sam1528 posted on 28-10-2014 08:40 PM
No , you have not debated me on the so called claim that Prophet Muhammad(saw) rode a mythical bea ...
Biblical Jacob wrestled with God. You know like the WWE , he wrestled with God , from your copy paste :
It is first used when Jacob wrestled with the Lord and God named him “Israel.” Jacob says, “I have seen God face to face, and my life is preserved” (Gen 32:30)
it was his assumption...either God or angle..
if God came down to wrestle , it was in human flesh with different image not GOD image...because human cannot see GOD face and will die the moment we see.
sam1528 posted on 28-10-2014 08:40 PM
No , you have not debated me on the so called claim that Prophet Muhammad(saw) rode a mythical bea ...
Can you now show me where in any scripture that Prophet Muhammad(saw) seen Allah? You are just arguing from one speculation to another. In short you are a crazy person who is just farting thru your mouth.
are you denying it? have you taken your medicine today??
Truth.8 posted on 28-10-2014 09:46 PM
it was his assumption...either God or angle..
if God came down to wrestle , it was in human flesh with different image not GOD image...because human cannot see GOD face and will die the moment we see.
simple understaning...
LOL , this is so silly from you. I repeat the verse in question :
It is first used when Jacob wrestled with the Lord and God named him “Israel.” Jacob says, “I have seen God face to face, and my life is preserved”
Did biblical Jacob wrestled with
(a) God ;or
(b) angel (not angle)
The verse state
(a) God ; or
(b) angel
If God came in the shape of a man , that particular man is still God. The face would be the face of God. That is why biblical Jacob stated :
“I have seen God face to face, and my life is preserved”
This testimony makes the biblical God a liar that humans would die if they have seen the face of God.
LOL , you are in denial. The sign of a crazy person Last edited by sam1528 on 28-10-2014 11:07 PM
Where in the article that Prophet Muhammad(saw) had seen Allah face per your claim?
The following is an excerpt from the said article :
Then a voice came from that presence, which no created being had heard before: "Muhammad! I have made you the intercessor for everyone." At that moment Muhammad (pbuh) felt his mind enraptured and taken away to be replaced with an astonishing secret.
The article did not state that Prophet Muhammad(saw) seen Allah face. BTW , Quran112 describe Allah.
LOL , I have caught you trying to lie. Like I stated , why argue about things that you have very little knowledge.
This shows that you have very poor comprehension. You do not understand what you read ...... errrr ..... did you actually read the said article?
Truth.8 posted on 30-10-2014 10:31 AM
so be it.....now get lost from my thread and do not divert my peaceful thread...take your terrorist act elswhere...
Now you agree that you've been lying all the while. Yes?
So when did Prophet Muhammad(saw) saw the 'face' of Allah per your claim? Enough BS from you in this forum over the years. You agree?
sam1528 posted on 30-10-2014 01:06 PM
Now you agree that you've been lying all the while. Yes?
So when did Prophet Muhammad(saw) saw ...
So when did Prophet Muhammad(saw) saw the 'face' of Allah per your claim? Enough BS from you in this forum over the years. You agree?
lie your head...read this:
The only person who saw Allah (swt) is the Beloved Prophet Muhammad (pbuh).
The person who has approached Allah the most is Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) who has been bestowed the great miracle; Miraj. While in the miraj (ascending) he (pbuh) saw Allah (swt) in the akhirah with his (worldly) eyes.
It is an absolute and doubtless truth that the beloved Messenger (pbuh) saw Allah Almighty that night. Even if some of the earlier Muslim scholars have said the contrary, the scholars of later eras such as Imam Ash’ari, Abd al-Qadir Jilani, Imam Rabbani, Taftazaani, Mawlana Khalid Baghdadi, Imam Nawawi, who are the seniors of the Ahl al-Sunnah, are unanimous that the Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) saw Allah (SWT). Nawawi said the following: “According to most of the scholars, the Prophet (pbuh) saw his Lord.
Truth.8 posted on 30-10-2014 08:11 PM
lie your head...read this:
The only person who saw Allah (swt) is the Beloved Prophet Muhammad (pbuh).
The person who has approached Allah the most is Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) who has been bestowed the great miracle; Miraj. While in the miraj (ascending) he (pbuh) saw Allah (swt) in the akhirah with his (worldly) eyes.
It is an absolute and doubtless truth that the beloved Messenger (pbuh) saw Allah Almighty that night. Even if some of the earlier Muslim scholars have said the contrary, the scholars of later eras such as Imam Ash’ari, Abd al-Qadir Jilani, Imam Rabbani, Taftazaani, Mawlana Khalid Baghdadi, Imam Nawawi, who are the seniors of the Ahl al-Sunnah, are unanimous that the Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) saw Allah (SWT). Nawawi said the following: “According to most of the scholars, the Prophet (pbuh) saw his Lord.
You are again displaying comprehension problems. Did you not understand the article?
Most of the ahl al sunnah ulama (scholars that follow the path of Prophet Muhammad (pbuh)) agree that Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) saw Allah (swt) in Miraj. However, they say that it is not possible to fully comprehend the exact essence and concept of seeing Allah (swt). So, we cannot exactly know how, in which way it happened. We are just sure that it did happen.
The issue here is that the scholars agree that Prophet Muhammad(saw) saw Allah but not sure what is the concept and essence of the Prophet seeing Allah. There is no scriptural evidence in support of physically seeing Allah.
You still haven't answered my question : where is the scriptural evidence that Prophet Muhammad(saw) seen Allah physically or in a face to face manner?
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Its already half pas 3 pm
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Truth.8 posted on 27-10-2014 01:27 PM
why cannot says yes or no is it? scared the whole klang will be torando and lives of humans destroyed???
now you know how I am blessed and my words can be powerful via request from GOD
Oooooo mr snake 8 ,u so powerful la..... I'm sure you're a good person.
Now why not request frm your GOD for world peace? May be that's too
Complicated.....
zulkifleerahman posted on 2-11-2014 07:36 AM
Oooooo mr snake 8 ,u so powerful la..... I'm sure you're a good person.
Now why not request frm ...
Oooooo mr snake 8 ,u so powerful la..... I'm sure you're a good person.
Now why not request frm your GOD for world peace? May be that's too
Complicated.....
hello mr beginner aka old forummer with different nick
i m not powerful lah....it GOD....
i write it happened...
unless if my name is arabia like Al sharif, al basir or those al al al...surly you would says...Muslims are gifted...but kafir like me would be label as snake , liar and etc....
Currently I am not going request for peace to GOD as I see too many evil, govement are corrupted...peoples getting greed , new born babies are killed or thrown and etc...
tell me do I need to ask GOD for peace or do I request GOD to wipe out the evil and corrupt nations and only good left???
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