Wives of Prophet Muhammad

Ahem... God created one man and one women... and they had childrens... and they all had big family incest party... you know father with daughter, mother with son, brother with sister and junk like that... This incesterous origin of human race, is not the idea of Athiest but of Jews which was copied by Christian and Muslims. Talk about polygamy and sin... ha.
Abraham married his half-sister and had affiair with his maid. Lot raped by his 2 daughters... Judah had sex with Tamar, his daugther-in-law. Great family values. Not to mention Davids household affairs.

By the time of Jesus, the Jew were abit more educated and Jesus the Jew  seem to come clean... nearly except for minor controversy regarding his affair with Mary Magdelene.

Then comes Muhammad and turns the clock back.

FH3, you wrote all the above. Can you tell me, are you a Christian or not?

[ Last edited by KENNKID on 1-9-2004 at 11:08 AM ]

FaithHealer3

Originally posted by KENNKID at 2004-9-1 11:07 AM:
FH3, you wrote all the above. Can you tell me, are you a Christian or not?

[ Last edited by KENNKID on 1-9-2004 at 11:08 AM [ ...

i guess "or not" is the answer.

I was born & bred a Catholic, lets just say i have evolved.   :solute:

nightlord

Sorry I disagree with your comment abt Mary Magdalene.

If you proof , pls quote source. Secondly, as far as I have read, that is just conjecture for some guys who wondered why he had a female follower.

Nightlord

Originally posted by FaithHealer3 at 2004-9-1 02:10 PM:

i guess "or not" is the answer.

I was born & bred a Catholic, lets just say i have evolved.   :solute:

Meaning to say that you were a catholic christian but now still a christian but not a catholic, am I right?

vixen

He's agnostic/freethinker/humanist.Hope this answers.

[ Last edited by vixen on 2-9-2004 at 02:48 PM ]

wira_melayu

Originally posted by KENNKID at 2-9-2004 12:39 PM:


Meaning to say that you were a catholic christian but now still a christian but not a catholic, am I right?

:lebai:FH3 is infact confused with him/herself that's why he/she can't answer to you.

FaithHealer3

Originally posted by wira_melayu at 2004-9-2 11:42 PM:


:lebai:FH3 is infact confused with him/herself that's why he/she can't answer to you.

         :ketuk:
       :lebai:
Wira Melayu

Kennkid asked whether i am Christian or not. I already answered... "not" is the answer.

and Mr.Vixen gave a better picture of my views.

and my gender is male... hope removes some of your confusion.

wira_melayu

Originally posted by FaithHealer3 at 3-9-2004 12:59 AM:




         :ketuk:
       :lebai:
Wira Melayu

Kennkid asked whether i am Christian or not. I already answered... "not" is the answer.

and Mr.Vixen gave a bett ...

thanks for the reply.
Sorry if i overlook your earlier post.:hug:

SangSaka

Originally posted by Adm_Cheng_Ho at 16-7-2004 12:37 PM:
I thought Muhammad had 99 wives. He is short of 1 to make it 100 but that woman in the end didn't become his wife. I read it from Islamic prophets book when I'm in my primary.

Nope, that's not Nabi Muhammad SAW..... He is Nabi Sulaiman A.S.....

FaithHealer3

Here is a website with detail list of wives of Muhammad.

http://www.muslimhope.com/WhyDidMohammedGetSoManyWives.htm

sonny~~

no sweat pagan

its better to have legal wives than concubines, mistresses etc  

peace

FaithHealer3

Originally posted by sonny~~ at 28-10-2005 12:24 PM
no sweat pagan

its better to have legal wives than concubines, mistresses etc  

peace

pssst... He had concubines too.

sonny~~

Originally posted by FaithHealer3 at 28-10-2005 11:01 PM


pssst... He had concubines too.

no HARDproof means u're a liar  

peace

FaithHealer3

Originally posted by sonny~~ at 29-10-2005 08:46 AM


no HARDproof means u're a liar  

peace

Yo lazy Yahoodi. Why don't you read thru' the previous posts.. it's there.

here is an answer about concubines/slaves for sex from Islamic website


Question #10382: Ruling on having intercourse with a slave woman when one has a wife  

Question : Could you please clarify for me something that has been troubling me for a while. This concerns the right of a man to have sexual relations with slave girls. Is this so? If it is then is the man allowed to have relations with her as well his wife/wives. Also, is it true that a man can have sexual relations with any number of slave girls and with their own wife/wives also? I have read that Hazrat Ali had 17 slave girls and Hazrat Umar also had many. Surely if a man were allowed this freedom then this could lead to neglecting the wife's needs. Could you also tell clarify wether the wife has got any say in this matter.

Answer : Praise be to Allaah.   

Islam allows a man to have intercourse with his slave woman, whether he has a wife or wives or he is not married.
A slave woman with whom a man has intercourse is known as a sariyyah (concubine) from the word sirr, which means marriage. This is indicated by the Qur抋an and Sunnah, and this was done by the Prophets. Ibraaheem (peace be upon him) took Haajar as a concubine and she bore him Ismaa抏el (may peace be upon them all).

Our Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) also did that, as did the Sahaabah, the righteous and the scholars. The scholars are unanimously agreed on that and it is not permissible for anyone to regard it as haraam or to forbid it. Whoever regards that as haraam is a sinner who is going against the consensus of the scholars.

Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):
揂nd if you fear that you shall not be able to deal justly with the orphan girls then marry (other) women of your choice, two or three, or four; but if you fear that you shall not be able to deal justly (with them), then only one or (slaves) that your right hands possess. That is nearer to prevent you from doing injustice

sonny~~

not good enough pagan
what i wanna know is which koran verse that says mohammad has concubine  :hmm:

FaithHealer3

Originally posted by sonny~~ at 30-10-2005 06:45 AM
not good enough pagan
what i wanna know is which koran verse that says mohammad has concubine  :hmm:

Yo dumb Yahoodi..  didn't you read my reply to you.. its already in the cut&paste i gave you.. courtesy of www.islam-qa.com

Anyway, reread the cut&paste and pay attention to surah Al-Ahzaab Q33:50

sonny~~

Originally posted by FaithHealer3 at 30-10-2005 07:53 AM

Yo dumb Yahoodi..  didn't you read my reply to you.. its already in the cut&paste i gave you.. courtesy of www.islam-qa.com

Anyway, reread the cut&paste and pa ...

cut n paste the sura 'ere o piggy pagan  ;)

FaithHealer3

Originally posted by sonny~~ at 30-10-2005 08:25 AM
cut n paste the sura 'ere o piggy pagan  ;)

Oh sure.. o'lazy yahoodi.

cut&paste from www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/quran/033.qmt.html
033.050
YUSUFALI: O Prophet! We have made lawful to thee thy wives to whom thou hast paid their dowers; and those whom thy right hand possesses out of the prisoners of war whom Allah has assigned to thee; and daughters of thy paternal uncles and aunts, and daughters of thy maternal uncles and aunts, who migrated (from Makka) with thee; and any believing woman who dedicates her soul to the Prophet if the Prophet wishes to wed her;- this only for thee, and not for the Believers (at large); We know what We have appointed for them as to their wives and the captives whom their right hands possess;- in order that there should be no difficulty for thee. And Allah is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful.

cut&paste from www.islam-qa.com explains the meaning of the right hand possesses
The phrase 揳nd those (slaves) whom your right hand possesses

sonny~~

Originally posted by FaithHealer3 at 31-10-2005 03:47 AM


Oh sure.. o'lazy yahoodi.

cut&paste from www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/quran/033.qmt.html
033.050
YUSUFALI: O Prophet! We have made lawful to thee thy wiv ...

as u can c piggy pagan, u're caught in ur own web of hatred against mohammad who has done u no wrong.  u drool over mohammad's wives n concubines n wotever.  but u're blind towards others' deeds. u're rotten to the core.  read wot me get from another forum  

peace

In all three Divine religions, concubines were allowed, but then gradually dispensed with.

The existence in Judaism and Christianity is evidenced in the link http://www.christiananswers.net/dictionary/concubine.html.

In Islam, a woman captured as bounty in a battle, could be taken as a slave, and used as a concubine. But, if she gave birth to a child from her master, she would be set free, and would become a part of society.

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wira_melayu

Originally posted by sonny~~ at 13-11-2005 05:11 PM


as u can c piggy pagan, u're caught in ur own web of hatred against mohammad who has done u no wrong.  u drool over mohammad's wives n concubines n wotever.  but u're blind towards others' deed ...

Read here about captives of war;

http://www.answering-christianity.com/right_hand_possession.htm

and remember it's only allowed during the transitional period.


Rayhana was a Jewish captive from the Quraiza tribe. Mohammed offered to make her a wife instead of a slave, but she decline and remained Jewish according to al-Tabari vol.8 p.39. See also al-Tabari vol.9 p.137. However, the source in al-Tabari vol.39 p.164-165 says Mohammed set her free and then married her.

Mary was a wife of the Holy Prophet according to Sahih Muslim vol.4 footnote p.2835. p.1351.Mary is said to have married the Prophet  and certainly everyone gave her the same title of respect as the Prophet's wives, 'Umm al Muminin' 'Mother of the Believers'.Certainly she wouldn't got the title if she was not Prophet Muhammad wife.It should be clear that Islam raised the status of slaves higher than that of free men in un-Islamic societies even by modern standards.The Prophet (SAW) elevated her status by marrying her, instead of making her his slave.