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Post time 4-5-2006 02:43 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by greekgod at 4-5-2006 11:49 AM




You are challenging me to give ONE name for first flight to ever board to the airport...

I will give you two, instead!

http://www.jordanembassyus.org/121298002,htm.htm



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good job GG....may Allah bless you...:hatdown:
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Post time 5-5-2006 01:58 AM | Show all posts
Originally posted by anti_aktivis at 4-5-2006 02:35 PM


I believe perel still too young , Malam pun mimpi kluar air kecil. Not baligh yet. So pls bare with him.


I like you sense of humour,i guess Mr Perel will go hiding again.
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Post time 5-5-2006 02:51 AM | Show all posts
Originally posted by wira_melayu at 4-5-2006 03:19 AM
He lived in Lebanon because he is a Lebanese you silly.Moreover Hobeika was assigned as a liasion officer with the IDF before the 1982 invasion of Lebanon don't you know that?He became Syrian ally to protect his homeland against invaders  but what puzzle me is that Hobeika died one day after saying he was ready to testify in a crimes against humanity case brought by Palestinians in Belgium against Ariel Sharon. Could the assassination be a cover-up on behalf of Sharon?

I will repeat slowly: Hobeika commited massacre and lived free in Syria controlled Lebanon for 18 years!!! Murderer lived free in Lebanon together with Hizballah. And during all that time no one thought to judge him for this murder. Then Syria desided to murder Hobeika because it did not look good that this man freely lives in Lebanon.

This is the most stupidiest reply i ever faced.You sounds very childish when you can't proves your point

No, it's an illustration of your childish argumentation.

Where's the proofs  that Israel offers Jerusalem ?

Jerusalem

Both sides accepted in principle the Clinton suggestion of having a Palestinian sovereignty over Arab neighborhoods and an Israeli sovereignty over Jewish neighborhoods in Jerusalem. Both sides favored the idea of an open city. The Israeli side accepted that Jerusalem would be the capital of the two states: Yerushalaim, capital of Israel and Al-Quds, capital of the state of Palestine. Both parties accepted the principle of respective control over each side's respective holy sites. Israel's sovereignty over the Western Wall would be recognized although there remained a dispute regarding the delineation of the area covered by the Western Wall and especially the link to what is referred to in Clinton's ideas as the space sacred to Judaism of which it is part. Both sides agreed that the question of Haram al-Sharif/Temple Mount has not been resolved.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taba_summit

http://www.pac-usa.org/phr_110300.htm

Yawn. Palestinians are killed when they join fire exchanges.

  


Much of the fences were build inside Palestinian lands so it is illegal,it wouldn't be an issue if the fences were built inside Israeli lands.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/3879057.stm

I said bring international rule. geneva conventions something that states that building fence is illegal. There is no such law.

greekgod,

"The airport has no air traffic control systems yet and lacks other operational equipment, some of which is being held by Israel until the Palestinians pay storage fees that are due."

It is not finished, as I said. You can land plane even on grass if you really wish, but it's not airport.  Look at pic of airport after "destruction":



Airport building are untouched, damage is some half km from airport.

So stot twisting subject. Although I understand, that runaway of not finished airport of your Arab masters  is more important for you than lives of hundreds of thousands people that are killed by Islamic terrroists in Sudan, Algeria, Israel, Iraq, Kashmir, Philippines, East Timot, Europe, USA...
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Post time 5-5-2006 03:58 AM | Show all posts
Originally posted by Nick_Perelman at 5-5-2006 02:51 AM

I will repeat slowly: Hobeika commited massacre and lived free in Syria controlled Lebanon for 18 years!!! Murderer lived free in Lebanon together with Hizballah. And during all that time no one thought to judge him for this murder. Then Syria desided to murder Hobeika because it did not look good that this man freely lives in Lebanon.


Hobeika commited massacre when he was an IDF liason officer before the invasion,he died one day after saying he was ready to testify in a crimes against humanity case brought by Palestinians in Belgium against Ariel Sharon.

Jerusalem

Both sides accepted in principle the Clinton suggestion of having a Palestinian sovereignty over Arab neighborhoods and an Israeli sovereignty over Jewish neighborhoods in Jerusalem. Both sides favored the idea of an open city. The Israeli side accepted that Jerusalem would be the capital of the two states: Yerushalaim, capital of Israel and Al-Quds, capital of the state of Palestine. Both parties accepted the principle of respective control over each side's respective holy sites. Israel's sovereignty over the Western Wall would be recognized although there remained a dispute regarding the delineation of the area covered by the Western Wall and especially the link to what is referred to in Clinton's ideas as the space sacred to Judaism of which it is part. Both sides agreed that the question of Haram al-Sharif/Temple Mount has not been resolved.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taba_summit
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Israel has achieved nearly all its goals but yet to  resolve the security issues in and surround Jerusalem and that's the reason why i say that Israel half heartedly offering half Jerusalem to the Palestinian.Have they really endorse it?Will foreign embassies to Palestine be allowed to have their offices in Jerusalem? Will the Israeli army have the right to enter the area?Will the Israel apologise for their crimes against Palestinian?What the Palestinian main concern is Haram al-Sharif,will Israel agree to return  Haram al Sharif under Palestine Jerusalem?

Yawn. Palestinians are killed when they join fire exchanges.


Palestinian children and babies are killed even when they are sleeping in their homes.Are you defending child killers?

I said bring international rule. geneva conventions something that states that building fence is illegal. There is no such law.


I've already provide you with solid truth.Building fences inside Palestine territory is illegal as per ICJ ruling.
Did you mean building fences inside someone else territory is legal?Did you mean stealing someone else land is legal?Which law says that?



So stot twisting subject. Although I understand, that runaway of not finished airport of your Arab masters  is more important for you than lives of hundreds of thousands people that are killed by Islamic terrroists in Sudan, Algeria, Israel, Iraq, Kashmir, Philippines, East Timot, Europe, USA...


You should look at the number of your own kind wrongdoings when they slaughtered MILLION  and still counting in Iran,Afghanistan,Phillipines,Libya,Algeria,Tunisia,Morroco,Western Sahara,Indonesia,Palestine,Syria,Lebanon,Jordan and many many more
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Post time 5-5-2006 06:16 AM | Show all posts
Originally posted by wira_melayu at 5-5-2006 03:58 AM
Hobeika commited massacre when he was an IDF liason officer before the invasion,he died one day after saying he was ready to testify in a crimes against humanity case brought by Palestinians in Belgium against Ariel Sharon.

You are still dodging my question. Why murderer Hobeika was not arrested, why he was not even investigated during 18 years??? Instead they put him a MINISTER!!! They made from this murderer a minister!!! Can you explain why they made him a minister???

And he never was in IDF. If he was IDF agent he would be tortured and killed in Beirut. But instead he became a minister.  Concerning "one day". You are watching too much B movies. Planning such kind of operation takes MONTHES. And what he could tell in court? I'm a good guy, while Ariel Sharon used Yuri's mind control to make me murder Palestinians? LOL

Israel has achieved nearly all its goals but yet to  resolve the security issues in and surround Jerusalem and that's the reason why i say that Israel half heartedly offering half Jerusalem to the Palestinian.Have they really endorse it?Will foreign embassies to Palestine be allowed to have their offices in Jerusalem? Will the Israeli army have the right to enter the area?Will the Israel apologise for their crimes against Palestinian?What the Palestinian main concern is Haram al-Sharif,will Israel agree to return  Haram al Sharif under Palestine Jerusalem?

Of course would be embasies and so on. As you can see: Israel gave to Palestinians and authonomy, in return they started blowing buses. Israel offered them a state with Jerusalem as capital, in return they opened a war.

Look at Russia - despite they have a hugest territory they are not ready to return 4 tiny island to Japanese. Britain is not ready to give stinky North Ireland. Spain is not read to kive some rock to Basks. On the other hand tiny Israel was ready to split it's own capital on half but still it is not enough!

Palestinian children and babies are killed even when they are sleeping in their homes.Are you defending child killers?

It happaned very very rarely, because territorists use them as human shileds. Many times when Israel teried to kill terrorist they survived because Israel used not enough big bomb to not kill civilians around.

Palestinians wish to kill all Israelis, but they cant. Israelis can kill all Palestinians, but they are trying to not kil civilians.

I've already provide you with solid truth.Building fences inside Palestine territory is illegal as per ICJ ruling.
Did you mean building fences inside someone else territory is legal?Did you mean stealing someone else land is legal?Which law says that?

This territory is DISPUTED. Israel is staying there according to Res 242 and Oslo agreements. There is no any regulation that forbbids building fences. As I  said I am against fence, I think Palestinian Arabs should be tranferred back to Arabia after they broke covenant twise.

You should look at the number of your own kind wrongdoings when they slaughtered MILLION  and still counting in Iran,Afghanistan,Phillipines,Libya,Algeria,Tunisia,Morroco,Western Sahara,Indonesia,Palestine,Syria,Lebanon,Jordan and many many more

Dont talk nonsense. Russia indeed killed tens of thousands in Chechnya, but Russia is best friend of Iran and Hamas.
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Post time 7-5-2006 01:33 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by Nick_Perelman at 5-5-2006 02:51 AM

"The airport has no air traffic control systems yet and lacks other operational equipment, some of which is being held by Israel until the Palestinians pay storage fees that are due."

It is not finished, as I said. You can land plane even on grass if you really wish, but it's not airport.  Look at pic of airport after "destruction":



First, you dont agree with me and deny that Palestine has airport. I gave proof.
Second, you dont agree and deny that there was no single flight. I gave two proof.
Third, now you agree with First and Second, and claim that :

"The airport has no air traffic control systems yet and lacks other operational equipment, some of which is being held by Israel until the Palestinians pay storage fees that are due."
It is not finished, as I said. You can land plane even on grass if you really wish, but it's not airport.  Look at pic of airport after "destruction":

And this time you give the picture after the destruction.

This proove:
1. You a liar, by denying the existent of the airport.
2. You would do what ever to claim your denial and liar.


Let we assess your statement, and as I have told you ealier, i am in the aviation or simple word if you dont know what is aviation mean - Commercial Flight - industry. Meaning that I have took exam and required to know about the facilities, prequisite for an international airport to operate, security method and level, etc...

And as for your claim.. I would say that for International Airport (be less for Domestic Bound Airport) or any single airport are required to have approval from IASA and ICAO for release for purchases for items needed for an airport to operate and before doing such, the blueprint for an airport has be passed to ICAO for approval.

This later will be tendered - no approval from ICAO, no one would dare to make tender to build an airport - and later for insurance purposes. Insurance company will make assessment from blueprint and later checking the building for approval from any approved architecture firm.

and for an airport to operate, they will be assigned a number - inbound/outbound code - for pilot to set the radio signal and for land traffic to take care of them - we call that Tower Signal.

and Gaza International Airport received inbound flight from Egypt, meaning that ICAO has approved such flight, because i dont think Egypt's management would allow for flight to bound to an airport without security and insurance coverage.

Nick-perelman - your claim sounds nothing to me, and regarded a rubbish... maybe you want to try again later..

would wish to hear what else you want to stay to defend your position {airport doesnt exist, no single bound, airport not functional, ???}
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Post time 7-5-2006 09:01 PM | Show all posts
I said that airport was not finished and I was right. Some PR flights with light planes dont turn it into an airport. All main buildings are not damaged. Runway can be fixed in one day (I can tell you how to fix it in 2 hours if you are interested). This "destruction" is nothing more than another PR action of Palestinians to whin for CNN.

Most important that you divert topic from Islamic terriorism that murders hundreds of thousands people all over the world to Arab airport. You show that runway of not finished airport of your Arab masters is more important than lives of hundreds of thousands of people.

You are a boring and pathetic whinner like our Arab masters.
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Post time 7-5-2006 09:12 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by Nick_Perelman at 7-5-2006 09:01 PM
I said that airport was not finished and I was right. Some PR flights with light planes dont turn it into an airport. All main buildings are not damaged. Runway can be fixed in one day (I can tell  ...



what is your stand, first you DENY. then you say it is not finished. it seems that you yourself are blurr about the information for yourself.

as far as i concerned, the damage is made by israel, and you gave pic to prove. i still dont get your position, you deny it existence, later you say it can be fixed. Like chips-more, now you see, later you dont.

dont play a pulling rope. we dont need that... Greekgod showed from the very first stand regarding the existence, which you claimed otherwise - not exist.

it can be repaired, but how about the cost? will israeli pay for the damage, i dont think so... will you pay from your pocket, i bet not...

Palestinian suffered already, and destroying GIA, showed that israel is a rogue country, and having you here GIVING FALSE INFORMATION showed that israeli is none other but a GOOD LIAR.
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Post time 7-5-2006 09:29 PM | Show all posts
I knew that airport was not finished and I was right. I did not know that there were couple test flights. How smart pick on that miserable flight and turn it into main argumentation. Diversion of the topic is continuing.

[ Last edited by  Nick_Perelman at 7-5-2006 09:31 PM ]
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Post time 7-5-2006 09:53 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by Nick_Perelman at 7-5-2006 09:29 PM
I knew that airport was not finished and I was right. I did not know that there were couple test flights. How smart pick on that miserable flight and turn it into main argumentation. Diversion of t ...


from your post earlier.. you SAID THAT THE AIRPORT DOESNT EXIST. now you agree it exist.

we wait for greekgod to answer whether it is test flight or not.
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Post time 7-5-2006 10:16 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by hyie at 7-5-2006 09:53 PM


from your post earlier.. you SAID THAT THE AIRPORT DOESNT EXIST. now you agree it exist.

we wait for greekgod to answer whether it is test flight or not.

I meant that they had not any finished airport. What it has to do with the issue? Diversion continues.
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Post time 7-5-2006 10:23 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by Nick_Perelman at 7-5-2006 10:16 PM

I meant that they had not any finished airport. What it has to do with the issue? Diversion continues.



From your post, n0 #73

Concerning airport - they never had any airport. And dont list books that you have never read.



"they never had any airport"   does not equal to "they had not any finished airport", does it?
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Post time 7-5-2006 11:30 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by hyie at 7-5-2006 10:23 PM

From your post, n0 #73
"they never had any airport"   does not equal to "they had not any finished airport", does it?



Thank hyie.... That question remained unanswered. We can now question, is and will nick_perelman speaks of the truth, since he tried to deceit us with false claims and in matter of not referring to the facts.

He now may want to take test for Commercial Aviation Security Assessment test, which includes a class for Commercial Airport Design and Functions.
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Post time 8-5-2006 12:46 AM | Show all posts
Originally posted by hyie at 7-5-2006 10:23 PM

"they never had any airport"   does not equal to "they had not any finished airport", does it?

Unless airport is finished it is not an airport.

And diversion goes on. For Arabirsters like greekgod, runway of not finished Arab airport, which can be fixed in one day, is more important than lives of hundreds of thousands of people killed by Arabs.
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Post time 8-5-2006 02:54 AM | Show all posts
Originally posted by Nick_Perelman at 8-5-2006 12:46 AM

Unless airport is finished it is not an airport.

And diversion goes on. For Arabirsters like greekgod, runway of not finished Arab airport, which can be fixed in one day, is more important tha ...


why do u keep running awayfrom Greekgod's point? u know u lose out to him rite? then how about the thousands of innocent Palestinian lives lost in the Intifada?
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i don't think thes epeople were innocent
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Post time 8-5-2006 06:31 AM | Show all posts
Originally posted by maxomeara at 8-5-2006 02:54 AM


why do u keep running awayfrom Greekgod's point? u know u lose out to him rite? then how about the thousands of innocent Palestinian lives lost in the Intifada?

I already answered it: Palestinians are killed when they join armed clashes:



Israelis on the other hand are killed in buses, cafees, markets, discoteques and so on. By the way, number of Muslims slaughtered by Islamic terrorists is hundreds times higher than number of Israelis. But greekgod does not care. He diverst topic to runway of not completed airport.
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Post time 8-5-2006 09:44 AM | Show all posts
To Nick Perelman:

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Post time 8-5-2006 11:05 AM | Show all posts
Just saw over astro channel last sat, international activists and fellow jews who sympatised with the unjust treatment to Palestinians.

With tears running down their eyes, the activists described during the interview of true stories, how the Israelis soldiers just bombed the houses with people still inside, a baby died in the bombing, the housing area flattened and bulldozed with a crippled man trapped inside. This cruel activities are just a few captions to share



This little infant's head was cut off from the Israelis soldiers shooting spree





LOOK HOW ISRAELI SOLDIERS KILLED SURRENDERED PEOPLE




































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Post time 8-5-2006 12:29 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by Nick_Perelman at 8-5-2006 12:46 AM

Unless airport is finished it is not an airport.

And diversion goes on. For Arabirsters like greekgod, runway of not finished Arab airport, which can be fixed in one day, is more important tha ...



Maybe you want to consider to take class for commercial pilot, because in that class you will learn about runways, and of course i would suggest you to contact ICAO to ask why did they approve for GIA to operate and receive inbound flight.

It was finished, but then you have just mentioned with your pic above, israeli destroyed it.

Unless airport is finished it is not an airport.


what kind of statement is this?

or...

Unless Israel have true border, then we can call it country, otherwise, we can call the brutal occupant.


Let me give you a burden:

1. What is the least prequisite for an airport to operate?

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