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[Dunia] "Stand With Israel" !! !! Moh kita Sokong HITLER!!!

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Post time 11-7-2014 08:34 PM | Show all posts
canaan ada? kata nabi musa jumpa canaanite? ..padahal depa di afrika ...yang ada adalah suku kaum gagah perkasa dari kaum ni lahirlah jalut..
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Post time 11-7-2014 08:35 PM | Show all posts
bangsa israel adalah bangsa terlaknat ..sudah dilaknat..

Dan Telah kami tetapkan terhadap Bani Israil dalam Kitab itu:“Sesungguhnya kamu akan membuat kerusakan di muka bumi Ini dua kali dan pasti kamu akan menyombongkan diri dengan kesombongan yang besar”. Maka apabila datang saat hukuman bagi (kejahatan) pertama dari kedua (kejahatan) itu, kami datangkan kepadamu hamba-hamba kami yang mempunyai kekuatan yang besar, lalu mereka merajalela di kampung-kampung, dan Itulah ketetapan yang pasti terlaksana. Kemudian kami berikan kepadamu giliran untuk mengalahkan mereka kembali dan kami membantumu dengan harta kekayaan dan anak-anak dan kami jadikan kamu kelompok yang lebih besar. Jika kamu berbuat baik (berarti) kamu berbuat baik bagi dirimu sendiri dan jika kamu berbuat jahat, maka (kejahatan) itu bagi dirimu sendiri, dan apabila datang saat hukuman bagi (kejahatan) yang kedua, (Kami datangkan orang-orang lain) untuk menyuramkan muka-muka kamu dan mereka masuk ke dalam masjid, sebagaimana musuh-musuhmu memasukinya pada kali pertama dan untuk membinasakan sehabis-habisnya apa saja yang mereka kuasai. Mudah-mudahan Tuhanmu akan melimpahkan rahmat(Nya) kepadamu; dan sekiranya kamu kembali kepada (kedurhakaan) niscaya kami kembali (mengazabmu) dan kami jadikan Neraka Jahannam penjara bagi orang-orang yang tidak beriman.

( QS al-Israa’ 17:4-8)

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Post time 11-7-2014 08:36 PM | Show all posts
tiada siapa kata nabi musa jumpa canaanite, nampak tak permainannya disitu?
bila minta bukti tentang akak kata begitu, tiada pula.
lagi lucu elohim tidak sebut kaum amaliqah tiba tiba nama kaum itu di tafsirkan kepada kata kata elohim.
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Post time 11-7-2014 08:37 PM | Show all posts
kah kah...baca balik post...sudah lupa..ka...td kata amaqilah kejam...bla bla...tp kata amaqilah tak wujud
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Post time 11-7-2014 08:38 PM | Show all posts
sebab itu akak kata kalau cerita ini propa, abang sunni fefeeling elohim tukang tambah kata kata elohim itu pun propa.
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Post time 11-7-2014 08:42 PM | Show all posts
Amalekite,  member of an ancient nomadic tribe, or collection of tribes, described in the Old Testament as relentless enemies of Israel, even though they were closely related to Ephraim, one of the 12 tribes of Israel. The district over which they ranged was south of Judah and probably extended into northern Arabia. The Amalekites harassed the Hebrews during their Exodus from Egypt and attacked them at Rephidim near Mount Sinai, where they were defeated by Joshua. They were among the nomadic raiders defeated by Gideon and were condemned to annihilation by Samuel. Their final defeat occurred in the time of ... (103 of 103 words)

http://global.britannica.com/EBchecked/topic/18343/Amalekite

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Post time 11-7-2014 08:44 PM | Show all posts
Old testament, see
Canaanite tu tak payah rujuk kitab yahudi pun ada archaelogical evidence.
Lagipun bukannya sah yang amalekites dengan amaliqah kaum yang sama.
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Post time 11-7-2014 08:46 PM | Show all posts
the_killer posted on 11-7-2014 08:35 PM
bangsa israel adalah bangsa terlaknat ..sudah dilaknat..

Dan Telah kami tetapkan terhad ...

seluruh bani israel dari kewujudan mereka sampai sekarang ke dilaknat? ke yang bersifat sombong ja ?

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Post time 11-7-2014 08:47 PM | Show all posts
kahkah...

kata amalekites tak sama dengan amaliqah


jadi jelas israel jahat bangsa dilaknat

Dan Telah kami tetapkan terhadap Bani Israil dalam Kitab itu:“Sesungguhnya kamu akan membuat kerusakan di muka bumi Ini dua kali dan pasti kamu akan menyombongkan diri dengan kesombongan yang besar”. Maka apabila datang saat hukuman bagi (kejahatan) pertama dari kedua (kejahatan) itu, kami datangkan kepadamu hamba-hamba kami yang mempunyai kekuatan yang besar, lalu mereka merajalela di kampung-kampung, dan Itulah ketetapan yang pasti terlaksana. Kemudian kami berikan kepadamu giliran untuk mengalahkan mereka kembali dan kami membantumu dengan harta kekayaan dan anak-anak dan kami jadikan kamu kelompok yang lebih besar. Jika kamu berbuat baik (berarti) kamu berbuat baik bagi dirimu sendiri dan jika kamu berbuat jahat, maka (kejahatan) itu bagi dirimu sendiri, dan apabila datang saat hukuman bagi (kejahatan) yang kedua, (Kami datangkan orang-orang lain) untuk menyuramkan muka-muka kamu dan mereka masuk ke dalam masjid, sebagaimana musuh-musuhmu memasukinya pada kali pertama dan untuk membinasakan sehabis-habisnya apa saja yang mereka kuasai. Mudah-mudahan Tuhanmu akan melimpahkan rahmat(Nya) kepadamu; dan sekiranya kamu kembali kepada (kedurhakaan) niscaya kami kembali (mengazabmu) dan kami jadikan Neraka Jahannam penjara bagi orang-orang yang tidak beriman.

( QS al-Israa’ 17:4-8)
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Post time 11-7-2014 08:48 PM | Show all posts
bukti bangsa yang sama?
takde kan?
setakat tiada bukti buang karah jah sembang.
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Post time 11-7-2014 08:56 PM | Show all posts
Amalekites[edit]
The Amalekites were a people mentioned a number of times in the book of Genesis, and considered to be Amalek's descendants. In the chant of Balaam at Numbers, 24:20, Amalek was called the 'first of the nations', attesting to high antiquity.[2]

The name is often interpreted as "dweller in the valley",[3][4] and occasionally as "war-like," "people of prey", "cave-men"[5] In some rabbinical interpretations, Amalek is etymologised as a people am, who lick blood,[6] but most specialists regard the origin to be unknown.[7]

In Arabic, the corresponding term for the Biblical Amalek is Imlīq, whose descendants Al-′Amālīq were early residents of the ḥaram at Mecca, later supplanted by the Banu Jurhum, and formed one of the first tribes of ancient Arabia to speak Arabic.[8






22. " They (Israelites) said: ' O' Moses! verily there is a very arrogant race in it, and verily, we will never enter it until they get out from it. So if they get out fro it, then certainly, we will enter."

Commentary:
The Arabic term /jabbar/ is derived from /jabr/ with the meaning of ' improving something accompanied with force and pressure '.

Yet, the term has been applied with both of these meanings: 1) to compensate, 2) power, might, overcome. The Qur'anic word /jabbar/ has been used as a tittle or an appelation for Allah (s.w.t.) with both of the above two meanings.

The phrase /qaum-an-jabbarin/ (a very arrogant race), mentioned in the above verse, refers to the people of the very tribe of 'Amaliqah from the Semitic race who were living in Sinaie desert located in the north of old Arabia. They ('Amaliqah tribe) invaded Egypt and ruled there for five hundred years.(1)

However, the existence of some corrupted people somewhere can not be a reason for eligible persons that they retire. Enemy should be sent out. We ought not to wait until the enemy himself goes out.

" They (Israelites) said: ' O' Moses! verily there is a very arrogant race in it, and verily, we will never enter it until they get out fromit. So if they get out from it, then certainly, we will enter."

Mere pleasure-seeking is prohibited in Islam. We must act and ask Allah to help us to send out the enemy.


nah bukti amalek dan amaliqah sama..

http://books.google.com.my/books ... 0amalek&f=false
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Post time 11-7-2014 08:58 PM | Show all posts
IMLIQ عمليق
The grandson of Shem, the son of Noah. The progenitor of the ‘Amaliqah, the Amalekites of scripture. They are said to be some of the earliest inhabitants of Makkah and al-Madinah.
Based on Hughes, Dictionary of Islam
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Post time 11-7-2014 08:59 PM | Show all posts
ok dah jelas bani israel di katakan sombong.

tapi yang tak jelas sampai sekarang adalah bangsa amaliqah itu
bukti pun tiada sekadar cerita dari buku buku.
search lah sampai mati pun, yang kamu mampu bagi hanya ayat bible, ayat torah dan beberapa tafsiran yang di tokok tambah bahawa elohim pernah menyebut tentang kaum amaqilah.

sedangkan elohim tidak menyebut pun kaum amaqilah di dalam koran, entah entah kaum di maksud tu kaum lain, tiba tiba di fitnah pula katanya elohim berkata sebegitu.

yang bukti di katakan amaliqah amalekite tu penulis tu sendiri kata "said to be some of the earliest inhabitants" maknanya sekadar di kata sahajalah, bukannya bukti.
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Post time 11-7-2014 09:03 PM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
Last2 dua dua cam biol bertekak tak berani quote...

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Post time 11-7-2014 09:04 PM | Show all posts
jadi jelas lah amaliqah dan amalikte sama...

dah kantoi konar2....jadi amalikite la bangsa asal bukan canaan

dalam koran tak sebut canaan tp disebut jalut...jadi jalut suku gergasi...

amalikite bererti giant...amalek giant

(22) قَالُوا يَا مُوسَى إِنَّ فِيهَا قَوْمًا جَبَّارِينَ وَإِنَّا لَن نَّدْخُلَهَا حَتَّىَ يَخْرُجُواْ مِنْهَا فَإِن يَخْرُجُواْ مِنْهَا فَإِنَّا دَاخِلُونَ

22. " They (Israelites) said: ' O' Moses! verily there is a very arrogant race in it, and verily, we will never enter it until they get out from it. So if they get out fro it, then certainly, we will enter."

Commentary:
The Arabic term /jabbar/ is derived from /jabr/ with the meaning of ' improving something accompanied with force and pressure '.

Yet, the term has been applied with both of these meanings: 1) to compensate, 2) power, might, overcome. The Qur'anic word /jabbar/ has been used as a tittle or an appelation for Allah (s.w.t.) with both of the above two meanings.

The phrase /qaum-an-jabbarin/ (a very arrogant race), mentioned in the above verse, refers to the people of the very tribe of 'Amaliqah from the Semitic race who were living in Sinaie desert located in the north of old Arabia. They ('Amaliqah tribe) invaded Egypt and ruled there for five hundred years.(1)
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Post time 11-7-2014 09:06 PM | Show all posts
ni akak copy dari forummer tentang bangsa amalekites dan amaliqah lain lain.
sebab itu akak berkeras tak nak percaya sebab memang sekadar klem sahaja,
bukti tak pernah pun ada. cerita yang akak copy ni pun klem jah kot.

The Amalekites that the Arab historians were talking about are not the same Amalekites who were the descendants of Esau , they are another nation were called with that name because they were giant people and that's the Arab meaning of the word (( Giant = Imliq = عمليق : singular )) (( Giants = Amalek = عماليق : plural )) because they had giant bodies , they originated from southern Arabia and then the started migrating into central & western Arabia , the Thamudic people are a sect of them , they were the first to settle in Medina before the Ishmaelite Arabs come , they stayed there and afterwards they mingled with the other sects of Arabs , their tribes were known among the Arabs by the name of the (( tall Giants )) and their tribes were known too such as the tribes of Banu Zuhra , Banu Laff , Banu Al-Arqam (( the word Banu means : the sons of.... )) , An eponymous ancestor of the Amalekites is also mentioned in Old Arabian poetry , their ancestor is (( Imliq )) the son of (( Gether ))the son of (( Aram )) the son of (( Shem )) the son of (( Noah )) , Aram was known among the Arabs by the name (( Eram )) , the Amalekites are called in now days by the name of the (( Extinct Arabs )) , they existed way back before Amalek the descendant of Esau was even born , so they are a completely different nations , author of this article (( with all of my respect )) must have been confused between the too nations because they had similar names , the Amalekites who were the descendants of Amalek the grand son of Esau lived in Palestine and the northern parts of Arabia , but the Amalekites who were the descendants of Amalek=Imliq lived side to side with the Joktanites in southern Arabia and also in central & western Arabia.
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Post time 11-7-2014 09:07 PM | Show all posts
tak jelas pun, bukti pun tiada.
ummah bimbo pergi search merata tempat pun tiada bukti lagi, sekadar hanya "said to be" jah.
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Post time 11-7-2014 09:10 PM | Show all posts
ummah sunni memutar kata kata elohim, jalut tidak di sebut pun di ayat nabi musa itu.
jalut di sebut di dalam ayat cerita nabi daud, jangan lah ingat akak bimbo sangat tak reti baca koran.

commentary itu pun sekadar tafsiran, coba kita bayangkan kalau ada kaum lain? tak ke mengfitnah kaum tersebut?
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Post time 11-7-2014 09:15 PM | Show all posts
dah kantoi...konar2

http://books.google.com.my/books ... 0amalek&f=false

orang bukan citer pasal amalek anak esau...orang cerita pasal suku amalek tribe


The Amalekites that the Arab historians were talking about are not the same Amalekites who were the descendants of Amalekites who were the descendants of Esau , they are another nation were called with that name because they were giant people and that's the Arab meaning of the word (( Giant = Imliq = عمليق : singular )) (( Giants = Amalek = عماليق : plural )) because they had giant bodies , they originated from southern Arabia and then the started migrating into central & western Arabia , the Thamudic people are a sect of them , they were the first to settle in Medina before the Ishmaelite Arabs come , they stayed there and afterwards they mingled with the other sects of Arabs , their tribes were known among the Arabs by the name of the (( tall Giants )) and their tribes were known too such as the tribes of Banu Zuhra , Banu Laff , Banu Al-Arqam (( the word Banu means : the sons of.... )) , An eponymous ancestor of the Amalekites is also mentioned in Old Arabian poetry , their ancestor is (( Imliq )) the son of (( Gether ))the son of (( Aram )) the son of (( Shem )) the son of (( Noah )) , Aram was known among the Arabs by the name (( Eram )) , the Amalekites are called in now days by the name of the (( Extinct Arabs )) , they existed way back before Amalek the descendant of Esau was even born , so they are a completely different nations , author of this article (( with all of my respect )) must have been confused between the too nations because they had similar names , the Amalekites who were the descendants of Amalek the grand son of Esau lived in Palestine and the northern parts of Arabia , but the Amalekites who were the descendants of Amalek=Imliq lived side to side with the Joktanites in southern Arabia and also in central & western Arabia.




Last edited by the_killer on 11-7-2014 09:20 PM

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Post time 11-7-2014 09:18 PM | Show all posts
ummah bimbo suci yahudi mula2 kata canaan pehtu pehtu kata amaliqah tak sama dengan amalikite pehtu kata amalikite tak sama....
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