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sam1528 posted on 27-4-2013 09:23 AM 
Ha h a, you are now so desperate and petty that a typo error becomes a big deal to you. You have n ...
Kakakaka.....since this lecherous toothless doggy ustazy can't even pruduce evidences to refute me but just resorted to defamatory remark that peace loving earthling like me is a liar, i guessi i just have to copy and paste my previous unanswered( can't be refuted forever coz it's truth !) post for everyone to enjoy.... my unique second to none excellent post....
The stinky necrotic VD infected birdy of this lecherous doggy ustazy is getting stinkier everytime he lies.......
Hey lecherous australoid doggy ustazy, you understand the whimsical statistic you copy and paste or not......apparently you don't even know what is terrorism because for you muslim, it's a NORM !  ......
You quoted Basque French Separatist, local nationalism movement which fight for autonomy and independence within Basque region, France; ok then, give us a TANGIBLE EXAMPLE of terrorism act(s) committed by them against innocent civilians on global scale ! What ? there is none ??? You are truly a habitual liar like your pseudo prophet !
Ku Klux Klan which is white supremacist movement based in USA only, again, give us a TANGIBLE EXAMPLE of terrorism act committed by them against innocent civilians on global scale ! What ?? Again there is none ?? Shame on you, you satanic worshipper !
This one even better, Latino terrorists ??? Hold on, let me retrieve this news from http://www.huffingtonpost.com/ga ... ion-_b_1105514.html, ...."The fact that Muhammad Yusuf, who was arrested yesterday and accused of conspiring to commit a terrorist act in New York, was born in the Dominican Republic and that his pre-conversion name is Jose Pimentel'. See ! Even the Latino who committed terrorism is a converted muslim ! A converted muslim !
Now, we don't have a shadow of a doubt that Islam is a satanic cult which can turn its believers into blood thirsty terrorist murderers who are lured by promise of unlimited virgins awaiting them in Islamic paradise( hell in fact ! ), the above Latinos example is an excellent example how this evil cult can turn a normal human being into a violent zombie retard.
The most wanted name listed on FBI website http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/investigate/terrorism/terrorism. are virtually all muslims ! Al-Zawahiri, Al-Nasser, Ali Atwa, Al-Badawi, Izz-A-Din, Shallah, Al-Liby and very soon i'm sure the name sam1528 will be joining the list.
Again, your poorly orchestrated Muhammadan Lies are Self-Destructing into Smithereens !
Run doggy run......run like a scalded scabie doggy.....Run ! You can run but you can't hide !
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wkk5159 posted on 26-4-2013 09:27 PM
I think this pathological Australoid liar should look someting like this.................
sekurang-kurangnya Allah SWt sayang kepada orang Australoid,sebab tu ramai yang dah masuk Islam,berbanding ngan orang mongoloid dan dravidia yang tidak diberi petunjuk oleh Allah SWT.....
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wkk5159 posted on 27-4-2013 09:49 AM
Kakakaka.....since this lecherous toothless doggy ustazy can't even pruduce evidences to refute me but just resorted to defamatory remark that peace loving earthling like me is a liar, i guessi i just have to copy and paste my previous unanswered( can't be refuted forever coz it's truth !) post for everyone to enjoy.... my unique second to none excellent post....
The stinky necrotic VD infected birdy of this lecherous doggy ustazy is getting stinkier everytime he lies.......
Hey lecherous australoid doggy ustazy, you understand the whimsical statistic you copy and paste or not......apparently you don't even know what is terrorism because for you muslim, it's a NORM ! ......
You quoted Basque French Separatist, local nationalism movement which fight for autonomy and independence within Basque region, France; ok then, give us a TANGIBLE EXAMPLE of terrorism act(s) committed by them against innocent civilians on global scale ! What ? there is none ??? You are truly a habitual liar like your pseudo prophet !
Ku Klux Klan which is white supremacist movement based in USA only, again, give us a TANGIBLE EXAMPLE of terrorism act committed by them against innocent civilians on global scale ! What ?? Again there is none ?? Shame on you, you satanic worshipper !
This one even better, Latino terrorists ??? Hold on, let me retrieve this news from http://www.huffingtonpost.com/ga ... ion-_b_1105514.html, ...."The fact that Muhammad Yusuf, who was arrested yesterday and accused of conspiring to commit a terrorist act in New York, was born in the Dominican Republic and that his pre-conversion name is Jose Pimentel'. See ! Even the Latino who committed terrorism is a converted muslim ! A converted muslim !
Now, we don't have a shadow of a doubt that Islam is a satanic cult which can turn its believers into blood thirsty terrorist murderers who are lured by promise of unlimited virgins awaiting them in Islamic paradise( hell in fact ! ), the above Latinos example is an excellent example how this evil cult can turn a normal human being into a violent zombie retard.
The most wanted name listed on FBI website http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/investigate/terrorism/terrorism. are virtually all muslims ! Al-Zawahiri, Al-Nasser, Ali Atwa, Al-Badawi, Izz-A-Din, Shallah, Al-Liby and very soon i'm sure the name sam1528 will be joining the list.
Again, your poorly orchestrated Muhammadan Lies are Self-Destructing into Smithereens !
Run doggy run......run like a scalded scabie doggy.....Run ! You can run but you can't hide !
Ha ha , is that the best you can do? Repeating already refuted argument. Doing the same things and expecting different results is sheer lunacy.
The question now remains :
Why did you lie? The Duke University publication that you cite is about the lessons learned in the case of terrorism and muslims in the US. However you tried to spin the issue to be that only muslims are responsible for global terrorism ignoring the statistical data from the FBI and EUROPOL. Is lying part of your religious beliefs? Oh yeah , how can I forget. rom3:7
Someone might argue, "If my falsehood enhances God's truthfulness and so increases his glory, why am I still condemned as a sinner?"
Ha ha , it is so easy to catch your lie. So how herr SS-Obersturmführer 'wkk5159'?
Last edited by sam1528 on 27-4-2013 12:00 PM
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cmf_BeachBoys posted on 27-4-2013 10:43 AM
sekurang-kurangnya Allah SWt sayang kepada orang Australoid,sebab tu ramai yang dah masuk Islam,be ...
Oh....teruskan mimpi siang hari kamu tu.....ianya sememangnya sesuai dengan sifat semulajadi Australoid yang beragama Islam. 
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sam1528 posted on 27-4-2013 11:58 AM
Ha ha , is that the best you can do? Repeating already refuted argument. Doing the same things and ...
Ooooo.....an unrepent pathological liar ah........ok, fine....i repeat !
The stinky necrotic VD infected birdy of this lecherous doggy ustazy is getting stinkier everytime he lies.......
Hey lecherous australoid doggy ustazy, you understand the whimsical statistic you copy and paste or not......apparently you don't even know what is terrorism because for you muslim, it's a NORM ! ......
You quoted Basque French Separatist, local nationalism movement which fight for autonomy and independence within Basque region, France; ok then, give us a TANGIBLE EXAMPLE of terrorism act(s) committed by them against innocent civilians on global scale ! What ? there is none ??? You are truly a habitual liar like your pseudo prophet !
Ku Klux Klan which is white supremacist movement based in USA only, again, give us a TANGIBLE EXAMPLE of terrorism act committed by them against innocent civilians on global scale ! What ?? Again there is none ?? Shame on you, you satanic worshipper !
This one even better, Latino terrorists ??? Hold on, let me retrieve this news from http://www.huffingtonpost.com/ga ... ion-_b_1105514.html, ...."The fact that Muhammad Yusuf, who was arrested yesterday and accused of conspiring to commit a terrorist act in New York, was born in the Dominican Republic and that his pre-conversion name is Jose Pimentel'. See ! Even the Latino who committed terrorism is a converted muslim ! A converted muslim !
Now, we don't have a shadow of a doubt that Islam is a satanic cult which can turn its believers into blood thirsty terrorist murderers who are lured by promise of unlimited virgins awaiting them in Islamic paradise( hell in fact ! ), the above Latinos example is an excellent example how this evil cult can turn a normal human being into a violent zombie retard.
The most wanted name listed on FBI website http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/investigate/terrorism/terrorism. are virtually all muslims ! Al-Zawahiri, Al-Nasser, Ali Atwa, Al-Badawi, Izz-A-Din, Shallah, Al-Liby and very soon i'm sure the name sam1528 will be joining the list.
Again, your poorly orchestrated Muhammadan Lies are Self-Destructing into Smithereens !
Run doggy run......run like a scalded scabie doggy.....Run ! You can run but you can't hide !
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sam1528 posted on 27-4-2013 11:58 AM
Ha ha , is that the best you can do? Repeating already refuted argument. Doing the same things and ...
You quoted Basque French Separatist, local nationalism movement which fight for autonomy and independence within Basque region, France; ok then, give us a TANGIBLE EXAMPLE of terrorism act(s) committed by them against innocent civilians on global scale ! What ? there is none ??? You are truly a habitual liar like your pseudo prophet !
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gunblade712 posted on 26-4-2013 10:09 PM
kalau judge Islam based on Muslim, memanglah tersilap. Semua manusia tak perfect. Dalam Kristianiti ...
Masalahnya Quran 9:5 & 29 sudah memadai untuk memberi inspirasi kepada pengganas Islam dalam mengerjakan jihad mereka.
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wkk5159 posted on 27-4-2013 01:25 PM
Oh....teruskan mimpi siang hari kamu tu.....ianya sememangnya sesuai dengan sifat semulajadi Austr ...
kami yang bermimpi ke atau korang yang sudah disesatkan syaitan?by the way,syaitan yang mencipta kematian tu takkan mati ke???
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wkk5159 posted on 27-4-2013 01:27 PM
Ooooo.....an unrepent pathological liar ah........ok, fine....i repeat !
The stinky necrotic VD infected birdy of this lecherous doggy ustazy is getting stinkier everytime he lies.......
Hey lecherous australoid doggy ustazy, you understand the whimsical statistic you copy and paste or not......apparently you don't even know what is terrorism because for you muslim, it's a NORM ! ......
You quoted Basque French Separatist, local nationalism movement which fight for autonomy and independence within Basque region, France; ok then, give us a TANGIBLE EXAMPLE of terrorism act(s) committed by them against innocent civilians on global scale ! What ? there is none ??? You are truly a habitual liar like your pseudo prophet !
Ku Klux Klan which is white supremacist movement based in USA only, again, give us a TANGIBLE EXAMPLE of terrorism act committed by them against innocent civilians on global scale ! What ?? Again there is none ?? Shame on you, you satanic worshipper !
This one even better, Latino terrorists ??? Hold on, let me retrieve this news from http://www.huffingtonpost.com/ga ... ion-_b_1105514.html, ...."The fact that Muhammad Yusuf, who was arrested yesterday and accused of conspiring to commit a terrorist act in New York, was born in the Dominican Republic and that his pre-conversion name is Jose Pimentel'. See ! Even the Latino who committed terrorism is a converted muslim ! A converted muslim !
Now, we don't have a shadow of a doubt that Islam is a satanic cult which can turn its believers into blood thirsty terrorist murderers who are lured by promise of unlimited virgins awaiting them in Islamic paradise( hell in fact ! ), the above Latinos example is an excellent example how this evil cult can turn a normal human being into a violent zombie retard.
The most wanted name listed on FBI website http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/investigate/terrorism/terrorism. are virtually all muslims ! Al-Zawahiri, Al-Nasser, Ali Atwa, Al-Badawi, Izz-A-Din, Shallah, Al-Liby and very soon i'm sure the name sam1528 will be joining the list.
Again, your poorly orchestrated Muhammadan Lies are Self-Destructing into Smithereens !
Run doggy run......run like a scalded scabie doggy.....Run ! You can run but you can't hide !
Ha ha , you can repeat how many times you want. No issues with me but it exposes your deceit and desperation.
The question now , why did you lie? Why cite an academic paper which has got nothing to do with global terrorism and you spin it to become global terrorism due to muslims only? Ha ha , it is so easy to catch you lying.
Where is your data on global terrorosm? Give us the statistical data. None so far from you. Dod you bother to read the FBI / EUROPOL site for the so called 'tangibe examples'? Know how to read or not? Ha ha
You must have got your inspiration from the bible , rom3:7
Someone might argue, "If my falsehood enhances God's truthfulness and so increases his glory, why am I still condemned as a sinner?"
So how? Why do you lie and think you can get away with it? Ha ha
Last edited by sam1528 on 27-4-2013 05:29 PM
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Muslims generally are in denial state of the violent nature of their religion as overwhelmingly manifested by muslims here in this forum, this is further consolidated by this latest news;
Why alleged Boston Marathon Bombing Suspects' Mom Clings to Denial ?
http://news.yahoo.com/why-mom-al ... ries-113004676.html
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wkk5159 posted on 27-4-2013 04:23 PM
Masalahnya Quran 9:5 & 29 sudah memadai untuk memberi inspirasi kepada pengganas Islam dalam menge ...
jadi, masalahnya adalah pada manusia, bukan pada ajaran. Aku dah terangkan tentang ayat yang kau quote untuk mengatakan bahawa Islam itu terrorist. Kenapa tak ada rebuttal kpd penerangan aku?
kenapa Muhammad s.a.w. sendiri tak implement ayat tersebut semasa baginda s.a.w. membuka Mekah?
Jelas sekali, ISLAM TIDAK MENGAJAR TERRORISM. |
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Qur'an:8:12 "I shall terrorize the infidels. So wound their bodies and incapacitate them because they oppose Allah and His Apostle."
Qur'an:8:57 "If you gain mastery over them in battle, inflict such a defeat as would terrorize them, so that they would learn a lesson and be warned."
Bukhari:V4B52N220 "Allah's Apostle said, 'I have been made victorious with terror.'"
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wkk5159 posted on 30-4-2013 10:36 AM
Qur'an:8:12 "I shall terrorize the infidels. So wound their bodies and incapacitate them because ...
The issue of terrorism .... stale topic ...
From time immemorial, non-Muslims to use the issue of sex and terrorism ... all the answers in the old topic
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Rom 3:7-8 Did Paul admits that he lied indeed?
Muslims and atheists alike use these words of Paul as backfire against himself. They said he admitted, he lied for God’s truth to abound, but who in his right mind, logically speaking would admits he lies, when his purpose was to convince people of the truth. A simple logic seem a rational defense, much so, if the original texts and appropriate definitions are supplied.
Ro 3:7 “For if the truth of God hath more abounded through my lie unto his glory; why yet am I also judged as a sinner?
Ro 3:8 And not [rather], (as we be slanderously reported, and as some affirm that we say,)Let us do evil, that good may come? whose damnation is just.”
Let’s employ the original Greek words and appropriate meanings.
Ro 3:7-8 “For if the truth of God hath more abounded through my lie unto his glory; why yet am I judged as a sinner and [ALSO (me)], [IN AS MUCH AS (kathos)] [WE ARE MALIGNED (blasphemoumethos)], and (kai) [IN AS MUCH AS (kathos)] some affirm that we say Let us do evil, that good may come whose damnation is just.”
What did Paul mean?
IF THE TRUTH OF GOD MORE ABOUNDED THRU MY LIE IS THE SAME AS SAYING, LET US DO EVIL THAT GOOD MAY COME as by the comparative conjunction “kathos” or IN AS MUCH AS, implying, similitude between the two. Paul is retorting back to Christians in Rome, implying, some of you said that I preached LET US DO EVIL FOR GOOD TO COME but why do you judge me a sinners if I lied allegedly for truth to come, when the judgment for both is damnation? He didn’t admits he lies but only giving a proposition, “IF”.
IF THE TRUTH OF GOD MORE ABOUNDED THRU MY LIE THEN WHY YET I AM JUDGED AS A SINNER?
Paul was not saying he lie, but only a reply to Christians in Rome as by context was accused of as lying for the truth to abound. Contextually, Paul was accused of as lying and not that he admits guilt of lying bec, as he concluded, the verdict for those who say, let us do evil for good to abound, IN AS MUCH AS (or equally) saying, if you lie for truth to abound more is both damnation.
“For if the truth of God hath more abounded through my lie unto his glory; why yet am I judged as a sinner and ALSO, IN AS MUCH AS WE ARE MALIGNED, and IN AS MUCH AS, some affirm that we say Let us do evil, that good may come WHOSE DAMNATION IS JUST.”
For if the truth of God hath more abounded through my lie unto his glory
IN AS MUCH AS…we say Let us do evil, that good may come
WHOSE DAMNATION IS JUST
It is rather clear that lying for truth to abound is equally the same (as implied by the words IN AS MUCH AS) as saying, let us do evil that good may come. Both have a verdict likewise equally applied, that is damnation.
“For if the truth of God hath more abounded through my lie unto his glory; why yet am I judged as a sinner IN AS MUCH AS, some affirm that we say Let us do evil, that good may come WHOSE DAMNATION IS JUST”
The verdict when you lie for truth to abound more?
Paul said, …whose damnation is just.
The Greek word used for damnation in the verse is “krima” which means a decision (judgment), from the word “krino” to condemn or punish. Contextually, damnation is the right translation as a decision or judgment on preaching to do evil would still be damnation. Lying for truth to abound more, being parallel with it, has likewise therefore the same condemnation.
Paul was accused of as preaching Christians to do evil for good, contrary to God.
1Pt 3:12 but the face of the Lord is against them that do evil.
Preaching contrary against God is heretical. Being heretical merits condemnation.
Ti 3:10 A man that is an heretic after the first and second admonition reject;
Ti 3:11 Knowing that he that is such is subverted, and sinneth, being condemned of himself.
Preaching Damnable Heresies as doing evil for good to come, is evil, it makes one a false teacher.
2Pt 2:1 . But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction.
Thus the judgment: and bring upon themselves swift destruction
Jn 5:29 And shall come forth; they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life; and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation.
Saying let us do evil that good may come is a heretical act, which according to Paul is like-saying I LIE FOR TRUTH TO ABOUND MORE, which he says has the same judgment, that is damnation.
Is there any man who wants damnation as his judgment? Paul never admitted lying but instead the opposite.
Ro 9:1 “I say the truth in Christ, I lie not, my conscience also bearing me witness in the Holy Ghost,”
2C 11:31 “The God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, which is blessed for evermore, knoweth that I lie not.”
Ga 1:20 “Now the things which I write unto you, behold, before God, I lie not.”
Thus conclusively, he was only accused of AS lying therefore, responded in that manner.
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wkk5159 posted on 30-4-2013 02:45 PM
Rom 3:7-8 Did Paul admits that he lied indeed?
Muslims and atheists alike use these words of Paul a ...
Ha ha , a lie is still a lie. Paul did not admit that he lied by giving a proposition 'if'? Did you read the verse in context? Rom3:7 clearly stated 'if' one lie for the glory of the biblical God .... why should he be a sinner.
This can be seen clearly by cross referencing 3 verses :
rom3:7
Someone might argue, “If my falsehood enhances God’s truthfulness and so increases his glory, why am I still condemned as a sinner?”
phil1:18
But what does it matter? The important thing is that in every way, whether from false motives or true, Christ is preached. And because of this I rejoice.
2cor12:16
Be that as it may, I have not been a burden to you. Yet, crafty fellow that I am, I caught you by trickery!
The understanding is simple , you ('wkk5159') can lie for the glory of your biblecal God as taught by Paul.
Ha ha , you are doing it very well though .....
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wkk5159 posted on 30-4-2013 10:36 AM
Qur'an:8:12 "I shall terrorize the infidels. So wound their bodies and incapacitate them because ...
Pasal Surah At-Taubah, kau taknak komen apa2, kau terus quote ayat lain pulak? Amende kau ni? main lompat2, sampai bila nak habis?
Then again, those verse masih boleh di terangkan dan masih boleh dipertunjukkan kat mana kau (atau mana2 website yang kau quote) tersalah tafsir. Give me a minute..
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wkk5159 posted on 30-4-2013 10:36 AM
Qur'an:8:12 "I shall terrorize the infidels. So wound their bodies and incapacitate them because ... Qur'an:8:12 "I shall terrorize the infidels. So wound their bodies and incapacitate them because they oppose Allah and His Apostle."
This verse was sent down during the Battle of Badr. Why don't you fully quote this verse?
[Remember] when your Lord inspired to the angels, "I am with you, so strengthen those who have believed. I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieved, so strike [them] upon the necks and strike from them every fingertip." http://quran.com/8/12
Yup, you've guessed it; it's not an order to the Muslims. The verse was sent down during the Battle of Badr. During that time, the Muslims were outnumbered. I'm sure YOU know about this, right @wkk5159 ? The prophet made a prayer to Allah, asking for help, and this verse was sent down in response to the prophet's supplication. It DID NOT SAY that MUSLIMS SHOULD TERRORIZE THE NON-BELIEVERS. The verse was sent down during war. This shows that our deen is complete, it even teaches us about war and how to conduct it.
Qur'an:8:57 "If you gain mastery over them in battle, inflict such a defeat as would terrorize them, so that they would learn a lesson and be warned."
It's funny how the word 'terrorize' was not used in the translation from Quran.com :
Sahih International
So if you, [O Muhammad], gain dominance over them in war, disperse by [means of] them those behind them that perhaps they will be reminded.
Muhsin Khan
So if you gain the mastery over them in war, punish them severely in order to disperse those who are behind them, so that they may learn a lesson.
Pickthall
If thou comest on them in the war, deal with them so as to strike fear in those who are behind them, that haply they may remember.
Yusuf Ali
If ye gain the mastery over them in war, disperse, with them, those who follow them, that they may remember.
Shakir
Therefore if you overtake them in fighting, then scatter by (making an example of) them those who are in their rear, that they may be mindful.
Dr. Ghali
So definitely in case you ever catch them in the war, then deal with them so as to disperse the ones (who1..are) behind them, that possibly they would constantly remember.
Malay
Oleh itu, jika engkau menemui mereka dalam peperangan maka hancurkanlah mereka (supaya dengan itu) orang-orang yang di belakang mereka (gerun gentar); mudah-mudahan orang-orang itu pula beringat (insaf).
http://quran.com/8/57
It would be nice if you can share with us the Arabic word that you've translated to "terrorize" so that we might dive in-depth to this verse.
Again, I would like to ask you, why didn't you quote the full context of the story? Verse number 61, OF THE SAME SURAH, says :
And if they incline to peace, then incline to it [also] and rely upon Allah . Indeed, it is He who is the Hearing, the Knowing. (Glorious Quran; 8:61) http://quran.com/8/61
You are being so unfair by quoting the Quran according to your whim. In fact, you even quoted HALF of the verse just to convey your ideas behind the verse.
Bukhari:V4B52N220 "Allah's Apostle said, 'I have been made victorious with terror.'"
Again, let me fully quote the hadith :
Narrated By Abu Huraira : Allah's Apostle said, "I have been sent with the shortest expressions bearing the widest meanings, and I have been made victorious with terror (cast in the hearts of the enemy), and while I was sleeping, the keys of the treasures of the world were brought to me and put in my hand." Abu Huraira added: Allah's Apostle has left the world and now you, people, are bringing out those treasures (i.e. the Prophet did not benefit by them).
Do you know what is the word in the bracket? Those are the explanations and the understanding of the hadith according to the scholars that lived before us. The scholars concluded that based on their research and findings after learning BOTH THE QURAN AND THE SUNNAH. This is what the early commentators of this hadith and the early scholars and the people that knew Prophet Muhammad know what the Prophet meant when he said that.
Again, I will ask you, if the Prophet s.a.w. were taught to use terrorism, why didn't he just crashed through Mecca and kill the infidels? Why didn't he slay all of the Meccans after he open up Mecca and gain power over the people?
I've asked this numerous times, but you've always avoid answering it. In fact, my explanations on Surah At-Taubah (which you have quoted) goes unanswered, and you start a new question from another surah (WHICH YOU HAVE NOT QUOTED FULLY).
What the heck @wkk5159 ? Last edited by gunblade712 on 2-5-2013 11:04 AM
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Post time 27-4-2013 09:23 AM
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