a rolling stone gathers no moss worr..


hmm.. in my current field, it is best that u have the versatility and diversification... :bgrin:
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Post time 21-6-2006 01:38 PM | Show all posts

Reply #170 Foxey's post

ya, bagus tu.. that will help a lot if so.. you should be the right person to ask kalau anything pasal career..
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Post time 21-6-2006 01:52 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by Gemukkkkkkk at 21-6-2006 01:38 PM
ya, bagus tu.. that will help a lot if so.. you should be the right person to ask kalau anything pasal career..


err... i think ramai lagi boleh kasi guidance pasal career ni... i leh kasik opinion sket2 jer...

lagipun g, i mmg ske try new stuff... thought of doing international relation la g... sounds interesting to me for the time being... cuma dunno when i wanna go for it...
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Post time 21-6-2006 01:57 PM | Show all posts
i ada diploma in accounting tapi merancang nak ambil ACCA secara part time..i keje sekarang nie dan i nak tanya sapa2 yg buat part time tue it's harder tak?? ACCA is tough paper..i takut sekerat jln jer nanti..any opinion plz...thanks..
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Post time 21-6-2006 02:10 PM | Show all posts
putri, susah ke tak tu, sama jer... apa2 benda pun mana ada senang kan?

yg penting u nyer will power, kehendak utk belajar, utk succeed... masa keje fokus kat keje, bila masuk class, fokus kat pembelajaran tu....if u have the drive and the hunger, u will do everything u can to achieve ur target....

ACCA ni ada kuota utk kelulusan dia... work smart, study smart, time management is the key....

i have a colleague yg wat course ni part-time... mmg nampak cam tak cukup tidur and everything, but she persevered and dah dapat pun ACCA tu...

all the best to u putri....


[ Last edited by  Foxey at 21-6-2006 02:11 PM ]
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Post time 21-6-2006 02:10 PM | Show all posts

Reply #173 putri22's post

try la ambik by parts.. at least sampai degree level pun dah cukup..
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Post time 21-6-2006 02:25 PM | Show all posts

Reply #174 Foxey's post

thanks 4 the opinions..
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Post time 21-6-2006 02:28 PM | Show all posts

Reply #175 Gemukkkkkkk's post

dulu mmg nak ambil degree tapi disebabkan mengambil masa yg lama so i tak jadi jadi nak further ke degree..so, i nak ambil ACCA at least ada professional certificate n tak mengambil masa yg lama cuma paper ACCA mmg tough laa..sekrg nie tgh survey kat mana i nak buat part time n tgk overall fees course....

[ Last edited by  putri22 at 21-6-2006 02:30 PM ]
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Post time 21-6-2006 10:28 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by Gemukkkkkkk at 21-6-2006 08:27 AM
well.. kalau nak income sebegitu dengan kelayakan cfa..  
rasanya bergantung kepada kerajinan untuk mencari income melalui jualan insurance, unit trust, etc sebab biasanya diorang ni akan take up  ...



Gem...

i think you're referring to another qualification related to I&I sales & portfolio management ,tak ingat dah apa dia..sesuai untuk sesiapa yg involved in selling insurance & Investment  or in charge of customer financial portfolio contohnya personal bankers ..

Kalu tak silap Lana CFA is more on invesment/finance analysis with  job propspect in corporate banking/ finance, investment/fund/asset  management, finance  or even consultancy & research  areas ..etc ..(correct me if i'm wrong)

Salah satu sebab Lana tanya cos ada satu member tu dah buat ACCA level 1 tapi sekarang tgh contemplate nak amik CFA since ramai gak kengkawan dia yg ada accounting qualification /degree dah beralih arah  buat CFA.  Curious gak.

Btw, baper ya  avg salary ACCA holder?
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Post time 22-6-2006 08:38 AM | Show all posts

Reply #178 Lana's post

oh, maaf..  tak clarify things..  all the while, this is my personal opinion lah..
cfp - insurance, unit trusts etc..  basically, asset management..
cfa - upgraded version..  
kalau nak kerja di commercial banks..  tak perlu cfa..  diorang bukan buat full-fledged corporate finance and advisory..
kalau nak kerja di investment/merchant banks..  tak perlu cfa, tapi cfa membantu..

my point is that.. kalau nak kerja di investment/merchant banks..  tak perlu cfa..  kerja kat big audit firms dalam 2-3 tahun, sure senang nak dapat kerja di banks..  pergi check those yang kerja kat section corporate finance, capital markets, etc..  rata-rata semua ex-audit firms..

rasanya you tak faham pasal acca sangat ni..  acca ni ada banyak parts..  lulus certain parts adalah equal lulus sijil/diploma/ijazah..  at any point, with few years experience in audit firms in your resume, anytime pun boleh apply kerja di sana..
dan kalau lulus sepenuhnya, barulah qualify as taraf professional..  tapi, tetap mesti ada minimum 3 tahun pengalaman bekerja in accounting/auditing ..

once dah lulus full acca.. ada 3 tahun pengalaman bekerja..  you can even straight away be the boss of all those cfa yang bekerja di banks..  so, agak sendiri lah berapa gaji..

senang cerita la..  acca is a professional course, recognised internationally..  bukan senang nak lulus semua parts..  is it any wonder ramai yang takut nak ambik sampai habis lalu tukar arah?  cfa, cfp, etc..  ambik batu, baling ke every  corner..  tengok berapa ramai cfa, cfp, etc kat sana..
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Post time 22-6-2006 10:01 PM | Show all posts
patut ke amik acca part 1 dulu atau amik lcci dulu ?bukan apa step by step nak keje kerani akaun dulu ke sambil amik acca part 2 dan 3.so, ade experience keje beb.korang tau dak mana2 audit firm kat penang especially seberang perai. thank.
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