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Originally posted by cenggitu at 30-7-2007 04:00 PM ![](http://forum3.cari.com.my/images/common/back.gif)
Mias, this is the xplanation as per in Wikipedia & as per my understanding too
Harry also discovers that he himself is a Horcrux; Voldemort cannot be killed while Harry lives.
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yerpp..true...
for me, this is the best part.. Harry bersedia utk 'pergi' asalkan yg lain selamat bila tahu yang dia adalah Horcrux terakhir...
tp akhirnya dia selamat....
thnxx to Neville yg berani bunuh Nagini.. Neville mmg layak jadi Gryfindor |
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for those yg tak tau ape terjadik kat awek pelik but cool "luna"
dier jadik naturalist in the future..searching for unique things..sort of..
nih aku baca kat wikipedia.. |
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yerppp.. ade baca gak.. Ron & Harry jadi Auror,kan? then Hermione keje kat Ministry - Law Enforcement..hehe.. otak yg genius - bijak membuat keputusan..
Rowling ada ckp sbnrnya dia tulis epilog tu panjang lagi..rase cam smua nak beritahu..tp rasanya editor mesti suh edit2 kot.. ye la... dlm Book 1 pon.. patut citer byk lagi ttg ghost Nick..camne leh jadi ghost etc..tp tpaksa buang part tu..
Apepun, HP7 mmg memuaskan hati ku... wpon epilog cam a bit down ler.. |
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albus severus tuh sape?anak sape? |
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Originally posted by cenggitu at 30-7-2007 04:00 PM ![](http://forum.cari.com.my/images/common/back.gif)
Mias, this is the xplanation as per in Wikipedia & as per my understanding too
Harry also discovers that he himself is a Horcrux; Voldemort cannot be killed while Harry lives.
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and i think that's why jugak masa part last tuh... yg after voldermort thought he already killed harry, and brought his body back to hogwarts... voldermort's nye curse/magic does not really work.... harry ada mentioned masa dia berdepan one to one with voldermort... that harry was ready to die for those people... the same as like his mother's sacrifice.... voldermort cannot kill/touch harry because of lilly's protection... she died for harry...
same goes for harry... he was ready to die for those good people... (even though he live, but technically, voldermort did kill him)... so that's why masa last tuh voldermort nyer spell x menjadi... example... he put a silence spell twice when he first face those people at hogwarts... but first ron, and then neville manage to yell over the spell, and the silence charm broke...
and then the binding curse he put on neville, also neville manage to break it (and afterward killed nagini).. |
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errr...pening gak ye nak pahamkan kenapa Harry x mati walaupun dia Horcrux. Fuh...jenuh ni kene study betul2....hahaha.
Btw, Neville bunuh Nagini pakai pedang Gryffindor? Errr...camne dia dapat pedang tu? Goblin kedekut tu kasi balik ke? |
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sapa ada ebook ni? Nak buh dalam henpon, senang nak baca semula. Tak daya nak usung buku tebal tu kesana kemari sekali lagi ![](static/image/smiley/default/tongue.gif) |
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xpe sherrina....................................
sl0w & steady~!!! heeeeeeeheeeeee... |
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Originally posted by sherrina at 31-7-2007 12:55 AM ![](http://forum3.cari.com.my/images/common/back.gif)
sapa ada ebook ni? Nak buh dalam henpon, senang nak baca semula. Tak daya nak usung buku tebal tu kesana kemari sekali lagi
pm me ur email sherrina... i ada ebook... heheh... dh beli buku... ebook pun dl gak... boleh baca kat mana2... |
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baru je habis baca...tapi nak kena baca skali lagi..byk gak tak paham |
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Originally posted by sherrina at 31-7-2007 12:53 AM ![](http://forum3.cari.com.my/images/common/back.gif)
errr...pening gak ye nak pahamkan kenapa Harry x mati walaupun dia Horcrux. Fuh...jenuh ni kene study betul2....hahaha.
Btw, Neville bunuh Nagini pakai pedang Gryffindor? Errr...camne dia dapa ...
only the true and bravest gryffindor's can summon that sword... |
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Originally posted by sherrina at 31-7-2007 12:53 AM ![](http://forum.cari.com.my/images/common/back.gif)
errr...pening gak ye nak pahamkan kenapa Harry x mati walaupun dia Horcrux. Fuh...jenuh ni kene study betul2....hahaha.
ermm... nih my opinion je la... x tau btol ke salah....
originally, harry kene mati jugak in order for voldermort to die... sbb, harry is voldee nyer horcrux... so if all the hrocrux is destroyed, then voldermort can be destroyed... because harry is one of the horcrux, meaning harry has to be destroyed as well...
but then, voldermort kan used harry's blood dlm book 4... so, harry's blood and lilly's protection is in voldermort... unknown to voldermort, that caused the original premonition to change... jadi skang, harry xleh mati if voldermort still hidup...
so, when voldermort try to kill harry that first time, only the horcrux was destroyed, but harry's soul slamat...
err... rasanya lah... nanti kene study lg btol2 nih... |
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Reply #119 juya79's post
betul la tu juya... ![](static/image/smiley/default/titter.gif) |
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Reply #119 juya79's post
yerp juya..betul tu...
then the second time voldy nak bunuh harry guna Elder Wand.. x menjadi..sbb pemilik sebenar Elder Wand tu sbnrnya Harry..
Dumbledore -> Draco -> Harry.. sedangkan Voldy igt dialah berhak kat Elder Wand tu..
Dumbledore -> Snape -> Voldy (salah faham)..
hah.. Elder Wand refuse to kill its owner.. so.. Harry pon selamat le.. and Voldy yg mati...... |
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juya's explanation tu betullah..that's the reason why HP tak mati. Voldy died by his own curse rebounded/reflected balik kat dia when he tried to kill HP masa last2 tu..![](static/image/smiley/default/lol.gif) |
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hoho...paham dahh. Thanks ya for explaining. Tu yg tetiba Harry jumpa Dumbledore tu. Dan I guess budak kecik yg merengkot kat King Cross tu nyawa2 ikan Volder kot sebelum ia dimusnahkan oleh Neville.
Pastu satu lagi, nape lak Draco pemilik Elder Wand tu? Bila lak Draco dapat? |
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tu mase HP6 sherrina...
sbnrnya ElderWand tu diturunkan pd Draco..bukan pada Snape...
refer blk kat HP6.. sbb dah lama x baca HP6 ni.. buku kat rumah.. igt2 lupa gak camne situasi masa Dumbledore mati tu.. |
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Originally posted by lemonadenoi at 31-7-2007 08:24 PM ![](http://forum3.cari.com.my/images/common/back.gif)
tu mase HP6 sherrina...
sbnrnya ElderWand tu diturunkan pd Draco..bukan pada Snape...
refer blk kat HP6.. sbb dah lama x baca HP6 ni.. buku kat rumah.. igt2 lupa gak camne situasi masa Dumbledo ...
dlm book 6... voldermort instruct draco to kill dumbledore... but at last snape yg finish off dumbledore (and in book 7 we know that dumbledore and snape already arrange this).... however, even though snape technically kill dumbledore... before that... draco took away elder wand from dumbledore... what i mean is draco actually is the one who disarmed dumbledore... before snape came later on and finished off dumbledore...
so the elder wand is rightfully draco's... walaupun draco tak pegang and simpan that wand, it is already his... as explained by that wandmaker... ollivander.. explanation dia lebih kurang camni... there is no need for the owner of the wand to die in order for others to gain that wand... kira bila dia dpt kalahkan the owner of the wand, that wand will belong to him...
so... masa kat malfoy's mansion... harry lak disarmed draco... and got draco's wand... even though that wand is not elder wand, but because harry disarmed draco, both draco's and the elder wand now belong to harry... so masa final face to face between voldermort and harry, both wands actually belong to harry.. yg harry guna tuh is draco's actual wand yg dia rampas... and the elder wand that voldermort used also belong to harry
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