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Truth.8 posted on 13-7-2013 07:04 PM 
the verses which says do not make friend with jews and christian...which holy book says this??
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u only read that verse but u didn't analyse the verse behind it.... study further and u know the answer.... we know the answer is to not believe as what they believe but to believe in the 4 holy books that includes Zabur, Taurat, Injil and Quran.... have you learn all four of them? Don't extract one verse and you think you know it all..... |
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sam1528 posted on 13-7-2013 07:33 PM
Ha ha , but you are a confirmed idiot. A deceiving one some more. When refuted you change your sta ... Ha ha , but you are a confirmed idiot. A deceiving one some more. When refuted you change your stance very easily which shows that you are very good at shifting the goalposts. This is evidence of your dishonesty. You really got to do something about your comprehension. Its really rotten.
well , is not for you to judge rather peoples frm this forum. juding from this post , i noticed you twisted this topic on the terrorist . you comparing american soild and world wide..
too bad you never learn but twisting again and again
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cmf_BeachBoys posted on 13-7-2013 10:52 PM
kristian ajar ko mintak hadiah ke kalau ko diminta jawab soalan????
abis itu..muslims buat baik, dpt pahala dan anjaran ..
salah ke saya minta hadiah??
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Dzulqarnain posted on 14-7-2013 01:37 AM
You mean this (whole) verse...? “Oh you who believe (in this Qur’an), do not take (such) Jews and Christians as friends and allies who themselves are friends and allies of each other. And whoever of you (Muslims) turn to them (with friendship and alliance) becomes, verily, one of them; behold, Allah does not guide such evildoers.”
(Qur’an, al-Maidah, 5:51) 
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tahilalatmanis posted on 14-7-2013 05:10 AM
u only read that verse but u didn't analyse the verse behind it.... study further and u know the a ... u only read that verse but u didn't analyse the verse behind it.... study further and u know the answer.... we know the answer is to not believe as what they believe but to believe in the 4 holy books that includes Zabur, Taurat, Injil and Quran.... have you learn all four of them? Don't extract one verse and you think you know it all.....
i see....than how come when muslims like deedat , zakir naik and few others like condem or attacked the Bible when they pick and choses verses rather studying it whole Bible with good proper Bible scholar??
even myself not able to understand the Bible fully....can make negative statments??
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Truth.8 posted on 14-7-2013 06:57 PM
yup...thats my point....clearly this cannot be god words...
I don't know.
What is wrong with the alliance/friendly ties between Jews and Christians?
- normally gentiles quite clueless answering this...
Yes, you judge yourself. 
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Truth.8 posted on 14-7-2013 06:59 PM
i see....than how come when muslims like deedat , zakir naik and few others like condem or att ...
These scholars (such as Ahmad Deedat, Zakir Naik, etc) condemn the EDITED VERSON of the bible... the bible that you read are actually re-written base on the authors' understanding and interpretation.... some facts were missing, misled and wrongly interpreted into many languages during the translations... we muslims only believed in the ORIGINAL BIBLE...
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It is not wrong to make friends with other races/religions but do not follow their believe or what they say or do blindly... Muslims do not make allies with the wrong doers.... Muslims must stick with their believes and continue to upgrade their iman... that is why read the Quran tirelessly and understand the meaning religiously... and yet a good Muslim still can live peacefully with other believers... as stated in the Quran....
Say, "O disbelievers (Non-Muslims),
I do not worship what you worship.
Nor are you worshippers of what I worship.
Nor will I be a worshipper of what you worship.
Nor will you be worshippers of what I worship.
For you is your religion, and for me is my religion.”
Surah Al-Kafirun
In brief, this ayat is brought down to Prophet Muhammad saw when the Quraish tried to negotiate with him into worshipping their god (idols) for a day and they will in return worship Allah for a day, consecutively.... in Islam, we do not negotiate or take part in such agreement just to please the non-Muslims.... |
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tahilalatmanis posted on 15-7-2013 08:59 AM
These scholars (such as Ahmad Deedat, Zakir Naik, etc) condemn the EDITED VERSON of the bible... t ... These scholars (such as Ahmad Deedat, Zakir Naik, etc) condemn the EDITED VERSON of the bible... the bible that you read are actually re-written base on the authors' understanding and interpretation.... some facts were missing, misled and wrongly interpreted into many languages during the translations... we muslims only believed in the ORIGINAL BIBLE...
Muslims like you and deedat and their gangs have no right to make statments that the Bible corrupt vice versa. firstly, muslims doing this in bad intention, secondly, muslims did not study with Bible scholar. they read by themselves and made such judgement. which is totally wrong.
before debate in public about Bible, one should with sincere study it thur professional Bible scholar. besides, research should be done also not just attacked the Bible.
Thrid, muslims consider tounge twister . why? they will mentioned Muhamaad mentioned in OT and NT...later they twiste again sayings Bible is corrupt.
Fourth, Muslims consider like parrots....they will take combat kit or anti Christians site to attacked the Bible.
Fifth, muslims think they choosen one...which I view totally bull shitttt
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tahilalatmanis posted on 15-7-2013 09:28 AM
It is not wrong to make friends with other races/religions but do not follow their believe or what t ...
If you think your allah is all powerful....your allah can use his power to wipe out the jews and christians....yet muslims country suffering most all the times
Think
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Dzulqarnain posted on 15-7-2013 12:54 AM
I don't know.
What is wrong with the alliance/friendly ties between Jews and Christians?
- norma ... I don't know.
What is wrong with the alliance/friendly ties between Jews and Christians?
- normally gentiles quite clueless answering this...
Yes, you judge yourself. 
if your allah is all peace loving to souls...does make sense such words comes from god??
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Truth.8 posted on 15-7-2013 11:47 AM
Muslims like you and deedat and their gangs have no right to make statments that the Bible cor ...
these scholars studies your bible and compare with the original one.... have u read the original version? at least what we did is to make you aware... it is up to you to believe it or not... the starts of all these debate when you ppl questioned about Islam... and now you said this just to cover up your mistakes.... so sad.....
I have a Christian friend too.. we never debate but when she asked I answer honestly... She also respect my answer and my believes.... She never say we are bad ppl.... so it goes back to you... She even said, last time her church believe that Jesus is God, but now they change as Son of God.... why the change?
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Truth.8 posted on 15-7-2013 11:49 AM
If you think your allah is all powerful....your allah can use his power to wipe out the jews and ...
and why are you still in muslim country? Aren't you aware that natural disasters happening in Christian countries too...? What is happening in Muslim countries are done by humans ie the non-believers... haven't you studies the news?
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Truth.8 posted on 14-7-2013 06:53 PM
well , is not for you to judge rather peoples frm this forum. juding from this post , i noticed ...
Ha ha , why are you contradicting yourself? You are judging a whole religion based on your spurious claims. Now you say it is not for one to judge another? Maybe you should say such thing in front of a mirror.
It was you who asked for FBI data and I provided it. I have also provided the link for the worldwide data. Don't blame others if your comprehension is rotten. The one who is continuously shifting the goalposts is you.
One day you will start hissing instead of talking ..... ha ha
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sam1528 posted on 15-7-2013 12:55 PM
Ha ha , why are you contradicting yourself? You are judging a whole religion based on your spuriou ...
Bingo I caught you again and again you lying. lying during fasting month? did not muslims says satan is trap in this so called holy month??
1970-19791980–1989 
A smoke cloud rises from the 1983 bombed American barracks at Beirut International Airport, which killed 242.
 27 July 1980 – Antwerp, Belgium. Syrian Palestinian Said Al Nasr threw two hand grenades into a group of Jewish children waiting for a bus. 1 dead, 20 injured.
1990–1999
Osama bin Laden (1957–2011) was the founder of Al-Qaeda, the jihadist organization responsible for many high profile attacks, including the 1998 U.S. embassy bombings and the September 11 attacks.
The 1996 Khobar Towers bombing by Hezbollah Al-Hejaz killed 19 Americans, one Saudi, and wounded 372.
 26 February 1993 – World Trade Center bombing, in New York City. 6 killed. 13 March 1993 – 1993 Bombay bombings. Mumbai, India. 257 dead, 713 injured. 6 April 1994 – Afula Bus suicide bombing, Afula. 8 dead- 13 April 1994 – Hadera bus station suicide bombing, Hadera. 5 dead
- 16 April 1993 – Mehola Junction bombing, Mehola junction, West Bank. 1 dead
 28 July 1994 – Buenos Aires, Argentina. Vehicle suicide bombing attack against AMIA building, the local Jewish community representation. 85 dead, more than 300 injured.- 19 October 1994 – Dizengoff Street bus bombing, Tel Aviv. 22 dead
- 11 November 1994 – Netzarim Junction bicycle bombing, Netzarim. 3 dead
 24 December 1994 – Air France Flight 8969 hijacking in Algiers by 3 members of Armed Islamic Group of Algeria and another terrorist. 7 killed including 4 hijackers.- 22 January 1995 – Beit Lid massacre, Beit Lid Junction. 21 dead
- 9 April 1995 – Kfar Darom bus attack, Vicinity of Kfar Darom, Gaza Strip. 8 dead
- 24 July 1995 – Ramat Gan bus 20 bombing, Ramat Gan. 6 dead
- 21 August 1995 – Ramat Eshkol bus bombing, Jerusalem. 4 dead
- 25 February and 3 March 1996 – Jaffa Road bus bombings, Jerusalem. 45 dead, 55 injured
- March 4, 1996 – Dizengoff Center suicide bombing, Tel Aviv. 13 dead
 25 June 1996 – Khobar Towers bombing, 20 killed, 372 wounded.- 21 March 1997 – Café Apropo bombing, Tel Aviv. 3 dead
- 30 July 1997 – 1997 Mahane Yehuda Market Bombings, Jerusalem. 16 dead
- 4 September 1997 – Ben Yehuda Street Bombing, Jerusalem. 5 dead
 17 November 1997 – Luxor attack, 6 armed Islamic terrorists attack tourists at Egypts famous Luxor Ruins. 62 killed, 26 injured.- 14 February 1998 – Bombing in Coimbatore, Tamil Nadu, India. 13 bombs explode within a 12 km radius. 46 killed and over 200 injured.
  7 August 1998 – 1998 United States embassy bombings in Tanzania and Kenya. 224 dead. 4000+ injured. 4–16 September 1999 – The Russian apartment bombings were a series of explosions that hit four apartment blocks in the Russian cities of Buynaksk, Moscow, and Volgodonsk. The explosions occurred in Buynaksk on 4 September, Moscow on 9 and 13 September, and Volgodonsk on 16 September. 293 dead, 1000+ injured. Several other bombs were defused in Moscow at the time.[3]
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tahilalatmanis posted on 15-7-2013 12:14 PM
and why are you still in muslim country? Aren't you aware that natural disasters happening in Chri ...
why i m here? i m blessed and thats why this country is blessed..
iran ,pakistan , banda ached and few islamic country received wrath from GOD....earth quake...tsunami
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tahilalatmanis posted on 15-7-2013 12:10 PM
these scholars studies your bible and compare with the original one.... have u read the original v ... these scholars studies your bible and compare with the original one.... have u read the original version? at least what we did is to make you aware... it is up to you to believe it or not... the starts of all these debate when you ppl questioned about Islam... and now you said this just to cover up your mistakes.... so sad.....
we do not believed in muslims 100% that comes from muslims mouth...firstly, u muslims too killed each other by burning mosques and with so many sects...dont you think it better to clear that mess first before judging on other peoples faith??
I have a Christian friend too.. we never debate but when she asked I answer honestly... She also respect my answer and my believes.... She never say we are bad ppl.... so it goes back to you... She even said, last time her church believe that Jesus is God, but now they change as Son of God.... why the change?
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Truth.8 posted on 15-7-2013 01:15 PM
why i m here? i m blessed and thats why this country is blessed..
iran ,pakistan , banda ached ...
India is not a muslim country..... United States also not a muslim country and yet there are natural disasters often....
You are in muslim country and so u are fortunate to be around Muslim ppl and still be safe.... |
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Truth.8 posted on 15-7-2013 01:18 PM
we do not believed in muslims 100% that comes from muslims mouth...firstly, u muslims too killed ...
sounds like you are sore loser... the truth is out in front of you and u still prefer to deny it... tsk...tsk...tsk... I'll leave you alone with your believes.... and by the way, the muslim country that you are taking refuge gave you so much security that you are able to live there peacefully... be grateful.....
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Truth.8 posted on 15-7-2013 11:53 AM
can this words or negative be written to provoke???
if your allah is all peace loving to souls... ...
U shud ask yourself lor...
Logically, Christians had always accused Jews
of responsibility for the crucifixion of a Jesus
whom they worshiped as God.
Clearly it was jz a warning
to be more careful with those weird/myterious alliances.
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