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The Bible mentioned abt Human Spirit(roh) but Muslims unable to explain

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 Author| Post time 6-10-2006 02:10 AM | Show all posts
The spirit, in turn, is supposed to radiate through the mind and the body to the outside world.
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Post time 6-10-2006 09:36 AM | Show all posts
adakah roh yang dimaksudkan di dlm bible tu hanya kpd manusia sahaja....bagaimana dengan makhluk tuhan kamu yang lain?????
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Post time 6-10-2006 09:42 AM | Show all posts
in brain??? lor... dah tuh, tikam bahagian badan, boleh mati .. camne tuh?

ada orang kena kanser kat badan ka, kaki ka, perut ka, boleh bawak ke mati .. abis tuh takde efek kt otak ka :lol :lol
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Post time 6-10-2006 10:41 AM | Show all posts
Originally posted by dak_ker at 6-10-2006 09:42 AM
in brain??? lor... dah tuh, tikam bahagian badan, boleh mati .. camne tuh?

ada orang kena kanser kat badan ka, kaki ka, perut ka, boleh bawak ke mati .. abis tuh takde efek kt otak ka :lol :lol


:setuju::setuju::setuju:

yeahhh  that rite......
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Post time 6-10-2006 11:21 AM | Show all posts
hehehe......... truth.8 need some faith aid.
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 Author| Post time 6-10-2006 11:24 AM | Show all posts
Originally posted by burning_ash at 6-10-2006 09:36 AM
adakah roh yang dimaksudkan di dlm bible tu hanya kpd manusia sahaja....bagaimana dengan makhluk tuhan kamu yang lain?????



I am talking about human spirit. God spirit already in C&C . pls refer over there under title "Trinity" and 'One God but Two'
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Post time 6-10-2006 11:25 AM | Show all posts

As TRUTH.8 Wish.. so I put In here

All translation from http://www.biblegateway.com
Using KJV translation

References from truth.8
Zech.12:1
The burden of the word of the LORD for Israel, saith the LORD,

which stretcheth forth the heavens, and layeth the foundation of

the earth, and formeth the spirit of man within

him.

Job 32:8
But there is a spirit in man: and the inspiration

of the Almighty giveth them understanding.

Rom 8:16
The Spirit itself beareth witness with our spirit, that we are the

children of God:

1 Cor. 2:11
For what man knoweth the things of a man, save the spirit of man

which is in him? even so the things of God knoweth no man, but the

Spirit of God.

James 2:26
For as the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without works

is dead also.



Nothing in there say Spirit in BRAIN.


Romans 8:27
And he that searcheth the hearts knoweth what is the mind of the

Spirit, because he maketh intercession for the saints according to

the will of God.

Its say MIND OF THE SPIRIT. NOT SPIRIT IN MIND. Its say MIND not BRAIN.


Ephesians 4:22-24
22That ye put off concerning the former conversation the old man, which is corrupt according to the deceitful lusts;
23And be renewed in the spirit of your mind
24And that ye put on the new man, which after God is created in righteousness and true holiness.

The verse not say renewed in the spirit inside your mind

of and inside are different meaning.

1 Chronicles 28:11,12,13

11Then David gave to Solomon his son the pattern of the porch, and of the houses thereof, and of the treasuries thereof, and of the upper chambers thereof, and of the inner parlours thereof, and of the place of the mercy seat,

12And the pattern of all that he had by the spirit, of the courts of the house of the LORD, and of all the chambers round about, of the treasuries of the house of God, and of the treasuries of the dedicated things:

13Also for the courses of the priests and the Levites, and for all the work of the service of the house of the LORD, and for all the vessels of service in the house of the LORD.

Hey.. I think its about David give all his responsibilities and speciality to Solomon.. His son.

How come you not understand your own bible.


Daniel 7:15
Truth.8 Version
[ The Interpretation of the Dream ] "I, Daniel, was troubled in spirit, and the visions that passed through my mind disturbed me. ( spirit that gives vision & dreams via mind). where does it located? In brain /mind


Internet version
I Daniel was grieved in my spirit in the midst of my body, and the visions of my head troubled me.


I think VISION AND SPIRIT are not the same...


continue..
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Post time 6-10-2006 11:26 AM | Show all posts
awas teman, jgn sampai kita diperkotak katik oleh syaitan yg barangkali tgh do tergelak dgn pertelingkahan ini....

Ayuh kita kembali kpd ajaran Muhammad s.a.w.. dimana Muhammad s.a.w telah bersabda bahwa sebagai Muslim kita mesti percaya kitab2 yg diturunkan Allah, antaranya Al-Quran, zabur , injil dan taurat....

Justeru Bible (yg dirujuk sbgi Injil) & Taurat (torah) yg menjadi pegangan mrk itu ada terkandung di dlmnya kebenaran kecuali yg diselewengkan... dan Al-Quran sebagai kesimpulan pd kesemua kitab2 tadi... setiap kitab yg diturunkan ada kelebihan dan tumpuan yg khusus sesuai dgn zamannya...demikian juga al-Quran yg mendidik dan menerangkan apa yg patut sebenar2nya...

Dan barangkali benar apa yg diperkataan tentang letaknya roh itu di dlm bible tersebut (roh terletak atau bermula drpd otak & menjadi akal) .. tetapi Al-Quran telah memperkemaskan lagi dgn menyatakan..pengetahuan ttg roh yg diturunkan terdahulu adalah sedikit benar diberikan kpd manusia, dan biarkan urusan roh itu kepada Allah... dan seterusnya ttg roh yg 'ditiupkan' kpd manusia , juga adalah info yg Tuhan berikan utk mrk yg mahu berfikir....

kalau terus2an mencemuh sesama manusia.. apakah dgnnya dapat memperoleh sesuatu manfaat atau kebenaran yg nyata?! jgnlah mencerca... AWAS muslimin, jgn sampai tertipu dgn tipu daya iblis, syaitan dan sekutunya..
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Post time 6-10-2006 11:27 AM | Show all posts
From Truth.8

Romans 8:5
Those who live according to the sinful nature have their minds set on what that nature desires; but those who live in accordance with the Spirit have their minds set on what the Spirit desires.

Romans 8:6
.....but the mind controlled by the Spirit is life and peace;
Truth bluffing again.. Let we see the actual verse


Romans 8:5-6
5For they that are after the flesh do mind the things of the flesh; but they that are after the Spirit the things of the Spirit.

6For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace.


Still nothing that say Spirit In BRAIN.


Romans 8:27
27And he that searcheth the hearts knoweth what is the mind of the Spirit, because he maketh intercession for the saints according to the will of God.

In simple english
AND HE SEARCH THE HEART KNOW WHAT IS THE MIND OF THE SPIRIT, BECAUSE HE MAKE INTERCESSION FOR THW SAAINTS ACCORDING TO THE WILL OF GOD
hmm... I think THE SPIRIT in this verse are refer to GABRIEL or ANGEL or maybe for you the HOLY SPIRIT.

1 Corinthians 14:15
TRUTH.8 version
So what shall I do? I will pray with my spirit, but I will also pray with my mind; I will sing with my spirit, but I will also sing with my mind.


Internet Version (KJV)
What is it then? I will pray with the spirit, and I will pray with the understanding also: I will sing with the spirit, and I will sing with the understanding also.

There are CONTRADICTION. Who right and who wrong?

continuee.............
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Post time 6-10-2006 11:27 AM | Show all posts

Conclusion


TRUTH.8 ARE LIAR AND CORRUPTED  PITY TO ALL CHRISTIANS FORUMMER.

TRUTH.8 ALREADY SET YOU ALL DOWN TO EARTH BY HIS MISUNDERSTANDING OF YOUR OWN BIBLE.

GOD GIVE BRAIN TO THINK, MIND TO UNDERSTAND, AND HEART TO FEEL.
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Post time 6-10-2006 11:28 AM | Show all posts
how about animal??? is it their spirit also in their brain????
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Post time 6-10-2006 11:28 AM | Show all posts
so what problem with those verses?? nothing. it mentioned spirit and some verses quote spirit and mind.


But not even one say SPIRIT IN BRAIN.. Are you confuse man?
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Post time 6-10-2006 11:29 AM | Show all posts
From Truth.8 in other thread
so what problem with those verses?? nothing. it mentioned spirit and some verses quote spirit and mind.

But not even one say SPIRIT IN BRAIN.. Are you confuse man?
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Post time 6-10-2006 11:30 AM | Show all posts
Originally posted by anticuado at 6-10-2006 11:28 AM
how about animal??? is it their spirit also in their brain????



ANSWER THAT TRUTH.8
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 Author| Post time 6-10-2006 11:31 AM | Show all posts
Originally posted by dak_ker at 6-10-2006 09:42 AM
in brain??? lor... dah tuh, tikam bahagian badan, boleh mati .. camne tuh?

ada orang kena kanser kat badan ka, kaki ka, perut ka, boleh bawak ke mati .. abis tuh takde efek kt otak ka :lol :lol



how come some muslims so dumb on  spirit subject??

once is mind is dead the spirit is depart and body is dead.

The Bible says "Mind controll by spirit"

Romans 8:6 (New International Version)

The mind of sinful man[a] is death, but the mind controlled by the Spirit is life and peace;

In another words, our spirit mind inside  brain. once is dead all the body is void ....tak boleh pakai....paham

the spirit of human is living things and will testified our wrong doings in last day/or judgment day.


simple as that.


[ Last edited by  Truth.8 at 6-10-2006 11:33 AM ]
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Post time 6-10-2006 11:33 AM | Show all posts
common la truth 8 .... in religion we cannot assume..... u cannot assume brain=mind....did u know what assume is???  assume = ass u me
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 Author| Post time 6-10-2006 11:34 AM | Show all posts
Originally posted by anticuado at 6-10-2006 11:28 AM
how about animal??? is it their spirit also in their brain????


hve u finished  reading my thread from begining ?
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 Author| Post time 6-10-2006 11:35 AM | Show all posts
Originally posted by anticuado at 6-10-2006 11:33 AM
common la truth 8 .... in religion we cannot assume..... u cannot assume brain=mind....did u know what assume is???  assume = ass u me



did i wrote assume? never.

the Bible says the spirit in our in mind inside the brain and controll by spirit.

islam failed to teach on spirit matter because islam is not part god callling
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Post time 6-10-2006 11:38 AM | Show all posts
Originally posted by Truth.8 at 6-10-2006 11:31 AM



how come some muslims so dumb on  spirit subject??

once is mind is dead the spirit is depart and body is dead.

The Bible says "Mind controll by spirit"

Romans 8:6 (New Inte ...



ur bible said "mind controll by spirit"...... its doesnt mean that the spirit is place inside the brain.....  u always assume la truth 8...................
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Post time 6-10-2006 11:38 AM | Show all posts
Originally posted by Truth.8 at 5-10-2006 03:29 PM


I would like  quote the above posting from muhamamd followers that "Jews once came to Muhammad  to question subject on Spirit matter. According to Muhammad the spirit is their god matters  ...


Triuth 8....
Spirit or ROH adalah urusan tuhan ..tak payah kau nak tanya soalan ini sampai menyatakan Nabi Muhammad Nabi Palsu..
Kau kata ROH itu di OTAK....Which part of the brain ??...
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