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mcm ni punya harga, baik beli myvi se tu je haa.. kalau tak pun, tambah je around 20k, dah dapat perdana tu haa.. |
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CBU. so harga keteta + tax 80% + duti ekses. tu pasal mahal. P2 pun aku rasa tak confident nak jual. tuh yang target 200 unit je sebulan.
kalu buat kat kilang produa maybe murah. atau mungkin produa tak tau nak pasang kereta nih. tu yg import je.
logo P2 tuh special order jugak kut dari jepun. |
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90k baik amik grand lavina... top up sket jer lgi |
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nautica tu mmg smaller/sporty version of Rush...aku masuk rush tu mcm masuk unser. base dia pun guna avanza.
alah...korg ni, kalau la nautica tu letak logo toyota ke apa2 keta oversi, takde la korg2 komplen sgt kan? lagi sanggup beli Rush yg made in indon rather than nautica cbu tapi guna logo keta msia hihi |
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Reply #111 mala0n's post
nautica tu pun guna base avanza jugakkk..dah tu kena potong ekor pulak tu...
tak kiralah rush tu made in zimbabwe atau papua new guinea sekalipun, tapi dengan RM90K++ worth dr segi practicality. rush 7 seater & rear wheel drive yg pastinya lebih jimat petrol dari nautica (yg entah bila nak guna 4x4 dia tu).
apa guna beli P2 yg dah sah2 rega & interest rate lebih mahal?
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Reply #112 volvomania's post
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Rush tu body dier monocoque construction built on ladder frame chassis. Engine dier plak longitudinally mounted memacu tayar belakang lebih kurang kete Volvo ko jugak. Rear suspension pon live axle mcm keter KE 30...... |
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Chassis hybrid ladder frame/monocoque NAutica
Rear suspension setup
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RM90 ribu - baik beli kereta lain. Kereta local sampai harga mcm tu. BAIK TAK PAYAHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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NI ader artikel tentang live rear axle aku amik dari http://home.comcast.net/~eliot_www/suvsuck.html
High unsprung weight and live axles
A live axle is possibly the simplest and crudest way possible to connect two wheels to a body. On a driven axle it looks like a dumbell with the weight in the middle. Some nickname it the "pumpkin". You see it on most trucks and SUVs in the rear and sometimes in the front. The live axle is almost extinct in cars today, even four wheel drive ones. Why is the live axle evil? The more obvious reason is that shock that is encountered on one side is faithfully transmitted to the other. Live axled vehicles tend to be more easily upset if they hit a bump while turning.
The less well known reason, however, is that a live axle carries with it a large amount of unsprung weight. Unsprung weight is the portion of the vehicle that is not sitting on top of the suspension. Examples of unsprung components are the wheels, tires and brakes. Unsprung weight is a highly undesirable attribute in suspension design, because the more inertia the unsprung components have, the less inertia the sprung masses have to remain unperturbed over a bump. This means that with less unsprung weight the suspension is able to react faster to bumps rather than simply transmitting the shock into the cabin.
The ratio of sprung to unsprung weight is a key determining factor in how smoothly a car rides. Remember the old wisdom of how a heavier car rides better than a lighter car? The truth is that the heavier car most likely has a higher sprung to unsprung weight ratio than the lighter car. This also means that lighter cars can be made to ride better than heavier cars if they keep their unsprung weight down. And it also explains why these heavy SUVs still ride so roughly while handling so poorly compared to cars much lighter than them. They have too much unsprung weight, much of it comes from using antiquated live axles.
Compared to the modern independent suspension, a live axle has the entire differential assembly, protective casing and all final driveshafts as unsprung masses while the main driveshaft is partially sprung. All the variations of modern independent suspension only have the final driveshafts partially unsprung. The main driveshaft(s) and differential assemblies are all part of the sprung masses attached to the body. Thus one can see how much of an unsprung weight penalty there is by using a live axle.
A high performance car with measures taken to reduce unsprung weight can trade the gains in ride quality for stiffer suspension. Designers of high performance cars go to extreme lengths to reduce unsprung weight. In the Porsche 911 turbo for example, not only are the wheels made of lightweight alloy, the spokes are also hollowed out. All this in a fanatical attempt to reduce unsprung weight. Some higher priced cars have also introduced suspension components that are made of aluminum instead of steel. The aforementioned Porsche, the Audi A4 and the BMW 5 series are some examples.
With low unsprung weight one has a car capable of sizzling handling while riding reasonably. Conversely, a SUV with its high unsprung weight has to have what little handling sacrificed for a tolerable ride. The use of live axles and leaf springs can be traced back to at least 50 years ago, while the use of coil springs can be found in railroad cars dating back to the 19th century. Paying substantial money today for such inferior and crude technology is analogous to paying $3,000 for a PC powered by a 80286 CPU today. |
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Originally posted by Bell at 13-5-2008 07:58 AM 
RM90 ribu - baik beli kereta lain. Kereta local sampai harga mcm tu. BAIK TAK PAYAHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
tu ah... baik amik honda city/toyota vios
tambah 4K dah leh dapat jazz idsi... |
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syok sendiri!!! mahal giler.. |
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Second Nationqal car..????
My foot!!! |
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Reply #120 volvomania's post
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Volvo dulu pon pakai chassis camni kan tapi skrg sume dah monocoque pacuan depan/4wd. Sekarang tak banyak kenderaan penumpang pakai dah..... chasis old skool ni driving dynamic hancuss.... |
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Originally posted by altimi at 13-5-2008 03:42 PM 
Volvo dulu pon pakai chassis camni kan tapi skrg sume dah monocoque pacuan depan/4wd. Sekarang tak banyak kenderaan penumpang pakai dah..... chasis old skool ni driving dynamic hancuss....
heheheh...tak semua chasis olskool driving dynamic hancusss...sebenarnya much better kerana weight distribution rendah kat bawah...salah tuu...
dan tak semua monocoque cassis ada handling yg dynamic. jepun buat propaganda je tuu..krisis besi la katakan...
keta sekarang semua pakai monocoque chassis sebab dah front wheel drive. jimat besi..
keta jepun mana yg driving dynamic bagus?? citer sket?.. |
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Reply #124 volvomania's post
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