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Author: gancity

ATGM Options For Malaysia Army (April'07 Tempur edition)

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Post time 11-4-2007 02:25 PM | Show all posts
rpg 7 memng sudah ada dlm inventori atm, skg nak cari new version yg lbh power.........
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Post time 11-4-2007 02:44 PM | Show all posts

Reply #40 ef/x's post

Tapi kalau nak guna pakai scrambler, AT weapon takleh le bagak...kena one-man portable le...
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Post time 11-4-2007 03:37 PM | Show all posts
aku rasa this new vehicle mounted atgm nih cam bushmaster + TOW cam yg ada kat Bradley tuh....... takpun 30mm cannon + Kornet kat Kliver Turret tuh.........

kalau dpt Bushmaster + Kornet pun ngancam gak........
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Post time 11-4-2007 06:50 PM | Show all posts


Lightweight vehicles go to war: ATVs, motorcycles and battery-powered bicycles do their duty in Iraq, Afghanistan.By Siuru, Bill

http://www.allbusiness.com/transportation/motor-vehicle-manufacturing/222036-4.html

[ Last edited by  ef/x at 11-4-2007 07:19 PM ]
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Post time 11-4-2007 07:23 PM | Show all posts
Aku rase trend akan dtg adalah utk small, fast & nimble vehicles spt buggy, ATV dll  dlm konflik asymmetric warfare
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Post time 11-4-2007 08:13 PM | Show all posts
Javelin, Metis and Milan are man portable missiles, others are not.

Best one today is Spike, the only missile that allows both fire and forget and fire and update. ;)

http://youtube.com/watch?v=qpJZKrSACoA
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Post time 11-4-2007 10:56 PM | Show all posts
problem is, they won't buy spike cos the extremists won't allow it.
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Post time 11-4-2007 11:30 PM | Show all posts

Reply #47 Debmey's post

You are an idiot
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Reply #44 ef/x's post

cant tis work ah? the bike very old design...
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Post time 12-4-2007 12:15 AM | Show all posts
Originally posted by capable_warrior at 11-4-2007 11:30 PM
You are an idiot


why did you call me an idiot my fren?
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Post time 12-4-2007 12:48 AM | Show all posts
Originally posted by capable_warrior at 11-4-2007 11:30 PM
You are an idiot
Originally posted by Debmey at 12-4-2007 12:15 AM
why did you call me an idiot my fren?

I lol'd
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Post time 12-4-2007 06:14 AM | Show all posts
From what I read ,this AtGM buy wil be vehicle launched and medium to long range type...hence only 18  will be procured .what interests me , what platfrom/vehicle will be use?..I suspect retrofit on  Korean AFVs or Adnans....
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Post time 12-4-2007 08:24 AM | Show all posts

Reply #52 matmin77's post

well, that depends on the system really because it will determine what kind of integration needed, how intensive the carrier will have to be modified, what kind of guidence system will be needed and so on and so forth.

the safest way is to use a ready made system or a system that has been used by another country. But knowing Malaysia, it will be intensively modified to suit our needs. or it is because we Malaysians like to modify everything   

The downside of the "let's modify everything" approach is that it will increase the cost of everything, from the cost of integration, time and the risk of the program scrapped because of unrealistic expectation. Another "dark" side of this approach is most of the components are usually selected through brochure buying. The manufacturer will of course say they can integrate their equipment into every system in the face of the earth during their sales pitch. but when the contract is signed, its another story all together.

[ Last edited by  tin at 12-4-2007 08:25 AM ]
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Post time 12-4-2007 08:44 AM | Show all posts

Reply #53 tin's post

biasa la tu, kalau tak modified, macam mana jerung nak buat bisness? Kena tunjuk kat rakyat kata depa ada buat value added products, hasilnya, mmg value of the product betul2 baik punya being added....muahahaha..
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Post time 12-4-2007 08:56 AM | Show all posts
Aku rasa, foreign companies ni pening gak, nak jolok apa kat Jerung Perkasa betina ni...kalau Jerung Perkasa jantan, leh jolok dgn Merz, pompuan..
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Post time 12-4-2007 09:01 AM | Show all posts
yg besh nilai kontrak dah tahu iaitu USD36m utk 18 unit, tapi tak tahu jenis apa yg nak digunakan....... kalau system tu murah leh up la jadi sama ngan nilai kontrak tuh..........
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Post time 12-4-2007 10:09 AM | Show all posts
The downside of the "let's modify everything" approach is that it will increase the cost of everything, from the cost of integration, time and the risk of the program scrapped because of unrealistic expectation. Another "dark" side of this approach is most of the components are usually selected through brochure buying. The manufacturer will of course say they can integrate their equipment into every system in the face of the earth during their sales pitch. but when the contract is signed, its another story all together.



That may be very true for more sophiscated weapons such as, aircrafts, ships or tanks. ATGM is a straight forward thing. I don't think you will have much problems.
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Post time 12-4-2007 11:56 AM | Show all posts
Originally posted by gancity at 11-4-2007 11:47 PM
cant tis work ah? the bike very old design...


Used in Algeria & Indochina... at that time 'Vespa' is very popular machine, I doubt they still in service today
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Post time 12-4-2007 12:07 PM | Show all posts
Of course it works. the whole point is to have motor powered movement for a relative heavy weapon to give an edge to infantry.
But the barrel seems to be fixed onto the front of the scooter, but I'm sure they can dismantle the thing to give it that flexibility when necessary.
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 Author| Post time 12-4-2007 10:21 PM | Show all posts

Reply #58 ef/x's post

:hmm: ...my Q here is whether the bike can hold the firing impact or not....

[ Last edited by  gancity at 12-4-2007 10:23 PM ]
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