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Originally posted by Greenbottle3 at 12-1-2006 07:10 PM
lukisan controversi??
that reminds me... here are some pics from Malaysian open 2005 Balai seni lukis negara Disember 2005 lepas...i can't say i understand or know how to appreciate current art ...
Sorry sebab ambil masa utk balas mengenai ini. I tak berapa suka paksa diri utk berbuat sesuatu. Sejak kecil memang I byk buat sesuatu tanpa paksaan.
Mengenai karya Nirmala Shamughalingham itu... ia dipamerkan dlm Side By Side Exhibition |
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madam fleu..
saya dah masuk web site zulkifli yudoff tu tapi banyak tempat eg link galleri hanya ada 'image not on display' atau site under construction saja eg catatan zulkifli yusoff??
boleh cik fleu terangkan sikit bagaimana pandangan anda pasal porno berbanding erotic art?
mengapa japenese shunga porno dan bukan erotic art?
dan bagaimana pula dengan art atau karya2 literature yg suatu ketika dulu di anggap porno sekarang di anggap art?
ada satu definasi ponro....if a picture can cause reverand /father John a hard on..then it must be porn....masalah definasi ni ia lah kalau father john dah umur 80 tengok porn pun dia tak naik lagi..so apa kah ini dah jadi art? heh heh heh... |
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En GB
Website tersebut belum sempurna lagi. Sepatutnya I yg letak gambar2 dlm galeri tu... maleh sikit... lagi pun I dah lupa link galeri private prof Zul, beliau dah registered-kan I utk masuk dlm tu. Hari Khamis ni I akan jumpa beliau.
Mengenai Erotic Art...
I tak berapa arif la... mungkin sebab I dlm bidang pendidikan, I rasa tak penting utk I ambil tahu he he he... Mungkin en GB boleh kongsi sedikit ilmu.
Setiap org mempunyai definisi seni yg berbeza... Bagi I...
- Seni itu suatu kebenaran, keindahan dan kebaikan yang mengandungi ciri2 estetika, etika dan logika.
- Seni adalah suatu ciptaan yang indah yang melibatkan kemahiran, pengetahuan dan pengalaman.
- Seni adalah tatacara hubungan manusia dengan bentuk2 yang menyenangkan.
- Seni adalah evalutif konsep tentang keindahan, keseronokan dan penikmatan.
My lecturer ada bercerita ttg institusi seni di Indonesia yg sgt berbeza dr Malaysia. Mereka ada kelas lakaran/catan figura yg model porno menjadi subjek. Dlm kelas mereka boleh buat apa shj...letak kaki atas meja... berkarya di luar... tak mandi seminggu...dgn keadaan diri tidak terurus...
So, dr sini kita boleh lihat bhw erotic art dan porno adalah satu budaya asing dlm masyarakat Malaysia.
I fikir la en GB...
Dalam aliran2 seni Barat, India, China, Islam dsb terdapat faktor2 yang mempengaruhi wujudnya stail atau aliran2 tersebut. Faktor nafsu & seks tidak terkecuali. |
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Hello Fluerza, Seribulan,Greenbottle and others. Greenbottle's experience and addiction fascinate me. Wow! I like the travel part best. I enjoy going to museums too. So, Greenbottle has visited all the Met museums! Nice eh? This is what my 4 year old boy said when we were in NY Met Museum of Arts," Wow! When I have a lot of money, I want to buy this house!" :lol
The guard there looked at him and said," You sure have good taste!'
I paint too sometimes, just as a hobby. My paintings worth nothing.:lol |
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Macam Hindu temple di India banyak erotic arts,kan...Macam saya yg. ada anak ni ngeri juga nak pergi tengok. Pergi ke museum2 di Southern Thailand last August pun jenuh pekup mulut anak lelaki 4 th. tu. Banyak betul Lingga d an yoni. Banyak kali dia jerit," Look daddy, more koxx" "There, that's a big,humungas one!" Nasib baik dalam Melayu, Siam tak faham. Kalau tak jenuh malu Mak Belanga suami isteri.:malu:
[ Last edited by belanga at 17-2-2006 06:49 AM ] |
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Belanga;
...visited all the Met museums! Nice eh? This is what my 4 year old boy said when we were in NY Met Museum of Arts," Wow! When I have a lot of money, I want to buy this house!"
That's the best quote I've heard in YEARS!!
You have a very intelligent boy and I hope he will be a great man someday!
you mentioned museums in southern thailand that have erotic sculptures linga etc?...where is that? |
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Yeah, my 4 year old is cute and funny. All he does all day,other than playing is drawing. Would u be interested in buying some of his work? :cak:
Linga and Yoni? Plenty...come to my state,Kedah! Lembah Bujang museum houses artifacts found at archeological sites in the surrounding areas.
In South Thailand u can see them at museums in Nakhon Sithammarat and Songkhla. Gees...I should have taken some pictures!
My son just asked when are we going to Museum of Natural History again.
He is dinosaurs addict, aspiring to be a paleontologist.:lol |
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GB, u could be a millionaire someday just by auctioning your collection at Cristies! Who knows!:bgrin: |
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aduuuh madam periuk...maaf belanga..
koleksi saya tu hobi main2 saja... tak dak harga...tapi ms fleurzsa ada janji nak sketch seluar dalam dia bagi kat saya...kalau dapat nanti saya akan lelong di eBay...mungkin saya boleh jadi jutawan!!!
ok...one day i'll try to visit the museum in kedah... pasal southern thailand tu kena pass dulu...sekarang tak berapa selamat...
but next week i'll be off to bangkok again, and then drive up to nong kai near laos border... i may cross over to vientiene for a quick visit...not sure if there are any good museums in those places...with or without linga.... |
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Eh, mana la tahu, suatu hari pelukis2 tu jadi terkenal, maka lukisan2 lamanya tu menjadi harga:cak: u never know! Life is like a box of chocolate! :bgrin:
Bahaya apa pula? Kitorang anak beranak baru je drove around southern Thailand August lepas 2 minggu, masuk Siam ikut Wang Klian, terus ke Satun, Trang, Krabi, Nakhon Sithammarat,Patthalung, Songkla dan Haatyai. Masuk balik ikut BKHitam. No problem.
YG. bahaya kawasan timur dan ke bawah sikit, province Pattani, Yala dan Narathiwat.
I can't stand Bangkok's traffic and pollution.Plus, it's so darn ugly except for the palace and wats. Was there and the surrounding areas last Julai for 2 weeks. Wow, u are going to drive up to Nong Khai? Please let me know what's driving situation is like in Northern Thailand. I have never been there. My husband has but that was ages ago when he was young, free and single. We plan to travel around south east asia once we move to Thailand/M'sia this September.
I'm sure you'll find something something interesting in Nongkhai and Vientienne. So, are u flying, or driving to Vientienne?
Do u like Balinese painting? A few weeks back I took a picture of a painting of a Balinese Barongan dancer(the mask) at the Indonesian consulate. Wanna see the picture? |
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puan belanga...
noted on that...about travel in southern thailand...
pasal balinese paintings...saya ada buat satu posting tak berapa lama dulu pasal le mayeur galleri di bali...ada lah kat earlier pages in this thread somewhere...
i love paintings, period.tak kira la bali ke, western ke, eastern ke atau yg kanak2 lukis ke...as long as they are good...the only problem is 'good' is subjective...
yes, by all means please do post any paintings in this thread all you want...i'd be very keen to see your own paintings (you said you do a bit of paintings...) or your boy's painting..or any paintings that you like....and this invitation applies to everybody who visit this thread...
so sekarang puan belanga anak beranak dok di mana kalau tidak di malaysia?... |
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Originally posted by belanga at 17-2-2006 06:42 AM
Hello Fluerza, Seribulan,Greenbottle and others.
 hiya, pot.. baru leh balas balik...nanti kale sempat saya
kasik lagik gambar2 mengenai tempat yg agak berseni...masalahnya
kale kena scan...yg susah sket...kale kamera henpon tu senang sket... |
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Originally posted by belanga at 17-2-2006 06:42 AM
Hello Fluerza, Seribulan,Greenbottle and others. Greenbottle's experience and addiction fascinate me. Wow! I like the travel part best. I enjoy going to museums too. So, Greenbottle has visited al ...
Hello pn belanga... I masih ingat yg puan kenal forum Cari melalui satu thread di board ini... he he he
Nak cerita pengalaman pertama I mengenai koleksi seni....
Semasa I dlm darjah 4... ada seorg rakan sekelas (Lina) yg mengumpul lukisan rakan2. Actually, lukisan warna pensel shj.
I serah lukisan I bersama seorg rakan lain. Lina masukkan lukisan I dlm koleksi beliau. Lukisan my friend beliau asingkan... my friend tanya Lina kenapa lukisannya diasingkan. Lina jawab... utk letak dlm koleksi yg lain.
Selepas itu Lina beritahu I bhw lukisan my friend itu tidak bagus. Semasa itu I tidak perasan pun samada lukisan my friend bagus atau tidak... I hanya fikir seronok sebab lukisan I dimasukkan dlm koleksi... he he he he
Kata org kalo dah jodoh tak ke mana...
Selepas SPM, my cousin beritahu I akan diterima belajar di ITM dlm apa2 course pun krn beliau terlibat dlm pemilihan pelajar. I tetarik juga dgn course Art n Design .... I nak jadi cikgu... so I tak applied...
Tiada siapa sangka I jadi cikgu Seni sebab I ni jarang tunjuk bakat melukis.... Ramai yg sangka I jadi cikgu B Inggeris
Actually, dua2 I tak mahir... Seni & B Inggeris ... hentam shj...he he eh eh he |
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Originally posted by belanga at 17-2-2006 06:48 AM
Macam Hindu temple di India banyak erotic arts,kan...Macam saya yg. ada anak ni ngeri juga nak pergi tengok. Pergi ke museum2 di Southern Thailand last August pun jenuh pekup mulut anak lelaki 4 t ...
Yup, I ada belajar ttg Seni India. Arca2 yg berbentuk erotic mempunyai perlambangan keagamaan dan dewa2. Lambang kesuburan.. lambang percintaan... lambang kehidupan...dsb |
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Originally posted by Greenbottle3 at 18-2-2006 03:22 AM
aduuuh madam periuk...maaf belanga..
koleksi saya tu hobi main2 saja... tak dak harga...tapi ms fleurzsa ada janji nak sketch seluar dalam dia bagi kat saya...kalau dapat nanti saya akan lelong ...
hmmm pn Belanga... nanti I paste painting baju dlm tersebut. En GB yg tak mahu terima... I senang shj.. tak mahu terima I buat koleksi sendiri he he he he... |
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Originally posted by fleurzsa at 20-2-2006 02:49 AM
Hello pn belanga... I masih ingat yg puan kenal forum Cari melalui satu thread di board ini... he he he
Nak cerita pengalaman pertama I mengenai koleksi seni....
Semasa I dlm darjah 4... ...
:lol Ingat lagi kamu ya? Betul, betul, masa tu saya tengah cari info tentang permainan tradisi kanak2 Melayu kalau tak silip. Suami saya cadangan board ni,dia pun terjumpa je kut...dia yg. sign up untuk saya. Saya pakai nick Pipit.
Selepas tu rasa cam tak gemor je 'Pipit ' nih. tukar nick.
Punya la try nama memacam yg. elok2 la..semua orang dah ambil. Naik meluat saya tpyed 'Belanga ' terus dapat. Kekal sehingga sekarang walaupun semakin kurang glemor dari 'Pipit. Hotmail pun cam tu juga..pilih,punya pilh semua dah orang ambil. Teringat Sejarah Melayu...letak" Muntahlembu" terus dapat. :lol
Jadi sekarang Fluerza cikgu Seni la ya? Amboi merendah diri sangat pula Cik adik ni. Saya ni tak ada formal background dalam seni langsung. Cuma minat saja. Dulu masa sekolah keraplah dapat naik pentas ambil hadiah dalam m/pelajaran lukisan dari Sultanah Kedah. Kira bakat tu ada la juga,'katanya', tapi yg. masa SPM tak ambil lukisan pulak. Entah cemana. Kekadang ada juga rasa kesal kenapa saya tak pernah belajar tentang seni secara formal kat u. Tentu seronok. Sekarang dah terlambat.
Nak sekolah balik pun, tanggungjawab terhadap anak2 dan rumahtangga banyak. Dapat borak dengan orang2 seni kat sini pun jadilah.
Ish, tak payah lah berpuan2 ni atau pun memang adat di bod ni ke ? Nampaknya saya paling senior, kalau tak berpuan pun tak apa. Nak panggil kak pun boleh, nak panggil nama saja pun boleh...tak kisah. |
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Originally posted by fleurzsa at 20-2-2006 03:04 AM
hmmm pn Belanga... nanti I paste painting baju dlm tersebut. En GB yg tak mahu terima... I senang shj.. tak mahu terima I buat koleksi sendiri he he he he...
Sila,sila....dia tak mahu, bagi sini!:bgrin: |
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Originally posted by seribulan at 18-2-2006 08:40 PM
hiya, pot.. baru leh balas balik...nanti kale sempat saya
kasik lagik gambar2 mengenai tempat yg agak berseni...masalahnya
kale kena scan...yg susah sket...kale kamera henpon tu senang sket...
Tapi yg. tak best tentang camera h/p ni kualiti kurang. Tapi daripada tak ada langsung, kira ok la...sila post mari sini. |
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Khas utk en GB
I ambil gambar sketchbook prof Zulkifli Yusoff... sebab masa tu beliau tak ada I snapped cover dan m/s pertama je... he he he he
[ Last edited by fleurzsa at 20-2-2006 03:52 AM ] |
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Saya ni tak tahu nak menilai lukisan abstract. Cuba cerita sikit Fluerza tentang lukisan abstract. Lukisan sebegini biasanya ada makna2 yg. tersembunyi di sebalik tu ataupun terletaklah kepada orang yg. melihat nak fikir sendiri apa maksud/mesej yg. nak disampaikan? |
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Post time 11-2-2006 11:36 AM
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Post time 18-2-2006 08:40 PM
