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Sabbath: Question to Truth.8

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Post time 5-10-2006 12:59 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by i212 at 5-10-2006 10:30 AM
Dey TRUTH.8....

I WANT THE EXPLANATION.

FIRST YOU SAY SABBATH IS SEVENTH-DAY.

NOW YOU SAY SABBATH HAVE ANNUALLY.

WHICH ONE IS TRUE?

SABBATH MEANS THE SEVENTH-DAY OR
SABBATH MEANS T ...


weekly sabbath is seventh day
annual sabbath :

The seven annual Holy Days are annual Sabbaths. They are holy convocations, or commanded assemblies, of God's people. These days are holy because they are sanctified (set apart) by God. He commands His people to assemble for worship and to learn about Him and His plan. His command goes further than worship only; it includes fellowshipping and rejoicing together (Leviticus 23:1-4; Deuteronomy 14:23-26; Nehemiah 8:1-12).

The New Testament record shows the continuity of observance of these days by Jesus Christ and the Church. Jesus observed these festivals, and we as His followers are told to walk as He walked (John 7:8-14; 1 John 2:6). The New Testament Church began on an annual festival?he Day of Pentecost (Acts 2:1-4). The apostles and disciples of the early Church continued to observe these festivals long after Jesus' death and resurrection (Acts 18:21; 20:16; 27:9; 1 Corinthians 5:8). Paul upholds their observance and presents them as continuing "shadows" or outlines of the great events in God's plan of salvation that are yet to be fulfilled (Colossians 2:16-17). He also instructed the congregation in Corinth, "Let us keep the feast" (1 Corinthians 5:8).

Through the observance of these feasts, God's people focus on and are reminded throughout the year of the work of Jesus the Messiah. It is through preaching the gospel of the Kingdom of God and the divine calling to a new way of life (John 6:44) that we see the building up of the Church as the family of God. Through Christ as our focal point, we begin to understand the special meaning behind the annual feasts.

During the course of the seven annual festivals are seven Holy Days, which are annual Sabbaths. These Holy Days are the first and last days of Unleavened Bread, the Feast of Pentecost, the Feast of Trumpets, the Day of Atonement, the first day of the Feast of Tabernacles and the Last Great Day. Although the Passover is a festival, it is not an annual Sabbath.

The plan of salvation as revealed in the Holy Scriptures is pictured in the meaning of these seven annual festivals.

The Passover teaches us that Jesus Christ was sinless and, as the true Lamb of God, gave His life so that the sins of humanity could be forgiven and the death penalty removed (1 Corinthians 5:7; 1 Peter 1:18-20; Romans 3:25). Passover, although not observed as a Holy Day, is the first festival of the year.

The Feast of Unleavened Bread teaches us that we have been called to reject lawlessness and repent of sin. We are to live by every word of God and according to the teachings of Jesus Christ (1 Corinthians 5:8; Matthew 4:4). During this festival, leaven symbolizes sin and, as such, is removed from our homes for the seven days of the festival (1 Corinthians 5:7-8; Exodus 12:19). By eating unleavened bread we picture living a life of sincerity and truth, free from sin.

The Feast of Pentecost, or firstfruits, teaches us that Jesus Christ came to build His Church. This festival pictures the coming of the Holy Spirit and the establishment of the Church. The firstfruits are those who will be given salvation at the return of Christ. They have been empowered with the Holy Spirit, which creates in each one a new heart and nature to live by the commandments of God (Exodus 23:16; Acts 2:1-4, 37-39; 5:32; James 1:18).

The Feast of Trumpets teaches us that Jesus Christ will visibly return to the earth at the end of this age. At that time He will resurrect the saints who are no longer living and instantly change those saints who are still alive to immortal spirit beings (Matthew 24:31; 1 Corinthians 15:52-53; 1 Thessalonians 4:13-17). This festival commemorates the blowing of the trumpets that will precede His return. Seven angels with seven trumpets are described in Revelation 8-10. Christ will return with the blowing of the seventh trumpet (Revelation 11:15).

The Day of Atonement teaches us that Jesus Christ gave His life to atone for the sins of all mankind. It also points to the time when Satan will be bound for 1,000 years (Leviticus 16:29-30, 20-22; Revelation 20:1-3). This Holy Day pictures our High Priest, Jesus Christ, making atonement for our sins, which allows us to be reconciled to God and enter into the "holiest of all" (Hebrews 9:8-14; 10:19-20). By fasting on this day, we draw closer to God and picture the reconciliation of mankind to God. Christ is essential in this process as our High Priest (Hebrews 4:14-15; 5:4-5, 10) and as our eternal sacrifice for sin (Hebrews 9:26-28).

The Feast of Tabernacles teaches us that when Jesus Christ returns, a new society will be established with Christ as King of Kings and Lord of Lords. Christ, assisted by the resurrected saints, will set up His government on the earth for 1,000 years (Revelation 19:11-16; 20:4; Leviticus 23:39-43; Matthew 17:1-4; Hebrews 11:8-9). Rule under His laws will spread from Jerusalem throughout the world to usher in an unprecedented period of peace and prosperity (Isaiah 2:2-4; Daniel 2:35, 44; 7:13-14).

The Last Great Day, or eighth day, teaches us that Jesus Christ will complete His harvest of humans by raising from the dead and extending salvation to all human beings who have died in the past and have never been given a full opportunity for salvation (Ezekiel 37:1-14; Romans 11:25-27; Luke 11:31-32; Revelation 20:11-13).

The annual cycle of the celebration of the festivals and Holy Days reminds Christ's disciples that He is working out His plan of extending salvation from sin and death and offering the gift of eternal life in the family of God to all humanity?ast, present and future.
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Post time 5-10-2006 01:55 PM | Show all posts
Is it important to keep the true Sabbath?

Yes it is. In God's final warning messages to the world we find a call to worship the Creator. "And I saw another angel fly in the midst of heaven... Saying with a loud voice Fear God, and give glory to him; for the hour of his judgment is come: and worship him that made heaven, and earth, and the sea, and the fountains of waters." Revelation 14:6-7

The call to worship in Revelation 14:7 brings us back to the Sabbath Commandment which God set aside specifically for holy purposes: "Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy. Six days shalt thou labour, and do all thy work: But the seventh day is the sabbath of the LORD thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates: For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the LORD blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it." Exodus 20:8-11

Throughout the scriptures we can see an emphasis on the recognition of the Creator. "Thou art worthy, O Lord, to receive glory and honour and power: for thou hast created all things, and for thy pleasure they are and were created." Revelation 4:11
"For the LORD is great, and greatly to be praised: He is to be feared above all gods. For all the gods of the nations are idols: but the LORD made the heavens." Psalms 96:4-5

"I will lift up mine eyes unto the hills, from whence cometh my help. My help cometh from the LORD, which made heaven and earth." Psalms 121:2

By keeping the Sabbath holy, as He commanded us, we show our love for Him and give recognition of His authority in our life. "Whosoever believeth that Jesus is the Christ is born of God: and every one that loveth him that begat loveth him also that is begotten of him. By this we know that we love the children of God, when we love God, and keep his commandments. For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments: and his commandments are not grievous." 1 John 5:1
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 Author| Post time 5-10-2006 02:48 PM | Show all posts
That's mean.

SABBATH MEANS HOLY DAY  lah kan...

So, its not matter which day you observe Sabbath.

No matter what the day, its still the HOLY DAY. So, its up to you which day as long as ITS WRITTEN in OUR SCRIPTURE AND IT COMMANDED BY OUR GOD.

Judaim observe saturday as Their WEEKLY SABBATH DAY.

Muslim observe FRIDAY as Holy Day. We not call it SABBATH DAY. BUT IF YOU SAY SABBATH DAY IS HOLY DAY, Then maybe FRIDAY are SABBATH DAY.

ITS NOT MATTER WHAT DAY AS LONG AS THE MEANING OF THAT DAY IS, DAY OF REMEMBERING AND PRAYING FOR GOD. Right?


REMEMBERING GOD ARE CONTINUOSLY. NOT JUST IN CERTAIN DAY. RIGHT?
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Post time 5-10-2006 02:57 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by i212 at 5-10-2006 02:48 PM
That's mean.

SABBATH MEANS HOLY DAY  lah kan...

So, its not matter which day you observe Sabbath.

No matter what the day, its still the HOLY DAY. So, its up to you which day as long as ITS ...


u understand what i wrote? one is weekly Sabbath and another is annual holy sabbath

just like muslims have annual festival like hari raya, hari raya haji,  awal muharam  all this is islam annual festival .

we have 7 festival of annual sabbath holy day knows as ; feast trumpet  and few others. those feast got great meaning according to bible. I hve already posted so u can read it
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 Author| Post time 5-10-2006 03:15 PM | Show all posts
u understand what i wrote? one is weekly Sabbath and another is annual holy sabbath

just like muslims have annual festival like hari raya, hari raya haji,  awal muharam  all this is islam annual festival .

we have 7 festival of annual sabbath holy day knows as ; feast trumpet  and few others. those feast got great meaning according to bible. I hve already posted so u can read it
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SO, why you barking around about ISLAM have FRIDAY as Weekly Holy Day?.
What's you point?

Jews are given their weekly Holy Day and Annual Holy Day.
Christians have their own weekly Holy Day adn Annual Holy Day
Muslim given own weekly Holy Day and Annual Holy Day.

so, what the issue here.

you say people not observe sabbath will be punish.
i think all people observe it, only in different day.

one more thing. You say you observe sabbath, but do you fasting?
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Post time 13-10-2006 01:58 AM | Show all posts
I dont think Truth8 can answer about Sabbath
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 Author| Post time 14-10-2006 09:34 AM | Show all posts
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Post time 14-10-2006 11:24 AM | Show all posts
Originally posted by wira_melayu at 13-10-2006 01:58 AM
I dont think Truth8 can answer about Sabbath



are u saying muslims very knowledgeable then Jews who believed Sabbath is Saturday?

it was muhammad came abolished Sabbath to friday.

friday is not part of God true callings
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Post time 14-10-2006 11:26 AM | Show all posts
SO, why you barking around about ISLAM have FRIDAY as Weekly Holy Day?.
What's you point?

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am i barking or u barking by creating this topic?

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you say people not observe sabbath will be punish.
i think all people observe it, only in different day.

one more thing. You say you observe sabbath, but do you fasting?

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Sabbath is Saturday. it was practised long time ago even before Abaraham.

not friday or sunday but Saturday.
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Post time 14-10-2006 11:58 AM | Show all posts
Originally posted by Truth.8 at 14-10-2006 11:26 AM
SO, why you barking around about ISLAM have FRIDAY as Weekly Holy Day?.
What's you point?

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am i barking or u barking by creating this topic?

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Any proof that sabbath is saturday ?


kharrrrr   kharrr   kharrrr
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Post time 14-10-2006 12:00 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by WLIO at 14-10-2006 11:58 AM


Any proof that sabbath is saturday ?


kharrrrr   kharrr   kharrrr


already explained. go from begining and read one by one.

if not ask the Jews because they people of the Book .
dont      ask muslims because they rotten blind on this issue
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Post time 14-10-2006 12:02 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by Truth.8 at 14-10-2006 12:00 PM


already explained. go from begining and read one by one.

if not ask the Jews because they people of the Book .
dont      ask muslims because they rotten blind on this issue




where the proof


and where the verse


or else all is bullshit


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Post time 14-10-2006 12:02 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by WLIO at 14-10-2006 12:02 PM




where the proof


and where the verse


or else all is bullshit


kharrrrrr    kharrrr    kharrrrr


unless ur brain filled with najis
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Post time 14-10-2006 12:04 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by Truth.8 at 14-10-2006 12:02 PM


unless ur brain filled with najis




the najis is your god"jesus"

kahrrrrr   kharrrr   kharrrr

tak ada proof pungggggggggggg


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 Author| Post time 14-10-2006 12:39 PM | Show all posts
by T8
am i barking or u barking by creating this topic?


because u barking that you left islam because of this Sabbath Thing... very wierd...

You insult Muhammad by saying he adjust the day.. hehehehe ... wierd..
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Post time 14-10-2006 12:47 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by i212 at 14-10-2006 12:39 PM


because u barking that you left islam because of this Sabbath Thing... very wierd...

You insult Muhammad by saying he adjust the day.. hehehehe ... wierd..


any faith that break 10 commandment of God ,  I shall not partake of their faith.

some keep 9 and some  even changes ....so such faith is not my faith
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Post time 14-10-2006 12:51 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by Truth.8 at 14-10-2006 12:47 PM


any faith that break 10 commandment of God ,  I shall not partake of their faith.

some keep 9 and some  even changes ....so such faith is not my faith



what is your 10 commandment ?


aku tak pikir kau ikut semua



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 Author| Post time 16-10-2006 11:20 AM | Show all posts
by Truth.8
any faith that break 10 commandment of God ,  I shall not partake of their faith.

some keep 9 and some  even changes ....so such faith is not my faith


Did inside the 10 commandment say observe sabbath that is on saturday.?
Its just stated Observe Sabbath.
Thats mean observe the Holy Day.
Clear?...

We dont break any commandment man.

We have 11 Commandments and we call it Pillars.

6 for Iman Pillars.
and 5 for Islam Pillars.

we even have more than you man.

[ Last edited by  i212 at 16-10-2006 11:32 AM ]
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Post time 17-10-2006 02:34 AM | Show all posts
i don't think Truth8 dare to take up the challange,Truth8 himself breaks the ten commandments.

The first commandments stated you shall have no other gods before me but Truth8 worshipped 2 gods.:
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 Author| Post time 17-10-2006 10:55 AM | Show all posts
hehehehe................ thats the most obvious thing...
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