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mindpropeller

tafsir is different from translation mr propeller
i think u depend too much on logic
r u anti-hadith?
bronok Post at 7-9-2009 14:27

I think I know that.

I am not anti hadith. I just don't believe them. I wonder how on earth the muslims today could craft their religion out from those non sensible stories.

wlio_snr

and i wonder how you pray, fasting,zakat and base on what references

bronok

i bet mr propeller just pray in heart... (sembahyang dalam hati)
correct me if i am wrong

Bapa

bukan sahaja mindpropeller mempersoalkan hadis malah dia juga mempersoalkan AlQuran. jelas dia mempersoalkan pasal kiblat yang jelas Allah suruh hadap ke Masjidilharam.

wlio_snr

kumpulan atau pengikut ini yang hanya belandaskan dengan Al Quran hanya segelintir saje, tetapi kita harus berwaspada agar aqidah kita tak terpesong

pendakwa

I did not question Islam. I just have a different perspective regarding it. What's wrong with that?
mindpropeller Post at 7-9-2009 14:21

There's nothing wrong in having different perpspectives, but don't be too egoistic, claiming whatever you quote as the modern revolution of Islam. Musuh dalam selimut susah nak nampak...

pendakwa

and i wonder how you pray, fasting,zakat and base on what references
wlio_snr Post at 7-9-2009 14:59

dia guna buku nombor ekor kot....

pendakwa

I think I know that.

I am not anti hadith. I just don't believe them. I wonder how on earth the muslims today could craft their religion out from those non sensible stories.
mindpropeller Post at 7-9-2009 14:49

You are not anti but you didn't believe, what kind of language is this??? I also wonder how on earth people like you still exist?

mindpropeller

and i wonder how you pray, fasting,zakat and base on what references
wlio_snr Post at 7-9-2009 14:59

Zakat.

Do you know zakat is also not explained in the Quran even though it is considered one of the pillars of Islam? The Faraid which is more about family matter is clearly explained. But why not zakat which is supposed to be more of significant to the ummah? Our religious teachers tell us that we learn out the fullfilment and the practise of zakat today from the enlightenment of the devine books of hadith.

But behold, while there is nothing about zakat in the Quran, you shall confortable find something just like it in the Bible Leviticus 27:14-28. Just browse through http://www.ccel.org/bible/brenton/Leviticus/27.html. Look how close the similarity between the practice of Zakat in Islam and the "Zakat" of the Bible. Hasn't you feel the urge to ask your ustaz about it?

"Obeythose who ask no reward of you (for themselves), and who have themselvesreceived Guidance". - 36:21

mindpropeller

1743# bronok

No, not like that sir.

mindpropeller

1744# Bapa

I always believe in the Quran, the Book is sufficient for me to be in peace with God.

mindpropeller

kumpulan atau pengikut ini yang hanya belandaskan dengan Al Quran hanya segelintir saje, tetapi kita harus berwaspada agar aqidah kita tak terpesong
wlio_snr Post at 7-9-2009 16:12

Yup, take care dude!

mindpropeller

There's nothing wrong in having different perpspectives, but don't be too egoistic, claiming whatever you quote as the modern revolution of Islam. Musuh dalam selimut susah nak nampak...
pendakwa Post at 7-9-2009 16:13

I said nothing about modern revolution of Islam whatsoever. So, please be fair to me, sir.

wlio_snr

if the Quran is sufficient to you so be it.

Bapa

Mindpropeller:-

1. kamu bersolat atau tidak? kenapa tidak pernah solat?

Truth.8

Dear Gunblade712,

I think you are too fast in replying my points and it does not show that you really want to at least give yourself a chance to ponder them. So, no point debating like this. Tq
mindpropeller Post at 7-9-2009 13:50

yup, i agreed. gb always like that . he want to show he is hero

Gb pls try 2 debate in very professional manner ok.

Truth.8

I think I know that.

I am not anti hadith. I just don't believe them. I wonder how on earth the muslims today could craft their religion out from those non sensible stories.
mindpropeller Post at 7-9-2009 14:49

true. like Jews and Christians we have complete book Bible . why we need extra book to depend? if muslims need hadith, it show their faith in very shaky foundation. not only that, it contradict each other.

some muslims says this hadith cannot be use. for example the fish liver hadith.

wlio_snr

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gunblade712

true. like Jews and Christians we have complete book Bible . why we need extra book to depend? if muslims need hadith, it show their faith in very shaky foundation. not only that, it contradict each other.

some muslims says this hadith cannot be use. for example the fish liver hadith.

Truth.8 Post at 7-9-2009 18:13

your so-called "complete" book of the Bible ain't complete, son.

Your own Jesus Christ tells you to wait for another Comforter that will teach u ALL TRUTH.. that means that there are SOME TRUTH which is NOT in the Bible... 

gunblade712

yup, i agreed. gb always like that . he want to show he is hero

Gb pls try 2 debate in very professional manner ok.
Truth.8 Post at 7-9-2009 18:11

you don't have to be a snake and try to bite people around, mr Truth.8

WHICH part of MY POINT that is NOT PROFESSIONAL?

if you can't show it to me, that it would be best if YOU follow your own advice. 

Please debate in a professional manner, not like a generation of viper who took an oath to God but later on broke that same oath.