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[MERGED]-Debmey: SHOW PROOF THAT PROPHET MOHAMMAD IS A PAEDOPHILE?
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Reply #1647 Debmey's post
Debmey, looks like u r so paranoid here. Anyway thanks for pushing up this thread. Clearly u r stucked here as usual. People who have brain can see what is real and what is false.
cheers |
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Thank you for keeping up this thread for me.
The hadiths i posted showed that Mohd married aisha when she was only 6 years old and he had sex with her when she was only 9 years old. Yours don't show any specific age at all, only wild claims of her gae.
cheers and thanks again, I wouldn't have done it w/o you. |
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nope, the meaning of consumation can only mean having sexual intercourse in both english and especially in arabic. There is no other meanings under both languages. |
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Reply #20 Oreng's post
Beautiful and precise explanation. I was about to write the same.  |
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Reply #21 Debmey's post
Originally posted by Debmey at 7-6-2007 05:18 PM
nope, the meaning of consumation can only mean having sexual intercourse in both english and especially in arabic. There is no other meanings under both languages.
wrong again, but you insisted the meaning according to your poor understanding of your referred translation of Arabic language.
[ Last edited by mnm77 at 7-6-2007 05:35 PM ] |
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Reply #1649 Debmey's post
U really believe in specific and explicit details debmey ?  |
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Originally posted by Debmey at 6-6-2007 06:23 PM
Sahih Bukhari Volume 7, Book 62, Number 64
Narrated 'Aisha:
that the Prophet married her when she was six years old and he consummated his marriage when she was nine years old, and then she remained with him for nine years (i.e., till his death).
consummation
n.- The act of consummating; a fulfillment.
- An ultimate goal or end.
Consummate
To complete, such as to consummatea business arrangement, contract, or other happening. For example, theconsummation of a merger of two companies is when it finally takes place
It can also mean sex, but wrong to say only sex
http://www.answers.com/consummation
[ Last edited by mnm77 at 7-6-2007 05:37 PM ] |
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exactly, so when applied to a marriage, its means having sex.
you don't marry a woman just to have her live in a house do you? what signifies a marriage is the act of union through sex and that is exactly what Mohd did to aisha. he didn't just admire her and pet her head, he screwed her. That makes mohd a paedophile. if you are so ashame of what mohd did, you might as well quit islam.
peace |
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Reply #25 Debmey's post
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I thought u r so ashamed of urself here. U r ashamed to reveal ur sect in christianity. Then how could you ask people to quit Islam ? I challenge you to reveal ur sect openly here if u r not ashamed. |
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Originally posted by Debmey at 7-6-2007 06:11 PM
exactly, so when applied to a marriage, its means having sex.
you don't marry a woman just to have her live in a house do you? what signifies a marriage is the act of union through sex and that ...
In Islam, marriage is NOT only about SEX. It about responsibility of looking after and having good conduct of merging two families. Yes, sex is allowed inside marriage (contract) but is it not the only purpose of marriage.
Probably in your opinion, Marriage = Sex and Islam promote Sex
Islam promote the marriage as a noble act to fulfil the human nature.
How about sex outside marriage, who will take care the responsibility?? Why don't you study about the consequences of sex outside marriage?
I have been witnessing many problems due to sex outside marriage, sadly occur to Muslims as well... but in the west is normal. Child will be deprived of the love they should get from their parents.....
[ Last edited by mnm77 at 7-6-2007 06:25 PM ] |
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in islam, consumation of marriage means having sex.
btw, sex is allowed outside of marriage too in islam. don't you know that muslims are taught to have sex with captive women or slaves in order to punish the enemies of allah? |
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i believe we understand what is written, none of your hadiths or suras contradicted the hadith record that aisha was only 9 years old when mohd had sex with her.
what is there to hide my fren? |
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Reply #28 Debmey's post
Originally posted by Debmey at 7-6-2007 06:27 PM
in islam, consumation of marriage means having sex.
btw, sex is allowed outside of marriage too in islam. don't you knowthat muslims are taught to have sex with captive women or slaves inorder to punish the enemies of allah?
Again you never learn. Please read carefully what consummation means (previous post)
Explaning to you is the same as talking to someone who does not want to listen. I don't want to waste my time like this anymore....
Muslims WERE NOT taught to have sex with captive women or slaves. It was the privillage in certain circumstances, and nowadays we don't have such correct definition of captive women or slaves as mentioned in Quran.
Even if it is allowed, the the reponsibility of marriage will be still required for those who posses the captive women and slaves (if there are such these days)
[ Last edited by mnm77 at 7-6-2007 06:37 PM ] |
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Reply #1651 Debmey's post
Then why u worship jesus when jesus didnt said worship me ?
Debmey, u r clearly stucked with no new idea here. U failed to refute the hadiths which contradict aisya's age. |
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Hmmm.......... you seem so desperately trying to run away from the issue.
Why are you so ashamed of Mohd's paedophilia? so much so that you need to deny the hadiths and claim they are contradictory on Aisha's age? even when there is absilutely no evidence to support that claim? |
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Hmmm.......... you seem so desperately trying to run away from the issue.
Why are you so ashamed of Mohd's paedophilia? so much so that you need to deny the hadiths and claim they are contradictory on Aisha's age? even when there is absilutely no evidence to support that claim? |
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Originally posted by Debmey at 7-6-2007 06:27 PM
in islam, consumation of marriage means having sex. |
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and where do you get the idea that consumation of marriage means living in a house?
woamn married to house? if no house means no marraige? silly right? |
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Reply #1654 Debmey's post
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See, when i ask u a question u couldnt answer. Haha. I have shown hadiths which contradicts aisya's age. Im proud of my Prophet. U are the one who are so ashamed to tell ur sect here. Even when i challenge u, still u ashamed. Pathetic religion ashamed to tell. |
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And I have shown you that none of the hadiths you have shown ever said anything about Aisha's age specifically. all you did was to pick vague verses and imply baseless assumptions about her age that you simply cannot back up.
You can't even provide any verifiable links to back up your claims.
This is what real evidence look like.
Sahih Muslim Book 008, Number 3310:
'A'isha (Allah be pleased with her) reported: Allah's Apostle (may peace be upon him) married me when I was six years old, and I was admitted to his house when I was nine years old.
Sahih Bukhari Volume 7, Book 62, Number 64
Narrated 'Aisha:
that the Prophet married her when she was six years old and he consummated his marriage when she was nine years old, and then she remained with him for nine years (i.e., till his death).
Sahih Bukhari Volume 7, Book 62, Number 65
Narrated 'Aisha:
that the Prophet married her when she was six years old and he consummated his marriage when she was nine years old. Hisham said: I have been informed that 'Aisha remained with the Prophet for nine years (i.e. till his death)." what you know of the Quran (by heart)' Sahih Bukhari Volume 7, Book 62, Number 88 |
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Post time 7-6-2007 05:10 PM
