A Convenant that never happened

Debmey

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Originally posted by Debmey at 16-2-2007 02:28 PM
So how high must the flood be to completely cover Singapore?

It was said that the ark was perched on a 17000ft high constantly snow covered summit of the mountain

"15 cubits (22.5 feet) above the mountains" probably indicates the ship's draft when loaded




Even the Quranic version of where the final resting place of Noah arc which is Mt Judi has been described by scientists as more accurate than Mt Ararat as most people believed..

" El-Judi" is a mountain in the country of Masur, and extends to Jezirah Ibn "Omar which belongs to the territory of el-Mausil. This mountain is eight farsangs (about 32 miles) from the Tigris. The place where the ship stopped, which is on top of this mountain, is still to be seen " (Montgomery ( 1972).

ALLAH IS GREAT

Debmey

It was said that the ark was perched on a 17000ft high constantly snow covered summit of the mountain

"15 cubits (22.5 feet) above the mountains" probably indicates the ship's draft when loaded

So if the flood can carry a ship 17000 ft, how can it be a local flood like you muslims claim? please explain.

Even the Quranic version of where the final resting place of Noah arc which is Mt Judi has been described by scientists as more accurate than Mt Ararat as most people believed..

Wrong, the Bible did not say the ark rested on mt.ararat itself. Shows you never read the Bible yourself.
The location ofmt.judi itself is confusing.

eastrun

How can you be sure that the Malay translation is wrong. Well..you also not very sure which translation is the right one.Maybe the Malay one is the right one, then the English is the false one...what do you want to comment about that?

It is not false post. It is fact and truth. It is you who ignored it even though it is clear, you are wrong and you are not sure about that. And for that, the Holy Quran commented:

"Wert thou to follow the common run of those on earth, they will lead thee away from the way of Allah. They follow nothing but conjecture: they do nothing but lie."(Surah Al-An'am 6:116)

salam03

Debmey,
You're not answering the main question here....instead,u play escapism....you ont have clue how to defend the verses in the bible mentioned before,so you opt to attack on Iman_6,giving all  the nonsense question....why u so interested in the details of the Noah Flood? because u want to run away from giving explaination/defend the bible,or u want produce an episode in Discovery Channl is it?
No no no...because u cannot answer the main issue here....shame on you.:ketuk:

Originally posted by Debmey at 24-2-2007 04:34 PM

So if the flood can carry a ship 17000 ft, how can it be a local flood like you muslims claim? please explain.


What is the difference between universal impact and localized ?
Why not you read the link below to find out.



Wrong, the Bible did not say the ark rested on mt.ararat itself. Sho ...

Debmey,

It shows that you yourself did not read the bible. And you know what, I just loath at how disrespectful the scriptures wrote about the prophets, unlike muslims whom have high regards on all prophets being messengers of God.

I shall not have the time to debate with you, please go to these link, and you can also google yourself to find more infos.


http://origins.swau.edu/papers/global/noah/eng/index.html

ciao

Debmey

The Bible never said its on mt,ararat. Go read again.

And how can it be a local flood when teh ship was carried 17000 ft? no muslim can answer?

Common Deb, dont play dumb and lazy. just click the link and google for more infos.
I dont have the time to entertain your usual trolls.

ciao for now.

Debmey

I have already done that, its you who didn't.

so how can there be a local flood if it can lift a ship up 17000 ft according to the quran? i have yet to come across one muslim who can give me the answer.

WLIO

Wrong, the Bible did not say the ark rested on mt.ararat itself. Shows you never read the Bible yourself.
The location ofmt.judi itself is confusing.

Because bible have too many version so we don't know which is the true bible.
Anyway bible is just like a bed time story book


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New International Version  

1 ButGod remembered Noah and all the wild animals and the livestock thatwere with him in the ark, and he sent a wind over the earth, and thewaters receded.
2 Now the springs of the deep and the floodgates of the heavens had been closed, and the rain had stopped falling from the sky.

3 The water receded steadily from the earth. At the end of the hundred and fifty days the water had gone down,
4 and on the seventeenth day of the seventh month the ark came to rest on the mountains of Ararat.
5 Thewaters continued to recede until the tenth month, and on the first dayof the tenth month the tops of the mountains became visible.

Debmey

Ahahahhahahahah............... muslims stuck. ahhahahahahahahahah............................

WLIO

QUOTE:
Wrong, the Bible did not say the ark rested on mt.ararat itself. Shows you never read the Bible yourself.
The location ofmt.judi itself is confusing.

Because bible have too many version so we don't know which is the true bible.
Anyway bible is just like a bed time story book


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New International Version  

1ButGod remembered Noah and all the wild animals and the livestockthatwere with him in the ark, and he sent a wind over the earth, andthewaters receded.
2 Now the springs of the deep and the floodgates of the heavens had been closed, and the rain had stopped falling from the sky.

3 The water receded steadily from the earth. At the end of the hundred and fifty days the water had gone down,
4 and on the seventeenth day of the seventh month the ark came to rest on the mountains of Ararat.
5Thewaters continued to recede until the tenth month, and on the firstdayof the tenth month the tops of the mountains became visible.

Debmey

Ahahahhahahahah............... muslims stuck. ahhahahahahahahahah............................

WLIO

Wrong, the Bible did not say the ark rested on mt.ararat itself. Shows you never read the Bible yourself.
The location ofmt.judi itself is confusing.

Because bible have too many version so we don't know which is the true bible.
Anyway bible is just like a bed time story book


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New International Version  

1ButGodremembered Noah and all the wild animals and the livestockthatwere withhim in the ark, and he sent a wind over the earth, andthewatersreceded.
2 Now the springs of the deep and the floodgates of the heavens had been closed, and the rain had stopped falling from the sky.

3 The water receded steadily from the earth. At the end of the hundred and fifty days the water had gone down,
4 and on the seventeenth day of the seventh month the ark came to rest on the mountains of Ararat.
5Thewaterscontinued to recede until the tenth month, and on the firstdayof thetenth month the tops of the mountains became visible.

Debmey

ahahahahaha.......... mt.judi was never mentioned in the Bible at all. Looks like you don't even kno what you are talking about.

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WLIO

Eventhe Quranic version of where the final resting place of Noah arc whichis Mt Judi has been described by scientists as more accurate than MtArarat as most people believed.

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Did anyone see anybody mention or write that MT JUDI written in the bible?

Someone try to divert


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Debmey

nope, the bible never said the ark landed on mt.Ararat. You are stuck dead already.

Originally posted by Iman_6 at 24-2-2007 04:19 PM



It was said that the ark was perched on a 17000ft high constantly snow covered summit of the mountain

"15 cubits (22.5 feet) above the mountains" probably indicates the ship' ...

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Debmey

and still no muslim can tell us hoiw can it be a local flood when it supposedly carried teh ark 17000 ft above sea level.

WLIO

QUOTE:
Wrong, the Bible did not say the ark rested on mt.ararat itself. Shows you never read the Bible yourself.
The location ofmt.judi itself is confusing.

Because bible have too many version so we don't know which is the true bible.
Anyway bible is just like a bed time story book


kharrrrr   kharrrr    kharrrrrr

New International Version  

1ButGodrememberedNoah and all the wild animals and the livestockthatwere withhim in theark, and he sent a wind over the earth, andthewatersreceded.
2 Now the springs of the deep and the floodgates of the heavens had been closed, and the rain had stopped falling from the sky.

3 The water receded steadily from the earth. At the end of the hundred and fifty days the water had gone down,
4 and on the seventeenth day of the seventh month the ark came to rest on the mountains of Ararat.
5Thewaterscontinuedto recede until the tenth month, and on the firstdayof thetenth monththe tops of the mountains became visible.