Boleh murtad jika pertikai keputusan kalimah ALLAH

kelana36

tinker_bell posted on 16-10-2013 01:05 PM
Aku ada bace dkt forum lain..dia kate Allah tu translation je..dia nk namakn anjing sbgai Allah po ...

tak tau pulak aku ada agama yang boleh maki tuhan sendiri..

tinker_bell

kelana36 posted on 16-10-2013 05:05 PM
The word “Allah” is derived from the Arabic “al-ilah”, the god. It’s found its way across the w ...

Guna je la ilahi...kenala nak guna nama Allah..Allah kata nama khas..bkn kata nama am..Allah tu nama..Allah adelah tuhan....

leylapple

akughi posted on 16-10-2013 03:59 PM
ko reti mengucap tak?

kalo reti...ko faham tak maksudnye....

kalo ko paham ayat 'tiada tuhan melainkan Allah'

then kenapa pulak nak conquer word Allah exclusive only or malay muslim??????

chazey

d'zeck posted on 16-10-2013 05:05 PM
malaysiakuno ni pakar
memanipulasi data dan fakta no
satu

puiiii

macai tak boleh terima kenyataan

negeri UMNO paling ramai Moslem celup murtad.

puiiii

tinker_bell

leylapple posted on 16-10-2013 05:08 PM
aku dah malas nak bertekak dgn org2 yang kompius word Allah kononnya conclusive hanya utk muslem a ...

Kalimah kita tiada tuhan selain Allah..so dah nmpk beza Allah tu bkn translation bahasa arab..

leylapple

True-X posted on 16-10-2013 04:29 PM
Skit2 murtad..ape kes laaa

ahahaha..

jgn tak tau true....

ramai Islam hanya pada nama sahaja..sebab tu bergaduh pasal kalimah Allah boleh bermati2an...

tapi nak tegakkan syiar Islam, nak ikut undang2 Islam, tu layeeennnnnnn

chazey

d'zeck posted on 16-10-2013 05:06 PM
siapa tu yang tak tau baca
doa qunut?

aku tujukan doa qunut Nazilah khas untuk ko.

tinker_bell

chazey posted on 16-10-2013 05:13 PM
puiiii

macai tak boleh terima kenyataan

Ini bkn msalah umno..ini msalah akidah..belum bgi guna pon ramai dah sesat..ape lagi guna.,bace je ape org lain tulis..konon translation la..ape lah....kena tau beza..kbebasan bersuara muslim tetap termaktub dlm kuasa Islam....

leylapple

chazey posted on 16-10-2013 05:05 PM
melayu UMNO kunun sibuk pasal Allah.

tapi bila disuruh baca doa qunut haram sikit pun tak tahu.
...

chazey,

let me remind u.. ramai di kalangan kita nie Islam hanya pada nama....

nama mesti ada perkataan arabic.... jadi lah muslim...

mesti guna ayat2 arabic, nampaklah tau hal agama...

tapi part zakat, liat!

part sholat, puasa...dimaafkan kononnya!!!

nak berbini pun lari nun ikut sempadan thailand...blh pulak cakap bahsa siam dalam akad nikah...my o my... walopun seumo hidpu nak kata tgk cerita thailand pun tak penah....

bab rukun islam-->fail

bab rukun iman -->needless to say???

tinker_bell

leylapple posted on 16-10-2013 05:13 PM
ahahaha..

jgn tak tau true....

Kalau berdosa boleh mintak ampun kt Allah..kalau murtad..pastu syirik..ko takkan terampun seumur hidup!!semua mnusia buat dosa!

kelana36

tinker_bell posted on 16-10-2013 01:11 PM
Guna je la ilahi...kenala nak guna nama Allah..Allah kata nama khas..bkn kata nama am..Allah tu na ...

Nanti aku bagi tau Khalifah Bin Zayed Al Nahyan..  depa lebih arif dalam bahasa arab dan hal hal ni..

leylapple

kes2 syariah bertahun2 terbengkalai kat mahkamah sana nun..liat nak selesaikan...

hal berkenaan dgn zakat..sholat...tabligh....liat!!!!!

hal2 nak berbini 2-3, itu yang laju ikut islam....sebab islam benarkan sampai 4...

kata Islam....prftttTTTT!!!!!

chazey

tinker_bell posted on 16-10-2013 05:05 PM
Aku ada bace dkt forum lain..dia kate Allah tu translation je..dia nk namakn anjing sbgai Allah po ...

tidak ada Kristian Nusantara yang tahu berbahasa Melayu sebodoh itu untuk sukahati merendah-rendahkan nama Allah. nama Allah sememangnya dimuliakan dan ditinggikan di kalangan ummah Kristian Nusantara.

lain la Moslem celup yang tak kenal Allah seperti ini;





mahu pertahankan kalimah Allah konon. tapi sekor2 memalukan Allah.

leylapple

tinker_bell posted on 16-10-2013 05:13 PM
Kalimah kita tiada tuhan selain Allah..so dah nmpk beza Allah tu bkn translation bahasa arab..

desperate housewife...

nak aku tulis dalam bahasa Ereb baru anta nak paham???

"la illaha illa allah"

kat sini penggunaan Allah ada 2 kali ---> tiada Allah selain Allah...

chazey

tinker_bell posted on 16-10-2013 05:15 PM
Ini bkn msalah umno..ini msalah akidah..belum bgi guna pon ramai dah sesat..ape lagi guna.,bace je ...

nope,

jika ianya berkaitan akidah urang Islam Sabah,

ia berpunca dari UMNO dan USNO.

NIXAR

dok kecoh2 isu ni 1 dunia tau tp x sapa pulak mai sokong org melayu islam. padahal sikit punya ramai org islam dlm dunia ni.

tinker_bell

kelana36 posted on 16-10-2013 05:17 PM
Nanti aku bagi tau Khalifah Bin Zayed Al Nahyan..  depa lebih arif dalam bahasa arab dan hal hal n ...

Ko kena tahu..christian dkt arab kena ikut undang2 islam..mane boleh buat tatu nama Allah atau pgl anjing sbagai Allah..boleh kena bunuh kalau buat mcmtu...tp org dkt msia ni ikut kbebasan agama n bersuara konon..kalau org islam..bawak kalimah Allah dlm toilet pon tak boleh..mcmane ko nak kawal org christian bwk kalimah Allah atau pgl anjing sbgai Allah??
Atau mcarut guna nama Allah??like what they used to do..kalau tgk cerita mat salleh..maki2 hamun tuhan dorang adelah biasa....

tinker_bell

leylapple posted on 16-10-2013 05:20 PM
desperate housewife...

nak aku tulis dalam bahasa Ereb baru anta nak paham???

So knp tak guna illah??illah stand for tuhan..Allah nama tuhan kn!!kalau org tanya ko tuhan ko siapa!!ko jwb Allah kn!bkn ko jwb tuhan!!

cmf_shalom

Christian churches in Borneo vow to continue using the word 'Allah'

(CNN) -- Churches in the Malaysian states of Sabah and Sarawak on the island of Borneo have vowed to continue to use the word "Allah" in defiance of a Malaysian court ruling this week that ruled that the word could not be used by a Roman Catholic newspaper to refer to the Christian God.

Christians in Malaysia use the term interchangeably to refer to the Christian and Muslim God, but now a Christian newspaper published in the capital Kuala Lumpur has been told to stop doing so.

The Archbishop of the Anglican Church in South East Asia Datuk Bolly Lapok described the decision as "excessive, utterly irresponsible and grossly demeaning, to say the least.

"In the meantime, Christians in Sabah and Sarawak continue to reverently worship their Allah until the Kingdom comes," Rev. Lapoksaid in a statement reported in Malaysian media. "What are you going to do about it?"

He said in an earlier statement the decision struck at the constitutional basis of the Malaysian Federation. The Malaysian constitution guarantees freedom of religion while making Islam the state religion.

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"We find it completely unacceptable that what are common practices of the Church of Sabah and Sarawak for hundreds of years, and indeed for generations of Christians even before the very idea of Malaysia was conceived, are now proscribed by administrative orders and laws," Rev. Lapok said.

President of the Sabah Council of Churches, Datuk Thomas Tsen, said churches in the state would continue to use the word "Allah" in their church services, publications and prayers.

"We have made a very clear stand and we will stick to it," he said. "We have purged our hearts and minds on whatever decision the court would make. Even if the court decides against us using the word, we will continue to use it."

The unanimous decision by three Muslim judges sitting in Malaysia's appeals court on Monday overturns a 2009 decision from a lower court that permitted The Herald to use the word Allah.

"The usage of the word Allah is not an integral part of the faith in Christianity," chief judge Mohamed Apandi Ali said in the court ruling. "The usage of the world will cause confusion in the community."

The Herald editor Rev. Lawrence Andrew said he was "disappointed and dismayed," and would appeal against the decision.

"It is a retrograde step in the development of law in relation to the fundamental liberty of religious minorities," he said.

The decision comes amid escalating ethnic and religious tension in Malaysia following a bruising election campaign in May in which the ruling coalition -- which has been in power since federation in 1963 -- found its support among urban voters crumbling.

leylapple

tinker_bell posted on 16-10-2013 05:26 PM
So knp tak guna illah??illah stand for tuhan..Allah nama tuhan kn!!kalau org tanya ko tuhan ko sia ...

aper ko merepek ni bhai????

ko pegi balik baca surah al-kafirun...

entah2 ko nie dah terpesong akidah sebab kompius mana tuhanmu, mana tuhan org lain...