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Reply #1067 rambutan's post
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Post Last Edit by HangPC2 at 3-3-2010 18:26
Detroit Electric to base electric cars on Proton cars?
We may see electric versions of the Proton Savvy, Proton GEN2 and even a possible Proton MPV very soon, as evident from this recent revelation. They wont be Proton-badged though - the world will know them as Detroit Electric cars. The Detroit Electric was an electric car produced by the Anderson Electric Car Company in Detroit between 1907 to 1939. It had a top speed of 32km/h and a maximum range of about 130km, though driving it in an efficient manner scored a record of 340.1km on a single charge.
The new Detroit Electric will be a joint venture between ZAP and China Youngman. Ex-Lotus Engineering top man Albert Lam (shown top left) will chair the new Detroit Electric venture. Its first cars will roll off the production line in summer 2009.
Now here where we find out some of Detroit Electrics cars will be based off Proton bodies. Detroit Electric cars will be brought into the European market by a Dutch consortium called Electric Cars Europe (ECE). Their website lists a couple of models like an electric version of the Lotus Elise and an electric Volkswagen Golf.
But the Detroit Electric range is also listed: a four model line-up that consists of a subcompact, a mid-sized sedan/hatchback, the Zap alias, and a full-sized SUV called the ZAP-X, which we all know is an electric-powered Lotus APX.
To the left you will find the information on the compact electric car that Detroit Electric will offer. It is quite obviously a Proton Savvy with no badge on the front.
According to the preliminary info, the Detroit Electric Proton Savvy will be launched in the 4th quarter of 2009. It will be powered by a 30kW (40hp) electric motor thats backed by lithium-ion batteries.
Range is about 300km, and I am not sure if my translation is right but it appears that the vehicle can be charged up in between 2.5 hours to 7 hours, depending on the power supply. Estimated price is 22,491 Euros, or about RM112,188.00!
The next car is described as a mid-sized sedan/hatchback. The silhouette looks like the Proton GEN2, except it seems to have a very radically styled front end. Two door handles on the side can be seen, showing that it has at least 4 doors, or 5 if its a hatch like the GEN2.
This larger Detroit Electric Proton GEN2 probably has a larger battery so it can go further with a maximum range of 550km, and on to a top speed of 190km/h thanks to its powerful 150kW (200 horsepower) electric motor. Charging time is listed as being between 3.5 hours to 10 hours, again depending on the source of power.
The Detroit Electric mid-sized sedan possibly and likely to be based on the GEN2 is expected to be launched in the second quarter of 2010 and will retail for 29,251 Euros, or RM145,599.00!
The final model (other than the ZAP Alias which I will not be talking about here) is the Detroit Electric ZAP-X based on ZAP ZAP-X concept which is in turn based on the Lotus APX, a 5-seater MPV developed by Lotus. Protons MPV could possibly be some variation of this concept by Lotus.
The Detroit Electric ZAP-X will be a monster, featuring 400kW (536 horsepower) of power and travelling up to 225km/h. Sounds like a BMW X6 competitor to me. It takes less than 4 seconds to get up to 100km/h.
Range is expected to be about 525km which indicates rather large lithium ion batteries but no figures were given on how long it would take to charge them up.
An expected launching date for the ZAP-X is the 4th quarter of 2010, and the Detroit Electric MPV/SUV vehicle will cost 71,400 Euros, or an astronomical RM355,400!
The usage of Proton cars to provide the base chassis for this project actually makes sense as Youngman (one of the partners in Detroit Electric, the other is ZAP) already has a relationship with Proton for it to supply left hand drive versions of the Proton GEN2 for rebadging in China as the Europestar RCR. Initially the orders will be CBU, but recently CKD kits have already started being shipped to China for local assembly there.
In fact, the faint sketch you see used to depict the Detroit Electric mid-sized sedan may be what a facelifted Europestar RCR will look like once the CKD operations in China are running smoothly and Youngman decides to give the Chinese GEN2 its own styling.
The technology used in these models are probably too expensive which is why the prices are quite high, making these cars far out of reach from the mass market here. It would be interesting to see if anyone brings them in here, perhaps Proton themselves.
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Govt to find new ways to tackle high oil prices
2008/07/22
By : Hamidah Atan
Prime Minister Datuk Seri Abdullah Ahmad Badawi inspecting a Lotus car that runs on electricity.
PUTRAJAYA: The government will introduce unconventional ways and the latest technologies to deal with high oil prices, the prime minister said yesterday.
Datuk Seri Abdullah Ahmad Badawi said out-of-the-box, creative and innovative measures would be adopted from time to time.
Speaking after chairing a meeting of the Cabinet Committee on Inflation, he said the committee had been briefed on the use of electric cars to replace gas, petrol or diesel.
National carmaker Proton Holdings Berhad has been given the green light to carry out in-depth validation and testing of cars using electric batteries.
"Last Friday, I launched a gadget called hydrofuel that could lower the consumption of petrol or diesel by 50 per cent.
"Today, the committee was briefed about these cars. They are not hybrid but electric cars. Two of the companies involved, The Detroit Electric and PRO Dis-T Sdn Bhd, had invited Proton to work with them.
"The cooperation will be meaningful for future Proton models."
Abdullah, who is also finance minister, said the batteries were durable.
"If it can be commercialised, then Proton can use it for all its cars. It is my hope that Proton will cooperate with the companies as this will benefit all car owners in the country.
"The cost for every kilometre is only 3.5 sen. Proton has been allowed to carry out technical validation and testing of all aspects of the cars.
"That assessment can be done in less than one year. If it satisfies all Proton's requirements, then it can be commercialised."
Abdullah took the opportunity to test-drive an electric car, a Lotus, after the meeting.
"The government will continue to find alternative resources so that we will not be too dependent on combustible gas, petrol or diesel."
Abdullah also said the government would continue to enact measures to ease the effects of high food and fuel prices.
Deputy Prime Minister Datuk Seri Najib Razak, who also drove the car, said new technologies were needed to cope with present needs and demands.
"More measures will be introduced. Right now, we are looking into electric cars to help ease the burden of the people. We are looking into it as a viable alternative to petrol or diesel. If, indeed, it is viable, it can be introduced."
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Pengkomersiolan kereta elektrik ganti bahan api
Oleh Abdul Razak Raaff
[email protected]
TEKNOLOGI BARU: Abdullah cuba memandu uji kereta Lotus berkuasa elektrik di Putrajaya, semalam.
Proton sudah diberi 'lampu hijau' buat ujian, penilaian: PM
PUTRAJAYA: Kerajaan akan memperkenalkan pelbagai kaedah dan pendekatan kreatif seperti penggunaan tenaga baru bagi mengurangkan pergantungan kepada petrol, diesel dan gas yang semakin mahal, kata Datuk Seri Abdullah Ahmad Badawi.
Perdana Menteri berkata, pendekatan luar daripada kebiasaan itu, termasuk pengkomersiolan kereta elektrik oleh Proton Holdings Bhd bagi meringankan beban rakyat akibat kenaikan harga bahan api.
Abdullah yang juga Menteri Kewangan berkata, syarikat pengeluar kereta nasional itu sudah diberi 'lampu hijau' untuk mengadakan ujian dan penilaian teknologi itu dengan kerjasama syarikat Amerika, The Detroit Electric Ltd, dan syarikat tempatan, PRO Dis-T Sdn Bhd.
"Ini bukan kereta hibrid, tetapi kereta elektrik. Ini adalah satu teknologi baru yang menjimatkan. Kita benarkan syarikat ini bekerjasama dengan Proton. Kita berharap kerjasama ini akan mendatangkan manfaat bagi model kereta Proton pada masa depan.
"Insya-Allah kita jangkakan keputusan mengkomersiolkan enjin berkuasa elektrik boleh dibuat dalam jangka masa kurang setahun."
"Saya menganggap ini satu langkah kreatif yang boleh diambil kerajaan kerana kita berusaha mencari bahan tenaga baru supaya tidak bergantung kepada petrol, diesel dan gas yang harganya terus naik," katanya selepas memandu uji kereta Lotus berkuasa elektrik di Persiaran Perdana, di sini, semalam.
Terdahulu, Abdullah mempengerusikan mesyuarat Jawatankuasa Kabinet Mengenai Inflasi di Kementerian Kewangan. Anggota jawatankuasa itu juga diberi taklimat mengenai kereta berkuasa elektrik oleh Pengerusi yang juga Ketua Eksekutif The Detroit Electric Ltd, Albert Lam.
Kos perjalanan kereta elektrik itu bagi setiap kilometer amat rendah iaitu 3.5 sen.
Abdullah berkata, kerajaan terus berusaha mencari kaedah lain mengurangkan beban rakyat yang ketika ini berdepan kenaikan mendadak harga minyak dan makanan.
Sementara itu, Timbalan Perdana Menteri, Datuk Seri Najib Razak, yang turut memandu kereta Lotus berkuasa elektrik itu, berkata penggunaan teknologi baru menggantikan bahan bakar petrol, diesel dan gas perlu bagi memenuhi permintaan rakyat ketika ini.
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Reply #1078 HangPC2's post
nampak mcm lobang atas bonet enjin.. campro cps supercharged ke.. ? |
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Post Last Edit by HangPC2 at 3-3-2010 18:22
MEM Proton Satria Neo Super 2000
This is the MEM Proton Satria Neo Super 2000 Rally Car. The Super 2000 Rally was proposed by the FIA because of the rising costs of running World Rally Cars and competing in the World Rally Championship.
The following are the specs for a Super 2000 Rally Car:
* 3, 4 or 5-door models with length over 3900mm
* Generic 4X4 transmission without active differential from Sadev or Xtrac
* 2.0 liter normally aspirated engine from either a base engine used in any model from the manufacturer, or a engine licensed from another manufacturer with 2,500 units minimum production per year
* Engine must comply to BTCC/ETC specs with 8,500rpm rev limit
* Minimum weight - 1100kg tarmac, 1150kg gravel
* Maximum bodywork and wheel arch extension width 1800mm
The MEM Satria Neo S2000 complies to these specifications, measuring 3905mm long, 1800mm wide with a 2440mm wheelbase and a weight of 1150kg. Its chassis is based on the road-going Neo and has been strengthened to comply with FIA regulations and the components of a S2000 rally car. It is fitted with a rollcage built from 35 meters of Chrome-Moly Steel Tubing.
Its 4-cylinder 1998cc DOHC normally aspirated engine is based on the 1.8 liter Renault engine in the Waja. It produces 280hp at 7,800rpm and a massive 271Nm of torque at 7,000rpm, and is installed transversely at the front of the car. This engine is mated to an Xtrac 6-speed sequential transmission with Alcon clutch and 3 player LSD.
Brakes are also from Alcon, with 300mm discs with 4 piston calipers at the front and 300mm discs at the rear on gravel. For asphalt, the front brake discs are uprated to 350mm. Wheels are 18 inch alloys for tarmac and 15 inch alloys for gravel. The cars electronics system runs on the GEMS Multiplex System with Power Management, Data Logging and a Glass Dash Display
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Memang bagus Proton buat Technology Week ni sebab orang ramai dapat didedahkan dengan teknologi automotif yang diorang ada dan sambil2 tu dapat gak bayangkan camaner rupa MPV diorang yang bakal kuar tahun depan tu walaupun sekadar tunjuk rangka jer.
Per2 pun Proton kena giat bangunkan teknologi hybrid diorang yang bakal kuar sekitar 2010-2011 nanti dan jugak teknologi enjin diesel dan improve Campro CPS diorang laa, kasi buat jenis economy CPS (macam VTEC-E) dan gak 3-stage CPS (macam 3-stage VTEC) sebab teknologi2 camni la yang diperlukan time kita tengah sakit ati kat kerajaan pasal minyak naik.
Selain tu gak, Proton kena start bangunkan model pengganti Waja (kasi pakai enjin Campro CPS 1.8 untuk H-line dan CPS 1.6 untuk M-line, pakai 5-speed auto, sumer ada dual airbag tapi model 1.8 kasi tambah side airbag) dan gak model pengganti Perdana untuk pulihkan balik imej yang tercalar pasal skandal Merc Terengganu tu (kasi pakai enjin Campro CPS 2.0 inline 4 untuk M-line dan CPS 2.4 V6 untuk H-line, pakai 5-speed auto, bubuh sistem GPS, airbag 6 bijik termasuk airbag tepi etc.) |
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Percaya atau tidak, Proton sebenarnya dah ada buat enjin sendiri yang cc dier lagi besar, enjin v enam tuu... dan ni sememangnya bukan enjin Mitsubishi macam kat Perdana V6 tu...
Ni spec dier...
Specifications :
Valve Mechanism : DOHC VICP
No. of Cylinders : 6
Bore & Stroke : 82mm x 69.4mm
Total Displacement : 2199cc
Compression Ratio : 10:5:1
Maximum Output kW/rpm : 200HP/7250rpm
Maximum Torque Nm/rpm : 210Nm/5000rpm
Fuel system : MPI
Info kat http://www.flickr.com/photos/faizal-omar/2731891758/ |
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Post Last Edit by HangPC2 at 3-3-2010 18:23
Proton shows its worth at tech week
Arman Ahmad
MORE than 55,000 people visited the Proton Technology Week at the national car maker's plant in Shah Alam over the weekend.
IN AWE: Members of the public viewing the shell of Protons new MPV at its plant in Shah Alam yesterday in conjunction with Proton Techology Week. NST picture by Effendy Rashid
Based on this alone, the event which opened at 2pm on Saturday and ended yesterday, achieved its main objective -- to show to the public the various innovation initiatives as well as research and development facilities at Proton.
Visiting the plant was an eye-opener for many, as they were given glimpses of automotive products that could be expected to hit the market in the future.
A Proton Gen. 2 hybrid and a gas-powered Saga were among the exhibits that stole the show.
The Gen. 2 hybrid is said to be able to travel 100 kilometres on just 4.2 litres of petrol.
Proton's research engineer Muhammad Zulfadzil Che Mustafar said the car, powered by a hybrid 1.6-litre Campro engine and electric motor, can reach a top speed of 190 kph and accelerate from zero to 100 kph in nine seconds.
"The top management has not set the production date, but it is part of our development roadmap for the future," he said.
One of the visitors was Ab Wahab Che Mat, 48, who said he had come to the exhibition just to view the hybrid.
"I think the time is right for a hybrid, especially in the current situation of high fuel prices.
"Proton owes it to Malaysians to bring the car to the market quickly, in line with the trend worldwide," he said.
Another visitor, 30-year-old Desmond Chin who came all the way from Malacca, echoed the sentiments, saying that the sooner Proton introduces the hybrid car, the better.
Another car that received a lot of attention was a natural gas-powered Proton Saga, which was expected to be launched early next year.
A visitor, Mustafar Abdullah, 53, said the car was worth considering especially with the current high fuel prices.
A multi-purpose vehicle (MPV) that is scheduled to be released in the first quarter of 2009 also received a lot of attention. A shell of the vehicle on display attracted a big crowd.
The exhibition also did well to remove some negative perceptions about Proton's product quality.
The various processes of car production were on display for the public to see.
The power window testing booth was one of the most highly visited.
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