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[MERGED]-Debmey: SHOW PROOF THAT PROPHET MOHAMMAD IS A PAEDOPHILE?
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Its not a crime then cos Mo was the king.
But its still immoral behavior. Of course, I understand, you'll say that no body is perfect, including Mo.
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FaithHeckler wrote:
1. The uncivilised Ansari womens were there to decorate the 9 year old girl so that she would look "nice" for the prevert opps prophet.
Uncivilised Ansari women you say? That goes to show how much you know about what you write. Are you sure that Ansari women are "uncivilised" Don't make a fool of yourself here my fren. We already have busloads of that from your camp. So one more time. Tell Fuzzman about Ansari women and what they represent in civil society in that era of Arabic history.
FaithHeckler wrote: 2. Who said it was illegal? In the lawless world the Pedophilic Marriage was not illegal at all.. but its still an act by a pedophile.
Hahahaha there's no such thing as paedophilic marriage! I admire your creative flair of lying where you can just about cook up any sort of concoction to suit whatever situation you trudge into. So in simpler words Fuzzman readily takes that you agree that the marriage contract between the prophet and Aishah was legal in that era?
FaithHeckler wrote: In fact in ancient time Incesterous Marriage was not illegal either.. does that mean incest is okay?Pedophilia was not a problem during p.Muhammad's time.. they lived in times of ignorance.
In "ancient times" incest and paedophilia was the norm from as early as the times of Abraham, Moses and Jesus. Abraham married his half-sister Sarai. Moses instructed the Jews to commit paedophilia in Numbers 31:17-18. However there is no proof of Prophet Mohammad going the same path. In fact Montgomery Watt, the orientalist, has praised Prophet Mohammad for making postive changes for the betterment of the Ummah and had secured the rights of women. And paedophilia was not on that list. Honestly speaking, the "time of ignorance" was beheld only between the OT and Jesus periods.
FaithHeckler wrote:Aisha's mummy was not a wise-lady either
On what authority are you making this "sweeping statement"? Are you a revealed or qualified scholar, historian or academian to say that Aishah's mother was such? Show us the proof to support your accusation
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Originally posted by FuzzyBoy at 2005-3-15 01:50 AM:
Are you sure that Ansari women are "uncivilised"
Of they were uncivilized and stupid. No civilised and intelligent people would prepare a 9year old girl for the sexual pleasure of an old man who already have a mate.
Originally posted by FuzzyBoy at 2005-3-15 01:50 AM:
Hahahaha there's no such thing as paedophilic marriage!
Of course there was.. at least one confirmed pedophilic marriage.. between p.Mo and Aisha. as confirm in the hadiths
Originally posted by FuzzyBoy at 2005-3-15 01:50 AM:
In "ancient times" incest and paedophilia was the norm... However there is no proof of Prophet Mohammad going the same path.
Yes he did. He had a Pedophilic Marriage with his bes friend's daughter and an Incestuous Marriage with his cousin sister. Don't keep on acting so blur lah.
Originally posted by FuzzyBoy at 2005-3-15 01:50 AM:
Honestly speaking, the "time of ignorance" was beheld only between the OT and Jesus periods.
Time of ignorance still exist in Islamic countries. You still wanna play "blur like sotong" uhh?
Originally posted by FuzzyBoy at 2005-3-15 01:50 AM:
On what authority are you making this "sweeping statement"? Are you a revealed or qualified scholar, historian or academian to say that Aishah's mother was such? Show us the proof to support your accusation
One stupid action is all it takes to prove that Aisha's mummy was not a smart women. She gave her 9 year old daughter to p.Muhammad so that the 53year old man can fulfill his sexual lust for young girl..
Isn't that more than enough?
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Faithhealer, why're you so keen to manipulate the Prophet's marriage with a 9-yr-old Siti Aisya'? Can you reason out with me? Are you telling me that you want to bring this issue to the world court so that the Prophet can be executed? Is that what you really want to do? Don't tell me you're paid too to convince the Muslims here that Prophet Muhammad saw. is a paedophile.
I thought you're an atheist but it seems you love to find faults on Islam. Can't you distinguish the practice/customs in the ancient days? Why're you comparing anything in the past with the modern world? Whether Aisya's mother is smart or not smart, I'm very sure most mothers during her period also married their children to older men. So I guess all ancient people were stupid for practicing their customs incl. your ancestors & only people like you are DAMN SMART!
I didn't know you guys are DAMN STUPID for questioning old practices in the ancient days. How could you consider such practices as crimes? |
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It may not be a crime back then, but it certainly is imoral to say the least.
Had Mo been a spiritual man, he would not have had a paedophile marriage with Aisha. The worst thing is, muslims take Mo as an example and have sex with minors.
[ Last edited by Debmey on 17-3-2005 at 11:02 PM ] |
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Originally posted by Debmey at 2005-3-17 11:00 PM:
It may not be a crime back then, but it certainly is imoral to say the least.
Had Mo been a spiritual man, he would not have had a paedophile marriage with Aisha. The worst thing is, muslims take ...
My response:-
Of course it was never never ever a crime & not even immoral in those days b'coz child marriage was normal then. In fact, according to your Bible, a prophet was mentioned to have more than 700 wives. Do you call that immoral & a crime??????? |
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Originally posted by Baiduri Othman at 2005-3-17 08:40 PM:
Faithhealer, why're you so keen to manipulate the Prophet's marriage with a 9-yr-old Siti Aisya'? Can you reason out with me? Are you telling me that you want to bring this issue to the world court ...
You.. Muhammadans should refrain from calling others stupid because it only shows your lack of intelligent. Muhammad is very much relevant today as he was 1400years ago.. one simple reason is Q33:21
Muhammadans practically worship Muhammad to such an extend that what ever he did is the right thing.. Even if Muhammad had commited a despicable act like having sex with a 9 year old girl.. and that does not even bother you people.. you people try to find excuses for the shameful act.
Do you think marrying and having sex with a 9 year old girl is a" Beautiful Pattern of Conduct" ?
Q33:21Pickthall:Verily in the messenger of Allah ye have a good example for him who looketh unto Allah and the Last Day, and remembereth Allah much.
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For your kind information, we're Muslims & not the followers of Muhammadans! Our religion is Islam & we worship ONE & ONLY GOD, ALLAH SWT. Pls take note of that. We're totally different from the Christians, the followers of Christ or Buddhists, the followers of Buddha, Hindus, the followers of Hindu whatsoever, Judaism due to the their race. We're MUSLIMS!!!!! Do you read me Faithhealer??? |
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Originally posted by FaithHealer3 at 2005-3-18 12:48 AM:
You.. Muhammadans should refrain from calling others stupid because it only shows your lack of intelligent. Muhammad is very much relevant today as he was 1400years ago.. one sim ...
My response:-
You're really stupid Faithhealer! Are you really sure you're that INTELLIGENT b'coz your posts show you're really someone VERY STUPID & IN TOTAL DENIAL. How could you be questioning the old customs & accused such marriage as IMMORAL & A CRIMINAL? Whereas such marriages were normal in those days.
The prophet never mentioned that the Muslims shd married to a minor & it's a sunnah anyway. |
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Originally posted by Baiduri Othman at 2005-3-18 12:54 AM:
For your kind information, we're Muslims & not the followers of Muhammadans! Our religion is Islam & we worship ONE & ONLY GOD, ALLAH SWT. Pls take note of that. We're totally different ...
You are a Muhammadan. period.
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Originally posted by Baiduri Othman at 2005-3-18 01:03 AM:
You're really stupid Faithhealer! Are you really sure you're that INTELLIGENT b'coz your posts show you're really someone VERY STUPID & IN TOTAL DENIAL. How could you be qu ...
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If u cannot proof Prophet Muhammad saw(pbuh) as a phaedophile don't waste your time here....we are Muslim's and not Mohamedist, we are not like Christ-ian which has the name of prophet in our religion name! even from the name of your religion u can see how distorted they are because the name sounds like the religion worship a human being as god and etc! there's a "christ" before the "ian".....simple logic huh???
:lol :lol :lol
Allah Knows Best,Peace Yall..... |
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Having sex with a 9 year old makes Mo a paedophile. Proven.
More like muslims are in denial.
cheers |
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Show that it was "sex before marriage with a minor" which fits the phaedophile actual meaning!!! off course laaa u cannot right coz it's a marriage....no matter how u try u can't proof it even if u have time machine like in the movies!!!
gotcha.....
:lol :lol :lol
Allah Knows Best,Peace Yall..... |
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Originally posted by aenemy7 at 2005-3-18 03:06 AM:
If u cannot proof Prophet Muhammad saw(pbuh) as a phaedophile don't waste your time here....we are Muslim's and not Mohamedist, we are not like Christ-ian which has the name of prophet in our re ...
Whats wrong with you? The proof of pedophilia was already given by Debmey in the 2nd post in this thread. Amen
... and its Muhammadan not Mohamedist.
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Originally posted by aenemy7 at 2005-3-18 03:19 AM:
Show that it was "sex before marriage with a minor" which fits the phaedophile actual meaning!!! off course laaa u cannot right coz it's a marriage....no matter how u try u can' ...
You can't change the meaning of pedophile as you like..
pedophile :An adult who is sexually attracted to a child or children.
www.dictionary.com is a free online dictionary, you to check the meaning of pedophile there.
Pedophilic Marriage or no marriage, if you have sex with child of 9 years old, you are a pedophile.
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Originally posted by Debmey at 2005-3-18 03:07 AM:
Having sex with a 9 year old makes Mo a paedophile. Proven.
More like muslims are in denial.
cheers
My response:-
Another stupid statement that really bores me!!! The prophet cannot be executed as a paedophile b'coz child marriage was common & normal in the old days. Even there's a race still practicising this custom in the modern days esp. in remote areas, you still can't charge them for committing a crime & labelled them as paedophiles.
Unless you live in countries that have laws that rules out that marriage to minors is a CRIMINAL. But anyway, having sexual intercourse out of wedlocks is very common nowadays incl. with minors. |
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Originally posted by FaithHealer3 at 2005-3-18 05:55 AM:
You can't change the meaning of pedophile as you like..
pedophile :An adult who is sexually attracted to a child or children.
[url]www.dictionary.com[/ ...
My response:-
The point is - the prophet never never ever sexually attracted to minors. If he ever did, he can always have minors to be his wives. We all know the marriage was arranged by Aisya's parents.
BTW Faithhealer, are you still an atheist? Anyway, to me you're a HYPOCRITE & A BIG LIAR!!!
And another thing, the Muslims & Prophet Muhammad saw. only worship Allah swt. & we're not Muhammadans. Muhammadans is only a propaganda so that we're very similar to the Christians, Judaism, Hindus, Buddhists etc. Pls take note of that. If you can't see the difference, you're really stupid or otherwise in TOTAL DENIAL b'coz you're here to preach! |
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If Mo was not a paedophile, why was he attracted to a 6 year old baby Aisha?
Why did he have sex with Aisha when she was only 9 years old? |
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Originally posted by Baiduri Othman at 2005-3-18 07:16 AM:
We all know the marriage was arranged by Aisya's parents..
Leave your argumentum ad hominem tactics, it don't work anymore with me. You want me to respond to your sarcastic comment in vulgar ways, right? well, if you love vugar words, just pm me and we will talk dirty
Now.. you have made another statement which i know is a lie.. you said "the marriage was arranged by Aisya's parents" and you didn't provide any reference.. so provide some reference preferably from hadith sahihs
i say, it was p.Muhammad who wanted Aisha first. He asked Abu Bakar to give her to him. Aisha father at first refuse to give her to him.
I point to the hadaith sahih of Bukhari..
Bukhari:V7B62N18:Narrated 'Ursa: The Prophet asked Abu Bakr for 'Aisha's hand in marriage. Abu Bakr said "But I am your brother." The Prophet said, "You are my brother in Allah's religion and His Book, but she (Aisha) is lawful for me to marry."
What reference are you goiung to give? or are you going act like sotong again.. like the time you claim "child marriage was common in ancient arabia".. when i ask for evidence.. you wiggle and waggle but you gave none.
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Post time 14-3-2005 09:37 PM
