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and ramai org kata, kalau bayar beribu2 to registered agent pun, boleh kena tipu, and tak semestinya maid tu bagus..
betul..kita ni dealing with human..risk tu sentiasa ada..
tp kalau kita upfront dah fikir negative, dont you think the aura vibrated to your maid?
i tulis ni pun based on my own experience..
i've tried both registered and non-registered..risk dia sama.. |
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before i forget, setau i, u ambil dari non-registered ke, registered ke..kalau kena tipu, u can stil drag the non-registered agent to tribunal pengguna..just make sure you have complete documents untuk file pertuduhan..
and talk about desperation, when it comes to maid, who is not desperate..especially bila maid lari..habis tunggang langgang hidup you..nak kena ambil EL lagi from work..
but, like i have said before, kan sekarang indonesia ada ramai maid dia yg tak bekerja..so sebenarnya, maids dia pun tak sabar2 nak masuk msia..govt dia je control..
since kita bayar mahal, pls be choosy..dont just take the first one available..
bayar JP visa mahal2, sah2 maid dah ada kat msia..interview them, tgk character camne..
mmg takde gerenti 100%, tp at least you get the right to see them first before hiring them..
mmg ada certain agent maid dia yg masuk, satu, satu..but trust me..if you exhausted your efforts, you will find one yg ada maid masuk 2-3 people, every week..doa, doa, doa.. |
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just evaluate the cost..tgk with that rate that you pay, berbaloi ke maid tu..trained?
i think ada somebody mentioned psl nak cari kat batam tadi..
since i tak pernah pergi batam, i wont know tp bukan kat this thread ke kata kat situ kena careful, byk ada STD, HIV, etc..
alang2 nak cari ke indon, why not go to training center yg actually allocate the maids to go to singapore and hong kong..quality dia tak sama ngan other maids....
ooo..by the way, not just us malaysians yg complain...
my indonesian friends also complains the maids that is available for them in indonesia are of lousy and low quality.. |
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aiks?!!! RM100 jer?? Awat aku dengar dapat RM1000 sorang dah?
kikilalat Post at 27-9-2011 20:00 
supaya tak timbul salah faham..bling2 tanya baki.... so baki hutang rm2800,ekceli dia hutang rm3800, dr 1 aug minta....puas dah mintak mcm " " akhirnya 12hb sept jam 5.16 ptg..dapat bayaran RM1000,janji lg beberapa hari settle full............akhirnya 25 sept masuk ler kt my cimb rm100... .. |
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i dont think so..i think mahal ada cecah 12K tp tak lebih pada pinoy maid..
kalau mahal camtu, ...
Ariys21 Post at 27-9-2011 20:51 
Yup.. Agreed.. If amik tru agensi 8-9k jer kosnyer for indon.. Potong 4-5 bln gaji which is lbh kurang jer ngn ind agen yg caj 6500 all in.. Tp, since most agensi yg aku pegi ckp xder stok, trpaksa la gamble ngn agen ind yg ntah jujur ntah penipu ni..
Talking bout maid pati ni.. Aku rela hntr neseri after kasen aku kena rompak ngn indon atas deal maid pati dier tu.. Biasalah indon dtg sini nk cari duit.. Yg haram pon bantai jer.. Thn.. A fren of mine kena hapetitis.. Almost whole famili.. Yerlah.. Dh xder permit n passport, camner nk wat medikal cek up.. Kos merawat dh baper habis.. Paling kesian, anak2 dier laaa.. Tu yg aku avoid mkn mskan maid.. Besides all the black magic, takut penyakit brjangkit yg hibernate dlm bdn dier.. Nauzubillah.. |
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supaya tak timbul salah faham..bling2 tanya baki.... so baki hutang rm2800,ekceli dia hutan ...
intanmz Post at 27-9-2011 22:57
Uisk... Solat hajat byk2 mntk agen refund duit u in full.. At least leh rolling utk amik maid lain.. N keep track properly.. |
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Reply 805# nurryn
Ya Allah kesiannya kawan u tu..  |
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Yup.. Agreed.. If amik tru agensi 8-9k jer kosnyer for indon.. Potong 4-5 bln gaji which is lbh ...
nurryn Post at 27-9-2011 23:26
after pembekuan maid dr indon..mana2 agent berdaftar mostly mmg dah stop maid from indon...yg ada lain like pinoy etc..so semua yg masuk 2 years lately semua pakai JP Visa n kalau g indon rumah2 PT penampungan ( utk training pun tutup) sbb govt sana bekukan....cara yg ada juz masuk as pelancong n sampai sini apply JP VIsa...sbb itu skrg ni menjadi2 hal agent ni... |
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Uisk... Solat hajat byk2 mntk agen refund duit u in full.. At least leh rolling utk amik maid lain ...
nurryn Post at 27-9-2011 23:30
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Reply 807# Mulan
X brbaloi kn..
My frens mostly my age.. Time tu, nk kuar 7-8k mmg berat laa.. Since ader option nk save dats much for a maid, why not la kn.. Ngn naive nyer psal possible bad incidents.. Tu yg amik cheaper way.. Cam i pulak, time tu x berani amik pati takut kena tangkap jer.. Langsung x trpk yg indon2 ni jenis bwk penyakit.. Lgi 1, my agent ckp.. Rmai yg ader siflis.. Tu psal diorg wat medikal kt sna siap2, takut sangkut kt cni, rugi.: |
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Reply 804# intanmz
yes..kes intanmz sama sebijik dgn kes i, dia hutang kami berdua dalam amount yg lebih kurang sama..saya apply for maid from early july selepas 3kali dia x dpt nak deliver, what does she expect??? saya nak move on, nak cari maid lain sbb dia x dpt nak deliver what's she promise masalahnye kita ni duit bukannye berbakul, so duit yg ada pada dia tu la yg akan kami rolling untuk find another maid..since our problem yang pakai maid ni x settle lagi..
tp bila asik tangguh..janji..jani..janji..sapa tahan..dgn masalah kt rumah yang memerlukan maid segera, nak ambik maid, duit 'org tu' pegang..so apa option yg ada?? nak suruh kami paham masalah dia, dia kene tipu dgn agen indon whatsoever, so masalah kami ni ada dia nak pikir...???
dia hutang lg rm2300, last baya sama macam intanmz rm100, sakitnya hati after berjanji bagai nak settle, rm100 je dia masukkan..tp sebab saya ni manusia yg ada hati..I'll give her until end of this month to return ALL my money..ingat saya pon ada masalah lain yang nak kene pikir, jgn ingat hidup dia je tertekan sbb org mintak duit, dah pegang duit org lama2 mmg itula hukum dunia..hutang mestila dituntut..
i know she smsed kak bling suruh tolong dia apa yang patut, but kak bling please advise her to just return our money..our hard earned money..duit tabung haji tu saya keluarkan.. |
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mine i paid around 9K..but mine is trained so, so far, i think okay..
Ariys21 Post at 27-9-2011 08:51 PM 
Arisy... Thot ur maid fees around 11k the other day u mentioned?
Or is that just the fees not inclusive the advance salary? |
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If amik tru agensi 8-9k jer kosnyer for indon..
nurryn Post at 27-9-2011 11:26 PM
Nurryn... Kos amik indon maids dah sama dengan pinoy maids  |
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Reply intanmz
yes..kes intanmz sama sebijik dgn kes i, dia hutang kami berdua dalam amoun ...
shamintan Post at 28-9-2011 10:02 
i salute u semua la.....dah kena mcm ni pun masih jaga lagi aib orang yang yang terlibat, masih tak disclose sapa orangnya dan masih sabar menanti.
orang2 yang sabar ni insyaallah, ganjarannya sangat besar. |
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i salute u semua la.....dah kena mcm ni pun masih jaga lagi aib orang yang yang terlibat, m ...
zxcv Post at 28-9-2011 11:22
mudah-mudahan cepatlah 'orang tu' pulangkan duet diaorang ni... |
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sy memang hormat dia orang kat sini yang jaga aib orang yang terlibat, tapi orang yang terlibat boleh bercakap dengan orang lain bahawasanya berhati hati dengan orang yang tak pernah pun nak menipu orang lain.... kalau majikan tunggu 8 jam tapi agent tak muncul disebabkan oleh hal kecemasan, agent tu telah dicanangkan kepada semua yang agent tu tak boleh dipercayai sehingga semua orang beranggapan begitu.... tapi kalau majikan tunggu sampai 8 bulan duit dia orang tak dipulangkan... kenapa semua nak cover lagi?..... kenapa takda ingat mengingat antara satu sama lain? owwhh... sbb 'dia' orang lama kat sini.... dan semua berfikiran yang orang baru ni mmg menipu lah..... |
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Nurryn... Kos amik indon maids dah sama dengan pinoy maids
eddina_14 Post at 28-9-2011 11:04 
x jugak eddina... pinoy tru agensi skang ni dh 12k..
tp, tu laaa... nk dpt yg muslim susah sket aaa... nk kena tunggu lama.. |
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Reply 817# nurryn
Nurryn...Tgk agensi jugak...Like agensi yg dina amik, same fees 8.5k for muslim maids...
Cuma supply memang kurang dari non-muslim maids... |
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Nak share satu letter from a reader:
I FAIL to understand the Malaysian mindset.
Home Minister Datuk Seri Hishammuddin Hussein said recently that 2.3 million foreigners (legal or illegal), a substantial number being children and young adults, have been registered by the authorities.
This could have implications in terms of our country's security. Yet, we have been pressured by certain groups, including parents, about the need to bring in more foreigners as maids.
In their obsession for having maids, they seem to be oblivious that one day, we will be flooded with them such that our children and grandchildren's future will be jeopardised.
We will also end up having our children speaking in a dialect or intonation that is not ours. Let's not talk about the polemics over the English language being in jeopardy. There may come a time when English is spoken with intonations that are no longer the Manglish we are familiar with.
We repeatedly talk about our country moving into developed nation status. But developed nations like the United States, Britain or Australia don't recruit foreign maids like we do.
Maid services there are so expensive because they are professionally trained. If one wants to have a maid, then one must be willing to pay.
I am a wife, mother of eight children and a successful health professional who spent almost 38 years as a government servant. I also spent eight years in the US and I never had house maids.
My first five children were born in the US while I was doing my specialty training. The US law does not allow us to bring in maids from anywhere and we did not have much money to employ a maid anyway.
We coped and learned from our friends on how to survive the American way. We learned about our community's contributions and we learned what neighbourliness is all about.
We also learned that what you pay is what you get. There is no such thing as cheap labour. There are also rules that we must abide by to ensure our children are safe and never alone at home or anywhere else.
Most importantly, we learned that child minding means only that. We did not expect a person, particularly a maid, to do every single thing -- from child minding, cleaning windows and garages, cooking meals and even washing cars.
Yes, it was hard work with plenty of sacrifices. It was about not wanting my child to say "mum and dad are so busy, that's why we don't make it in school work".
We taught our children family values, responsibility, independence and the need for teamwork, mentoring them to be the adults they are today, holding good positions and going far in their education.
We are thankful that they remain close to each other and to us, and they try to live the values we have inculcated in them.
My daughter-in-law is a graduate who still found time to work from home in between ferrying her children to and from the kindergarten.
Calculating her earnings, she decided it was not going to give her the extras, after considering the lost bonding time with her children.
Frankly, it is worth the effort and extra mile we put in during our younger days to see our children grow into wonderful adults. It is a matter of love, sacrifice and determination to overcome the challenges.
However, it is only fair to say there are certain policies and facilities that are made available to families in developed countries.
There should be a move here to open up more professional butler-like/ maid schools with certificates, binding rules and regulations to protect their rights and give the respect due to them as professionals.
We can't be expecting cheap labour all the time. Neighbourliness and teamwork should come into play. For instance, flat and apartment managements should have gotong-royong community nurseries.
The Thais are very good at this. They are not dependent on their government all the time. Instead, the community is empowered to help themselves. At the end of the day, they do get the support of professional workers from the government, while extra helping hands come from housewives or young adults in the community taking turns to help to mind these nurseries or after-school programmes.
It's a win-win situation where local agencies and the government provide the space while the community mans the facilities. The neighbours minding the nurseries are provided an honorarium.
Flexible working hours would help so that there's always one parent to send their children to school or elsewhere while another brings them home. Of course, the alternative is to build more crèches at the workplace.
Another would be to create part-time employment for housewives mobile enough to come to your house between 7am to 5pm daily. But avoid letting them go home late every single day. Remember, they have their own families, too.
However one looks at it, we must learn to be independent in the way we manage our families and our lives. If we still desperately want maid services from other developing countries, then we should only employ the ones already registered. Why bring in more?
We are putting ourselves in a vulnerable state by looking so desperate or in dire need of outside help. We should not blame other nations or people for playing the "hard-to-get" game. The reality is, one cannot have everything, and one cannot live with excuses all the time.
From my experience, I can say that it was hard work juggling our lives when we were young, but we are enjoying the fruits of our labour today.
One only needs to be determined and visionary, innovative and creative in how one handles family living. Nothing, believe me, is impossible. |
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Post time 27-9-2011 09:10 PM
