THE EXISTENCE OF GOD FROM ISLAM'S PERSPECTIVE

mnm77

I don't understand your question.

A mere saying of syahadah without full conviction in heart does not make one became Muslim automatically

mnm77

I cannot feel Allah but I feel the power and greatness of Allah over everything

Probably Imaan (which is hard to explain) is something as a connection with Allah

wei_loon5063

Originally posted by mnm77 at 14-6-2007 12:14 AM

Probably Imaan (which is hard to explain) is something as a connection with Allah

How?

Why is it only Imaan can connect to Allah only? why not you?

mnm77

Allah has no relation with his creations.

The only accepted relation is:

Allah is our Creator
We are his creation (or servant)

Imaan = Faith in Allah, the sronger the Imaan the stronger belief

With strong Imaan, Allah helps him in many difficult situation

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wei_loon5063

Originally posted by mnm77 at 14-6-2007 12:22 AM
Allah is our Creator
We are his creation (or servant)

Imaan = Faith in Allah, the sronger the Imaan the stronger belief

I see.... one more question... you are Allah`s slave... when you are in heaven you get eternal bliss and get some power rom allah... do you serve Allah in heaven too?

maaf la.. saya ni banyak soalan

With strong Imaan, Allah helps him in many difficult situation

This Iman you mention is Iman as in kata nama as in faith...

or Iman as in people`s occupation like Haji, Iman, Bilal?

mnm77

I tried to answer honestly. No problem.

But I have to go after this...(my last post today)

In heaven, Allah does not ask to serve Him anymore. He will be pleased with those who are in heaven.

The greatest joy in heaven is to see Allah in His Real Form. We can't understand this here in this world. Even by seeing the beauty of the gate of heaven, people will stuck there for 40 years...

Iman ~ Faith ~ Belief in Allah

loona

Originally posted by wei_loon5063 at 14-6-2007 12:27 AM


I see.... one more question... you are Allah`s slave... when you are in heaven you get eternal bliss and get some power rom allah... do you serve Allah in heaven too?

maaf la.. saya ni  ...

Weiloon,
two different words here...
IMAN = faith as what mnm77 explained
IMAM = person, occupation, ketua masjid, ketua agama, tok imam, the one that lead the prayer.

Sephiroth

Originally posted by mnm77 at 13-6-2007 05:22 PM
I'm not saying you're afraid of death. What I meant to say, when the time near your death, you will realise the power of GOD. Anyhow, maybe you're not feeling that at the moment...

Just a matt ...

If you can only feel the "power of God" when you are about to die, then that is not God, that is your "sins" coming back to haunt you when you are weak and pathetic. People like you don't bother about God. All they bother is how much rewards they will get in heaven and how they can riddicule others for being no believers.

True God is with me (and everyone who believes in Him) at ALL TIMES. What do I need to be afraid of Death then?

Your so-called "ower of God" is not that of God's. :no:

ussopp

[78:40] We have sufficiently warned you about an imminent retribution. That is the day when everyone will examine what his hands have sent forth, and the disbeliever will say, "Oh, I wish I were dust."

generally, dust will not be adjudicated...

but we, human, will be rensponsible for what we have done, what we have said,  for every word...

Sephiroth

Originally posted by ussopp at 15-6-2007 09:58 AM


generally, dust will not be adjudicated...

but we, human, will be rensponsible for what we have done, what we have said,  for every word...

Go and preach to your fellow Muslims.

witara

Originally posted by mnm77 at 14-6-2007 12:40 AM
....In heaven, Allah does not ask to serve Him anymore. ....

  Are u sure this going to happen in Islam perspectives? Errrmmm... Somekind like humans are going to kick Allah's butt, and thing goes round again... New generations of Satans after Lucifer..

mnm77

yes I'm sure but I don't force others to believe the same. Nobody will have power more than Allah.

You are free to believe whatever suits you...

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witara

:hmm: :hmm: :hmm:

SONofODIN

78 killed by bombing at Baghdad mosque



BAGHDAD - A truck bomber attacked a revered Shiite shrine in the heart of Baghdad on Tuesday, killing at least 78 people and wounding more than 200 in a resumption of Iraq's relentless sectarian slaughter. The mosque's turquoise dome survived, but the blast buried some worshippers and badly burned others................


Police said a truck piled high with electric fans and air conditioners delivered the huge bomb at the Khulani mosque. The powerful explosion in the busy commercial district cut deep into Iraq's Shiite community on just the second day after authorities lifted a four-day curfew in the capital.
The vehicle ban had been imposed to prevent revenge attacks after a bombing last week brought down twin golden minarets at the important Shiite al-Askariya shrine in Samarra, north of the capital. A bombing that destroyed the golden dome there on Feb. 26, 2006 set in motion the sectarian bloodletting that has sundered the sectarian fault line in Iraq.
Tuesday's bombing was presumed to have been carried out by a Sunni attacker because the target was a Shiite mosque. The Khulani mosque's imam, Sheik Saleh al-Haidari, said bombing was particularly deadly because worshippers were just leaving a prayer service.
"This attack was planned and carried out by sick souls," al-Haidari told The Associated Press by telephone. He said his office and the room above collapsed but that he was not in the mosque at the time of the attack.

SONofODIN

How come Allah never protect this mosque and the people? But Allah protect the mosque from being swept away by tsunami. Doesn't make sense.

barney50

SONofODIN,

No! You are wrong my friend. It make sense to anta, KENKID, mnm77, eastrun, anti_aktivis, Obislutenant and Iman_6. These people are experts of Islam and in their previous life had lived during the time of their prophet to know all. They can relate exactly what happened during the time of Mohammed. They feel the Arabs are stupid Muslims while they, whose ancestors were converts of Islam became masters of the Arab's religion and we the non Muslims are ingnorant of Islam's beauty that we see through the eyes of Islamic terrorist.

Anything we say or post about the evil of Islamic teachings is ignorance on our part while the lies written by their so called Muslim scholars are facts. That is the perception of those above.

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mnm77

It is bacause you don't understand that Allah has absolute power whether to save or to destroy something. You can never understand by just thinking without learning the teaching of Islam properly.

One day, the whole universe will be destroyed by Allah. This is His absolute decision and discretion.

mnm77

Many of your statements about Islam are wrong and the way you attack Islam showing your igrorance..

You should adopt the way to ask politely something about Islam if you don't understand. Accept the explanation from Muslims, but you always show you have more understanding of Islam and condemn Islam and Muslims.

It is impossible that you know Islam better than the scholars of Islam, by just reading some translation without guidance from an honest Muslim teacher.

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I may be wrong to you because I speak the truth. I understand Islam very well and that is why I am against the teachings according to the hadith. The Quran too is not the original as it had gone through veting by  Uthman after Abu bakar ordered the compilation. So only what was relevant to the caliph was accepted and the rest were either destroyed or hidden buried in deep in the ground. Some of it had surfaced recently during the excavation in Yeman. The scholars of Islam would lie to propagade Islam so I would not bellieve their writings either. Too many contradiction and variation in interpretation by Ullams and Ustaz makes Islam the most confused religion in the world. That is why no Muslim can convience me that Islam is a religion of peace and tolorance. I was watching a programe over TV1 tonight where the Malaysian Mercy mission to Iraq was attacked by Islamic terrorist. You see these misguided Muslims truned into animals against their own brotherns due to the teachings of the hadith and corrupted Quran. You have to understand that my friend.

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loona

Oklah abang Barney, we are so tired of being labeled of doing not the right things..being told the contradiction by ulamak, being learning the corrupted Quran & Hadith...

So what's the right thing in Islam? What  scripture we can refer to? Which leader we should follow? Please enlighten us, I have been asking so many times from you...
I'm confused..We dont want to be an animal and we want to stay in islam, and we also want to learn the right knowledge of islam from you..