[MERGED]-Debmey: SHOW PROOF THAT PROPHET MOHAMMAD IS A PAEDOPHILE?

"It is impossible for anyone who studies the life and character of the great Prophet of Arabia, who knows how he taught and how he lived, to feel anything but reverence for that mighty Prophet, one of the great messengers of the Supreme. And although in what I put to you I shall say many things which may be familiar to many, yet I myself feel whenever I re-read them, a new way of admiration, a new sense of reverence for that mighty Arabian teacher."

Annie Besant, The Life and Teachings of Muhammad (Madras, 1932), p. 4.

"I have studied him - the wonderful man and in my opinion far from being an anti-Christ, he must be called the Saviour of Humanity. I believe that if a man like him were to assume the dictatorship of the modern world, he would succeed in solving its problems in a way that would bring it the much needed peace and happiness: I have prophesied about the faith of Muhammad that it would be acceptable to the Europe of tomorrow as it is beginning to be acceptable to the Europe of today."


George Bernard Shaw, The Genuine Islam, vol. 1, no. 81936.




http://www.iol.ie/~afifi/BICNews/Sabeel/sabeel6.htm

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Baiduri Othman

Originally posted by FaithHealer3 at 2005-3-18 08:58 AM:



Leave your argumentum ad hominem tactics, it don't work anymore with me. You want me to respond to your sarcastic comment in vulgar ways, right? well, if you love vugar  ...

My response:-

Are you threatening me? Don't ever try b'coz I'll make sure you'd be vanished from this forum forever.

Debmey

Don't run away sis Baiduri!

How do you justify Mo's paedophile marriage with Aisha?

FaithHealer3

Originally posted by Baiduri Othman at 2005-3-18 08:09 PM:
Are you threatening me? Don't ever try b'coz I'll make sure you'd be vanished from this forum forever.

In other words, you don't have any proof for your claim.. "the marriage was arranged by Aisya's parents"

:lol

Fuzzman

FaithHeckler wrote: You can't change the meaning of pedophile as you like..
pedophile :An adult who is sexually attracted to a child or children.
www.dictionary.com is a free online dictionary, you to check the meaning of pedophile there.Pedophilic Marriage or no marriage, if you have sex with child of 9 years old, you are a pedophile.

I checked the online dictionary and this was what I found. They carried two entries and here they are!
Main Entry: pe穌o穚hile

Pronunciation: 'pEd-&-"fIl, 'ped-
Variant: or chiefly British pae穌o穚hile /'pEd-/
Function: noun
: one affected with pedophilia called also pedophiliac
Source: Merriam-Webster's Medical Dictionary,

FaithHealer3

[quote]Originally posted by Fuzzman at 2005-3-19 02:00 AM:
paedophile
n : an adult who is sexually attracted to children [syn: pedophile]
Source: WordNet

aenemy7

:lo

U all still stucked....why don't u proof about the rejections by Aisya parents about her marriage or if any rejections from the society at that time including the enemies! why the society didn't see it as a phaedophile act???bcoz it's normal at that time right???

All of these was not a phaedophile case at all, it's a "young marriages" cases which is a norm in the old days, today many women and even man have a lot of things to do and to think of like their career,academic achievement...etc not like the old days where marriage was the ultimate goal for a woman and man(to have a baby) same like academic achievements and a good career for today standards.

Don't u think it was easy to tackle all your accusations in just a simple logic...if the marriage was opposed by the parents of Aisya or the society the marriage will not go on anyway, if sex happen without the marriage title with a minor than it's a phaedophile laaaa....easy what!!!

:lol :lol :lol


Allah Knows Best,Peace Yall...

Baiduri Othman

Originally posted by Fuzzman at 2005-3-19 02:00 AM:

I checked the online dictionary and this was what I found. They carried two entries and here they are!
Main Entry: pe穌o穚hile

Pronunciation: 'pEd-&am ...

My response:-

Thank you very Fuzzman & a big hi to you. Well, if they dare - I'll report them immediately to the admin & many supermods like Acehand, Wondering & even moderators will entertain me. He he he.

Have a nice weekend to you Fuzzman. Take good care.

Warmest regards.

FaithHealer3

Originally posted by aenemy7 at 2005-3-19 04:07 AM:
:lo

U all still stucked....why don't u proof about the rejections by Aisya parents about her marriage or if any rejections from the society at that time including the enemies! why the society ...

Are you forgeting that the Meccan society disapproved the behavior of p.Muhammad and they chased him out of their town, soon after Aisha was engaged/ betrothed to him.

Originally posted by aenemy7 at 2005-3-19 04:07 AM:
All of these was not a phaedophile case at all, it's a "young marriages" cases which is a norm in the old days,

If it was a norm, then you should have no problem giving examples of such young marriages like that of Aisha/Muhammad's marriage.. where an old adult of 50plus marriy a young girl of 9years old. Come on give examples..

Originally posted by aenemy7 at 2005-3-19 04:07 AM:
anyway, if sex happen without the marriage title with a minor than it's a phaedophile laaaa....easy what!!!

Pedophilic Marriage is not a license for you to commit pedophilia.. and not be known as a pedophile.


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DivinePonytail

Originally posted by Baiduri Othman at 19-3-2005 07:40 AM:


My response:-

Thank you very Fuzzman & a big hi to you. Well, if they dare - I'll report them immediately to the admin & many supermods like Acehand, Wondering & even moderators  ...

Now thats not the way to debate. We have FUZZMAN invited us to this thread to give proof, and we did. What? you want to report us to your socalled big brother because we provide proof that you cant counter?

Baiduri Othman

Originally posted by DivinePonytail at 2005-3-19 08:19 AM:


Now thats not the way to debate. We have FUZZMAN invited us to this thread to give proof, and we did. What? you want to report us to your socalled big brother because we provide proof that you  ...

My response:-

Read properly pls! Don't just simply jump on conclusion. Check Faithhealer's post pls.

Baiduri Othman

Leave your argumentum ad hominem tactics, it don't work anymore with me. You want me to respond to your sarcastic comment in vulgar ways, right? well, if you love vugar words, just pm me and we will talk dirty

This is what Faithhealer has posted. If he dares, I'll lodge report to the admin.

FaithHealer3

Originally posted by Baiduri Othman at 2005-3-19 08:22 AM:
Leave your argumentum ad hominem tactics, it don't work anymore with me. You want me to respond to your sarcastic comment in vulgar ways, right? well, if you love vugar words, just pm me and we will talk dirty

This is what Faithhealer has posted. If he dares, I'll lodge report to the admin.

Are you forgeting that you wrote this first.. "BTW Faithhealer, are you still an atheist? Anyway, to me you're a HYPOCRITE & A BIG LIAR!!!"

When did i ever said that i am an athiest.. ?

and do you know the meaning of "argumentum ad hominem".. i think not.. cos you are using it too often.

FaithHealer3

Baiduri, after you finish whining, could you find the evidence to back up your claim.. "the marriage was arranged by Aisya's parents"

FaithHealer3

:gantuk:

Baiduri Othman

Originally posted by FaithHealer3 at 2005-3-19 08:34 AM:
Are you forgeting that you wrote this first.. "BTW Faithhealer, are you still an atheist? Anyway, to me you're a HYPOCRITE & A BIG LIAR!!!"

When di ...

My response:-

You're a HYPOCRITE & A BIG LIAR! Does that sound so vulgar to you? Are you that SOTONG (well, you use the word a lot here) that you got really so UPSET? If you're a Christian, then admit so. There's no need to pretend & making statement that you're an atheist just to show how NEUTRAL/RATIONAL you're. Am I not right?

Don't you fit to be labelled as a HYPOCRITE & A BIG LIAR?

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Baiduri Othman

Originally posted by FaithHealer3 at 2005-3-19 08:38 AM:

Baiduri, after you finish whining, could you find the evidence to back up your claim.. "the marriage was arranged by Aisya's parents"

My response:-

Of course the marriage was arranged by Siti Aisya's parents. Who do you expect to arrange the marriage even the Prophet asked for the marriage? Her parents didn't oppose the marriage, did they? So what's so wrong with the marriage? Did anyone get killed in marriage? Just use your common sense.

Debmey

its still a paedophile marriage no matter what.

FaithHealer3

Originally posted by Baiduri Othman at 2005-3-19 08:47 AM:
You're a HYPOCRITE & A BIG LIAR! Does that sound so vulgar to you? Are you that SOTONG (well, you use the word a lot here) that you got really so UPSET?

Not vulgar but i think it was sarcastic and insulting.. but don't you know that it might get vulgar responce from me.. you already kena from me once..

Originally posted by Baiduri Othman at 2005-3-19 08:47 AM:
If you're a Christian, then admit so. There's no need to pretend & making statement that you're an atheist just to show how NEUTRAL/RATIONAL you're. Am I not right?

Haiya..minah.. i have told you before.. i am a freethinker.. at most an agnostic..

Basically, the good followers of Christ are good to other people. I think Christ was a good teacher, far superior human being compared to p.Muhammad. To me Jesus is no God.. but a good human being.
A good human who never sleep with a minor.

FaithHealer3

Originally posted by Baiduri Othman at 2005-3-19 08:53 AM:
Of course the marriage was arranged by Siti Aisya's parents. Who do you expect to arrange the marriage even the Prophet asked for the marriage? Her parents didn't oppose the ma ...

The marriage of "Mother of Believer" was not arranged by her Mother or Father. They were just following the wish of their leader. Their leader, p.Muhammad wished for Aishaa. Abu Bakar tried not give her to him, saying that they are brothers, but p.Muhammad convinced Abu Bakar to give his daughter to him anyway. Do you think Abu Bakar don't know that they are not blood-brothers?

And still.. p.Muhammad was a pedophile because he lusted after Aisha when she was 6 years old and had sex with her when she was 9years old.. as reported by hadiths recorders Imam Bukhari, Imam Muslim, Imam Abu-Dawud.