Truth.8 posted on 25-10-2013 12:12 PM
The Roles of Men and Women in HeavenMen and women are co-equals and co-heirs in Christ today and i ...
Mmm... none of your posts or links answered the question, or can be used to prove your "sex is NOT good in spritual body" claim. The way I understand your claim is: sex is allowable in spiritual body but it has negative effect (hence NOT good). I don't see any of the posted text/links talk about this, unfortunately.
Just because there is physical pleasure in heaven mentioned in other religion (to whatever extend that is) and you don't want to agree with it, I don't think you should simply draw a random claim that "sex is NOT good in spiritual body". I said random as in you don't have any evidence to support your claim.
Truth.8 posted on 26-10-2013 10:07 PM
where ? am i running or u just get urself nicely wallope from me for giving direct answer.
Ha ha , you seem to run left - right - top - bottom from the questions by us muslims , yet you claim you whalloped us? You are another deluded Christians like your buddy , the 'unreliable defender of the faithful' .... (drum roll) ... 'wkk5159'...
where the Bibel says x100 wives? not only u getting old fargot but u loosing mind
You are now saying that there will not be wine in the Christian heaven? Now you are making up things. If I know better , I think you are trying to lie plus the fact that you don't know your bible.
where in verses there is wine in heaven ?? verses please
Ha ha , you must be senile. I have posted the verse for about 4 times already. Its ok , I understand , you are trying your best to run away. Mat19:29 (NIV bible)
And everyone who has left houses or brothers or sisters or father or mother or wife or children or fields for my sake will receive a hundred times as much and will inherit eternal life.
Isn't 'a hundred times as much' = x100? The verse do state of wives. Does it not mean to receive x100 wives in the Christian heaven? If you don't understand english I can try to put it in Google Translate into tamil for you. Do you need such help?
Wine in heaven? I thought I provided the verse already? Why are you asking the same question over and over again? You have no answers ... yes. To help you again , mat26:29
I tell you, I will not drink from this fruit of the vine from now on until that day when I drink it new with you in my Father’s kingdom.”
Mark 14:23-25 Then He took the cup, and when He had given thanks He gave it to them, and they all drank from it. And He said to them, "This is My blood of the new covenant, which is shed for many. "Assuredly, I say to you, I will no longer drink of the fruit of the vine until that day when I drink it new in the kingdom of God."
He drank wine and had his disciples drink it also.
Matt 26:29 "But I say to you, I will not drink of this fruit of the vine from now on until that day when I drink it new with you in My Father's kingdom."Jesus promises to drink it again as a time of rejoicing when he comes back.
So there will be 'yam seng' in the Christian heaven. Well , biblical Jesus , your man God , did change water to wine - his first performed miracle per the bible. Therefore he encouraged 'yam seng'.
dont boo hoo me ..u twisted tounge like snake been noticed by many here
Ha ha , this shows your desperation. Can you just go back 1 verse to verse 29 to see the particular verse. You cannot backtrack in your reading?
until u can provide x 100 wives in Bible than i can agree lah ...where show me x100 wives..r u adding ur assumption?
And everyone who has left houses or brothers or sisters or father or mother or wife or children or fields for my sake will receive a hundred times as much and will inherit eternal life.
What now? Still want to argue on verse 29 versus 30? Ha ha . I have caught you not knowing your bible once again. However your buddy in 'wkk5159' applied mental gymnastics and claim its x100 grace. Dunno where he got that from ... oh yeah ... his wet dreams .... ha ha
Paul the liar? i hve no problem with Paul but problem with muhammad being prophet
Of course Paul is a liar. He gave 3 different versions of his vision ... meeting with biblical Jesus. Yet you revere him being an apostle of your man God. Ha ha , an apostle who had never met , walked and talked to biblical Jesus. Something is wrong here ....
I dont worshipped Jesus in image........we not talking about Jesus images here am i rite??? so if u interested to know, ask RC not me...because I do not worshipped God or Jesus in images....or circling , bowing direct /or indirectly to an object....
But the RC are an earlier Christian denomination than yours. Ha ha , now the RC is wrong because you cannot answer any questions. They might think you are wrong ... which you probably are. Ha ha , old refuted arguments. Circling and bowing does not mean worship. Why are you recycling already refuted arguments? No more arguments left in you?
we not discussing about denominatio here....stick to the topic...if u post jesus image...ask the rc not me...i am more concern on the topic here on heaven and hell
However you are avoiding answering the issue. You referred to mark12:25 and mat22:30 and argued that there is no physical pleasure in the Christian heaven. However the 2 said verses are addressing 'at resurrection' not heaven. I have already caught you lying. Not to mention your mis use of gal3:28. Why do you need to lie?
oh really? how come muslims goes rampage after seeing that pics ...why? mind explain to me because i was confused muslims world wide include here in malaysia they condem such image...why ? why such image was anger in islam world? i m waiting
Issit? Did I go on rampage? I am laughing at your low level mentality. Nobody knows how Prophet Muhammad(saw) looked like. A caricature with a bomb for turban can be arabs , jews , bengalis or the infamous 'wkk5159'. Who are you talking about? You don't seem to be able to separate fact and fiction. See me in any anger?
Yes...it has meaning...have u understood the meaning?
now u jumping to different topic? why want to divert...keep the topic...are u that old lossing ur mind
So what is the meaning in the description of biblical Jesus , your man God in rev1:14 and rev1:16? As far as I can see , he is a monster having eyes of fire and a double edged sword tongue. Ha ha .... , you will probably invoke the escape clause ... its a parable .... yes? You are the one asking for the description of biblical Jesus , your man God in the bible. I responded with the 2 verses. You cannot accept what the bible states. Where is me changing topics? Round and round goes 'truth.9' chasing his own backside.
where in the verses says x 100 wives?? what does it mean x 100?? wives is it?? than show me the verses lah..
See mat19:29
Our materials pleasure , sex and etc are only in physical body in this earth.. if that exist in heaven....than it consider like earth.
if ur teachings says got sex....hmmm it remind me about hindusim.....no wonder peoples says muhammad have hijacked hindusim and blend with Jew teachings...not sure how true is that but from your writings...it seems u like support sex in heaven...
I dunno , your bible states that
(1) you get x100 wives in the christian heaven as reward (don't you have conjugal relationship with your wife)
(2) drinking wine or 'yam seng' in the christian heaven
(3) treasures in the christian heaven
Sounds a lot like having physical pleasures in the Christian heaven. I have provided the support verses but you are just in blind denial without any scriptural support. It appears that you are blindly denying even your own bible. By your logic , Christianity is a hijack form of Hinduism. 'Sepiroth' must be grinning that indirectly you are admitting that Christianity is a Hinduism hijack.
Ha ha ... poor you. You seem to deny everything now ...
The question that you are running away from. What is wrong with sex in heaven? Your bible states there will be sex and physical pleasures.
BTW the video you provided is talking about the paths to rebirth and life on earth. Heaven is a different thing. Ha ha .... wait ... to you heaven = earth? Aiyoyo tambi ... this one also confused aaaah?
sam1528 posted on 27-10-2013 01:24 AM
Ha ha , you seem to run left - right - top - bottom from the questions by us muslims , yet you cla ...
Ha ha , you seem to run left - right - top - bottom from the questions by us muslims , yet you claim you whalloped us? You are another deluded Christians like your buddy , the 'unreliable defender of the faithful' .... (drum roll) ... 'wkk5159'...
yes you have divert the topic to rc and etc...u just another muslims sore losser...boooo
You are now saying that there will not be wine in the Christian heaven? Now you are making up things. If I know better , I think you are trying to lie plus the fact that you don't know your bible.
where ? which verses?
Ha ha , you must be senile. I have posted the verse for about 4 times already. Its ok , I understand , you are trying your best to run away. Mat19:29 (NIV bible)
what does he mat 19:29 wrote? mind telling us??
Isn't 'a hundred times as much' = x100? The verse do state of wives. Does it not mean to receive x100 wives in the Christian heaven? If you don't understand english I can try to put it in Google Translate into tamil for you. Do you need such help?
so, it did not mention about x100wives. so what is the issue here? trying fool us with your cunning way...sorry it wont .
Wine in heaven? I thought I provided the verse already? Why are you asking the same question over and over again? You have no answers ... yes. To help you again , mat26:29
Mark 14:23-25 Then He took the cup, and when He had given thanks He gave it to them, and they all drank from it. And He said to them, "This is My blood of the new covenant, which is shed for many. "Assuredly, I say to you, I will no longer drink of the fruit of the vine until that day when I drink it new in the kingdom of God."
what does it mean? have you a Bible scholar ? how could be so stupid. is a parabale...Jesus always spoke parable...
u making fool out urself shame shame shame
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[quote]So there will be 'yam seng' in the Christian heaven. Well , biblical Jesus , your man God , did change water to wine - his first performed miracle per the bible. Therefore he encouraged 'yam seng'.
yam seng? sorry...our heaven is not erotic or sensul paradise with yam seng.... the yam seng for erotic and sensual paradise when your follwers having sex and the ex wife being watcher
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[quote]Ha ha , this shows your desperation. Can you just go back 1 verse to verse 29 to see the particular verse. You cannot backtrack in your reading?
where??
until u can provide x 100 wives in Bible than i can agree lah ...where show me x100 wives..r u adding ur assumption?
What now? Still want to argue on verse 29 versus 30? Ha ha . I have caught you not knowing your bible once again. However your buddy in 'wkk5159' applied mental gymnastics and claim its x100 grace. Dunno where he got that from ... oh yeah ... his wet dreams .... ha ha
where ? what the meaning?
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Of course Paul is a liar. He gave 3 different versions of his vision ... meeting with biblical Jesus. Yet you revere him being an apostle of your man God. Ha ha , an apostle who had never met , walked and talked to biblical Jesus. Something is wrong here ....
If Paul is liars we see christian leaving yet is growing strong....those who 'buta huruf' in Bible will think paul is liars because peoples like u think knows well about Bible but the fact nuts..
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But the RC are an earlier Christian denomination than yours. Ha ha , now the RC is wrong because you cannot answer any questions. They might think you are wrong ... which you probably are. Ha ha , old refuted arguments. Circling and bowing does not mean worship. Why are you recycling already refuted arguments? No more arguments left in you?
if u so interested, go to RC and find out since I have no knowlege about rc.. the ten commandent already made it clear "
4 “You shall not make for yourself an image in the form of anything in heaven above or on the earth beneath or in the waters below. 5 You shall not bow down to them or worship them; for I, the Lord your God, am a jealous God, punishing the children for the sin of the parents to the third and fourth generation of those who hate me, 6 but showing love to a thousand generations of those who love me and keep my commandments.
so, bowing or circling an object form of anything is still wrong and abomniation ...
However you are avoiding answering the issue. You referred to mark12:25 and mat22:30 and argued that there is no physical pleasure in the Christian heaven. However the 2 said verses are addressing 'at resurrection' not heaven. I have already caught you lying. Not to mention your mis use of gal3:28. Why do you need to lie?
oh boy are u so stupid? when we are 'bangkit' of course lah we face GOD...but that doesnt mean we going have all those houris and those nonsense..
Issit? Did I go on rampage? I am laughing at your low level mentality. Nobody knows how Prophet Muhammad(saw) looked like. A caricature with a bomb for turban can be arabs , jews , bengalis or the infamous 'wkk5159'. Who are you talking about? You don't seem to be able to separate fact and fiction. See me in any anger?
u still did not answer me yet..the men turban with bom made muslims world wide anger...maybe u not angry because old fargot good for nothing and like find fault...so, my question still stand...why muslims get angry and burn the norway flag for seeing the men with turban and bomb...
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So what is the meaning in the description of biblical Jesus , your man God in rev1:14 and rev1:16? As far as I can see , he is a monster having eyes of fire and a double edged sword tongue. Ha ha .... , you will probably invoke the escape clause ... its a parable .... yes? You are the one asking for the description of biblical Jesus , your man God in the bible. I responded with the 2 verses. You cannot accept what the bible states. Where is me changing topics? Round and round goes 'truth.9' chasing his own backside.
how do I know how Jesus look like? Show me in Bible when did Jesus says u can worshipped me in image??
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[quote]I dunno , your bible states that
(1) you get x100 wives in the christian heaven as reward (don't you have conjugal relationship with your wife)
(2) drinking wine or 'yam seng' in the christian heaven
(3) treasures in the christian heaven
Sounds a lot like having physical pleasures in the Christian heaven. I have provided the support verses but you are just in blind denial without any scriptural support. It appears that you are blindly denying even your own bible. By your logic , Christianity is a hijack form of Hinduism. 'Sepiroth' must be grinning that indirectly you are admitting that Christianity is a Hinduism hijack.
the problem with you...u adding with yam seng and x100wives when the Bible did not mention...u twisiting too much and I know why peoples avoiding debate with you...u nothing but serpent 'o ye generation of vipers...it suit u
BTW the video you provided is talking about the paths to rebirth and life on earth. Heaven is a different thing. Ha ha .... wait ... to you heaven = earth? Aiyoyo tambi ... this one also confused aaaah?
ask sepi lah...in hindus heaven have all those marriage couples...so probably muhammad have hijacked the teachings is it?? our heaven do not have such marriage couples rather angel of gods...
Truth.8 posted on 27-10-2013 12:24 PM
yes you have divert the topic to rc and etc...u just another muslims sore losser...boooo
Ha ha , need I remind you that you are the one who started to talk about RC. You asked for a description of biblical Jesus , your man God , I provided it. You cannot accept it and blame the Catholics. Even your good buddy , the unreliable defender of the faithful - 'wkk5159' seem to blame the catholics. Appears that the catholics bear the brunt of your frustration. Not very christian .... are you?
where ? which verses?
Asking for the verse about wine in heaven again for the 3rd time? Are you senile. Never mind , refer to mat26:29. Can you read and understand the verse? Else ask any english teacher to help you.
what does he mat 19:29 wrote? mind telling us??
I get a feeling you are dumbfounded. That is why you are asking the same questions over and over again without challenging me. To help a senile person like you , mat19:29 (NIV bible) :
And everyone who has left houses or brothers or sisters or father or mother or wife or children or fields for my sake will receive a hundred times as much and will inherit eternal life
What does it mean by 'will receive a hundred times as much' or x100?
so, it did not mention about x100wives. so what is the issue here? trying fool us with your cunning way...sorry it wont .
You've just expose your kindergarden comprehension capability. What does the phrase '..will receive a hundred times as much..' mean? Is there the word 'wife' in the said verse? Ha ha , if your comprehension is poor , don't start blaming others .... aiyoyo tambi ...
where ? i cant see?
Cannot see about the verse of wine in heaven? Cannot see or just plain blind or too afraid to see? A combination of the three I guess. I will help you again , mat26:29 (NIV bible)
I tell you, I will not drink from this fruit of the vine from now on until that day when I drink it new with you in my Father’s kingdom.”
what does it mean? have you a Bible scholar ? how could be so stupid. is a parabale...Jesus always spoke parable...
u making fool out urself shame shame shame
yam seng? sorry...our heaven is not erotic or sensul paradise with yam seng.... the yam seng for erotic and sensual paradise when your follwers having sex and the ex wife being watcher
What does 'fruit of the vine' mean? The following is the answer from a Christian site :
Mark 14:23-25 Then He took the cup, and when He had given thanks He gave it to them, and they all drank from it. And He said to them, "This is My blood of the new covenant, which is shed for many. "Assuredly, I say to you, I will no longer drink of the fruit of the vine until that day when I drink it new in the kingdom of God."
He drank wine and had his disciples drink it also.
Matt 26:29 "But I say to you, I will not drink of this fruit of the vine from now on until that day when I drink it new with you in My Father's kingdom." Jesus promises to drink it again as a time of rejoicing when he comes back.
Your christian buddies confirm that 'fruit of the vine' means wine. In other words an alcoholic beverage or in our local dilect 'yaaaaammm seng'. You cannot accept it and now its the christian over used escape clause - its a parable. Dei tambi , do tell us what is the parable of 'the fruit of the vine' from the biblical perspective. In fact biblical Jesus , your man God first miracle was to change water to wine for a 'yam seng' session. True or false?
If you keep on claiming that there is no physical pleasure in your christian heaven , you need to provide the biblical proof. You tried to lie by referring to mark12:25 , mat22:30 and gal3:28. Your lie have been exposed , you no longer dare to talk about it. Where is your biblical proof that there is no physical pleasure in the Christian heaven?
Waaah! You sure get a 'hard on' thinking of having sex while another female watch you in 'the act'. Its ok , with x100 wives in the christian heaven , it is not impossible.
where??
where ? what the meaning?
Ha ha , why are you so scared of mat19:29? Since you might be scared of the NIV bible , lets look into the KJV (or Gay-J-V) bible
And every one that hath forsaken houses, or brethren, or sisters, or father, or mother, or wife, or children, or lands, for my name's sake, shall receive an hundredfold, and shall inherit everlasting life.
Same thing - receive a hundredfold or x100. No matter how you try to twist , the meaning of the verse still remain the same. Ha ha , unless its a parable again. Is it a parable? .... ha ha
If Paul is liars we see christian leaving yet is growing strong....those who 'buta huruf' in Bible will think paul is liars because peoples like u think knows well about Bible but the fact nuts..
The bible has shown that Paul was and still is a liar. He provided 3 different versions of his so called vision of biblical Jesus. Why don't you read about the 3 versions in the book of acts. I am surprised that you don't even know of this problem. This shows that you don't read and understand your bible.
if u so interested, go to RC and find out since I have no knowlege about rc.. the ten commandent already made it clear "
4 “You shall not make for yourself an image in the form of anything in heaven above or on the earth beneath or in the waters below. 5 You shall not bow down to them or worship them; for I, the Lord your God, am a jealous God, punishing the children for the sin of the parents to the third and fourth generation of those who hate me, 6 but showing love to a thousand generations of those who love me and keep my commandments.
so, bowing or circling an object form of anything is still wrong and abomniation ...
Why do you keep on running down the catholics? Not very christian of you. Read carefully the 4th commandment : '..You shall not make for yourself an image in the form of anything..'. 'An image' means
A reproduction of the form of a person or object, especially a sculptured likeness.
This means to worship something that has been reproduced in form ; a person , animal etc. Do tell us , the kaabah represent what image? In addition , nobody worship the kaabah. Where in the 4th commandment prohibit circling the kaabah? Can you point out such to me. Ha ha , you are making up things again. Appears that your arguments comes from your imagination or wet dreams. Poor you.
oh boy are u so stupid? when we are 'bangkit' of course lah we face GOD...but that doesnt mean we going have all those houris and those nonsense..
That is exactly my point , at resurrection , which you are agreeing to after you have been cornered and your lie exposed. In post #31 , you appealed to the following :
Jesus addressed this question when the Sadducees asked him about whether there will still be marriages in heaven and whether they will still be married...
...“At the resurrection people will neither marry nor be given in marriage; they will be like the angels in heaven” (Matthew 12:25)
...Jesus said in Mark 12:25 that “When the dead rise, they will neither marry nor be given in marriage; they will be like the angels in heaven.”
Ooi tambi , mat12:25 and Mark12:25 is about at resurrection to face divine judgement. Nothing to do with heaven. Why are you lying about the so called 'marriage in heaven' but appealing to mat/mark12:25 to lie whereas the 2 said verses are stating about the period of resurrection to face divine judgement. Sex or physical pleasure should be the last thing in one's mind.
You further lied in your post #38 stating of gal3:28 about females in the christian heaven as follows :
anyone can feel the heaven by accepting Jesus: Gal 3:28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.
However gal3:28 is about Paul (the liar) justification by faith only and nothing to do with the christian heaven.
Ha ha , when cornered , you turn around and start agreeing with me. You are a snake ... nothing more ... hisssss ...
You should be embarrassed that your lie have been exposed.
u still did not answer me yet..the men turban with bom made muslims world wide anger...maybe u not angry because old fargot good for nothing and like find fault...so, my question still stand...why muslims get angry and burn the norway flag for seeing the men with turban and bomb...
You are a example of a person with low intellect. Why are you asking me to answer why a caricature makes some muslims angry? How should I know and bother about the emotions of others. I am not angered but bemused as what makes you think the caricature is Prophet Muhammad(saw)? Ha ha , what a retard question you are asking me of why it made others angry. I know you are desperate but at least you need to retain some sort of rational thinking.
how do I know how Jesus look like? Show me in Bible when did Jesus says u can worshipped me in image??
Biblical Jesus , your man God did not even command anyone to worship him much less admitting to be God. Why are you worshiping him being God? You tell me , why are your fellow brethren worshiping the cross?
the problem with you...u adding with yam seng and x100wives when the Bible did not mention...u twisiting too much and I know why peoples avoiding debate with you...u nothing but serpent 'o ye generation of vipers...it suit u
Ha ha , you are denying your own bible. Mat19:29 definately states that one will get a hundredfold wives. mat26:29 definately states of wine labelling it 'the fruit of the vine' and a christian commentary confirm it to be wine. Isn't drinking alcoholic beverage 'yam seng' in the local dilect? The problem with you is that you are too scared to face the truth in the bible as it will shatter your faith. Your faith is brought about by stories told by Christians with no reference to the bible. Once we start to refer to the bible , a different story comes out. This is where your denial comes about. The viper should be you as you argue without any scriptural support / evidence. In short , you only BS.
ask sepi lah...in hindus heaven have all those marriage couples...so probably muhammad have hijacked the teachings is it?? our heaven do not have such marriage couples rather angel of gods...
It is so easy fir you to make a claim without proof. When asked for evidence , you start running away. For all we know , the original teachings of hinduism comes from a prophet of Allah but got corrupted along the way. I have no issues if there are similarities. There you go again , making claim without evidence per the underlined. Ooi tambi , just a couple of paragraphs above you agreed that the said 2 verses states about the period of judgement. Now its is back to your BS about heaven. You are a just a con man trying to promote christianity by lying. It will not work as others will ask for biblical evidence which you cannot produce. Then you start to twist and turn and try to run away. Ha ha
sam1528 posted on 27-10-2013 10:11 PM
Ha ha , need I remind you that you are the one who started to talk about RC. You asked for a descr ...
hello half past six usatz...u have hard time understanding my wiritng is it?
tell me why muslims world wide went rampage when the image of a men with turban with bomb and u says u not?
than u not muslim is it??
let see how this old senile ustaz reply....me waiting
mashimaru83 posted on 26-10-2013 11:57 PM
Mmm... none of your posts or links answered the question, or can be used to prove your "sex is NOT ...
Mmm... none of your posts or links answered the question, or can be used to prove your "sex is NOT good in spritual body" claim. The way I understand your claim is: sex is allowable in spiritual body but it has negative effect (hence NOT good). I don't see any of the posted text/links talk about this, unfortunately
since Bible did not mention on that issue, why need bother to think such when it will be good to be angle of GOD than erotic sensual paradise having fun fun fun .....
There are
(1) arabs
(2) indians
(3) bengalis
(4) christians at the Swahili coast
(5) afghans
(6) pakistanis
(7) greeks
How should I know why the people went on rampage? Could be they think that the caricature insulted Prophet Muhammad(saw). I for one is bemused as it shows the moronic character of the person who sketched the caricature. The person do not even know that there are numerous cultures that their menfolk wear a turban.
Ha ha , are you embarrassed that you have been caught lying about 'non marriage in christian heaven' but appealing to verses that states about at ressurection (awaiting judgement)?
Truth.8 posted on 27-10-2013 10:22 PM
since Bible did not mention on that issue, why need bother to think such when it will be good to b ...
Truth.8:
since Bible did not mention on that issue, why need bother to think such when it will be good to be angle of GOD than erotic sensual paradise having fun fun fun .....
Actually, the one who bother to put the claim up was you (sex is NOT good in spiritual body). I simply asked for the evidence.
How about Adam and Eve in the Garden of Eden? According to Genesis 3:17:
To Adam he said, "Because you listened to your wife and ate fruit from the tree about which I commanded you, 'You must not eat from it,' "Cursed is the ground because of you; through painful toil you will eat food from it all the days of your life.
Truth.8 posted on 28-10-2013 12:45 PM
perhaps this can make u understand
Ha ha , you are now appealing to an atheist for answers? By the way , Aayan Hirsi Ali have been proven to be a liar. She lied about her refugee status to the Dutch Government. Just when the Dutch authorities were closing in , she ran away to the US. Bit part of the article from The Guardian :
The TV programme, broadcast 10 days ago, highlighted the fact that Hirsi Ali had falsified her original asylum application in Holland, saying that she had not come from war-torn Somalia as she claimed, but from Kenya, where she had lived peacefully for 10 years. The fact that she had lied was well-known, retorted Hirsi Ali, making the point that was she was fleeing a forced marriage. Not so, said van Dongen, using testimony from her brother and husband to allege that the marriage was not made under compulsion. Nor van Dongen said, was Hirsi Ali raised in a strict Muslim family.
It makes sense now , you a proven liar appealing to another proven liar. Ha ha
Good question but I have replied this kind of question several times. ok, sex is good while we in physical body not in spritiual body. I am not sure such kind of goody things exist in our heaven but if this thing exist it better to keep silent otherwise we not sincere in our daily spiritual life.
Until now, you haven't put the evidence to support your claim that sex is not good in spiritual body. Remember, not good means the action (sex in spiritual body) can be carried out but it has negative effect. Since I don't see any evidence from you, does that mean you were simply making up the claim? It looks like a lie to me, what do you think?
mashimaru83 posted on 28-10-2013 01:15 PM
Look at your post #3
Until now, you haven't put the evidence to support your claim that sex i ...
Until now, you haven't put the evidence to support your claim that sex is not good in spiritual body. Remember, not good means the action (sex in spiritual body) can be carried out but it has negative effect. Since I don't see any evidence from you, does that mean you were simply making up the claim? It looks like a lie to me, what do you think?
have you bother to read my posting? what does the writing mean to you? or u lying to says that u understood? it looks like a lie to me ,, what do you think??
mashimaru83 posted on 29-10-2013 10:50 AM
I'm sorry. What posting that you were referring to? Have you put the evidence to the claim that "s ...
the posting on heaven and sex?? have you understood? do i need to repeat like parrot??
surly there is no sex in heaven simply because Bible did not mention...thats my point...
if muslims claimed it has sex, houris , rounded eyes, pearly handsome boy...thats ur believe but we view this is not truth....but ur choice to believe
btw, why is ur god so much favour with rounded eyes? what about mata sepet ??? is that true or just fabricate???sound to me like story ...
here is the link:
Sensual ParadiseIn Islam, the concept of 72 virgins (houri) refers to an aspect of Jannah (Paradise). This concept is grounded in Qur'anic text which describe a sensual Paradise where believing men are rewarded by being wed[1] to virgins with "full grown", "swelling" or "pears-shaped" breasts.[2][3] Conversly, women will be provided with only one man, and they "will be satisfied with him".[4]
Contemporary mainstream Islamic scholars, for example; Gibril Haddad, have commented on the erotic nature of the Qur'anic Paradise, by saying some men may need ghusl (ablution required after sexual discharge) just for hearing certain verses.[5]
Orthodox Muslim theologians such as al-Ghazali (died 1111 CE) and al-Ash'ari (died 935 CE) have all discussed the sensual pleasures found in Paradise, relating hadith that describe Paradise as a slave market where there will be "no buy and sale, but... If any man will wish to have sexual intercourse with a woman, he will do at once."[6][7]
It is quoted by Ibn Kathir, in his Qur'anic Commentary, the Tafsir ibn Kathir,[8] and they are graphically described by Qur'anic commentator and polymath, al-Suyuti (died 1505), who, echoing a hasan hadith[9] from Ibn Majah,[10] wrote that the perpetual virgins will all "have appetizing vaginas", and that the "penis of the Elected never softens. The erection is eternal".[11]
The sensual pleasures between believers and houri in Paradise are also confirmed by the two Sahih collections of hadith, namely Sahih Bukhari[12] and Sahih Muslim, where we read that they will be virgins who are so beautiful, pure and transparent that "the marrow of the bones of their legs will be seen through the bones and the flesh",[13] and that "the believers will visit and enjoy them".[14] DescriptionsThere are several descriptions related to houri that are found in various Islamic references. Some include: Physical Attributes:
In addition to Quranic translations of 78:33 specifying the virgins will be voluptuous[20], Sahih International translates it as "full-breasted [companions] of equal age". Tafsir al-Jalalayn says "and buxom maidens (kawā‘ib is the plural of kā‘ib) of equal age (atrāb is the plural of tirb)". Several Islamic scholars explain that they will have "large, round breasts which are not inclined to hang".[21]
Truth.8 posted on 29-10-2013 10:42 AM
please refer the posting for the reason...and dont come with your stupid reasoning that i am avoid ...
we didn't say sex is good in paradise. You're the ones who openly claims that sex is not good for spiritual form.
I didn't ask for postings. I asked for the Bible verses that supports your claim "sex is not good in spiritual form" as per your post #3. I only asked for a quoted verse, you can merely quote it here.
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