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Dr Mahathir Letak Jawatan Pengerusi Proton
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what bala ? explain la skit
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bioessence replied at 1-4-2016 10:43 AM
Proton ni satu idea megalomaniac utk negara kecil mcm Msia
33 tahun dah usia proton
Sweden pun kecik jugak. Elok ada kereta. Israel pun kecik, ada banyak kereta yahudi. |
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peynoTheLegend replied at 1-4-2016 06:46 AM
sentap la macai yg kunun fefeeling anti proton sebab tak suka mahader... family business mahader kat ...
Abang peyno tak berdecit ke? |
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betul tu
why is it become so bad of doing automotive industry for our country ?
sebelum ni ramai juga berdegar2 kata sampai bila kita ni nak jadi umat pengguna tapi bila someone trying to take the chellenge and to prove that kita pun boleh buat kereta kita sendiri everybody tak puas hati, kutuk dah la satu hal they even mintak tutup proton so that they can buy foreign cars
sampai bila nak jadi umat pengguna ni ?
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pengerusi baru mat lena jugak ke |
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kalau ada masa bacalah
flashback skit
how malaysians regardless of race really worked hard to make it a success. It was a pride back then
The Saga’s popularity had resulted in a long waiting period. At the same time, rumours began circulating that the Proton was ‘underpowered’ and will overheat when driving up Genting Highlands. Gurch was a feisty man and he will not tolerate such baseless allegations against his products.
In typical Gurch fashion, he had to tear the critics apart in a big way. Gurch once again organised another road show called ‘Sagathon,’ this time inviting customers who had already paid their deposits but were still waiting for their cars.
According to this story by our friends at Motor Trader, one sceptical owner brought along a big jerry can of water, just in case he needed it should the car really overheats on the way up Genting Highlands. Gurch told him "OK, we will meet you up there and drink the water together."
Sagathon served two objectives – placating customers who had to wait a long time to receive their cars, as well as answering concerns from the buyers regarding the Proton’s durability.
Two Sagathon events were held, driving up two of Malaysia’s most popular highland resorts – one group driving from Kuantan to Genting Highlands and another from Ipoh to Cameron Highlands. Needless to say, none of the 200 plus Proton cars had any problems driving up either mountains
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bukan tak pernah berlaku...cuma kita tak tahu dan tak ada lagi pada ketika itu
Within just six months after its launch in the UK in March 1989, Proton had already sold 5,000 cars – a figure which took Hyundai 1.5 years to achieve in the UK. By 1992, Proton was the fastest growing brand in the UK and many British businesses were interested to sign up with Proton Cars UK to be a Proton dealer. At this point, Proton was already outselling Hyundai and the Volkswagen-owned Seat.
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Edited by cabalero at 1-4-2016 11:36 AM
tak kisah la apa orang kita nak kata pasal proton
mereka berhak utk kritik dan boikot
tapi mereka pun harus ingat usaha proton ni bukan usaha seorang individu tapi usaha bersama rakyat malaysia pada ketika itu dalam percubaan membangunkan industri kereta kita sendiri
biarlah nanti akan sampai ketikanya proton akan ditutup dan gagal at least we have tried and given our best bak kata omputeh
better die trying than doing nothing
terima kasih kpd org2 lama yg telah menumbang tenaga semasa permulaan proton mungkin ada sesetengahnya sudah tiada lagi
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cabalero replied at 1-4-2016 11:14 AM
List of countries with automotive industries
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Automotive_industry_ ...
Kita produce tak pernah untong
Kenapa ek?
Care to explain |
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proton sebenarnya bagus...tetapi di sebabkan campur tangan politik melayu...jadi hancur...government has no business in business...
vendor2 ramai kroni, jack up prices for auto parts,,,
sama juga dgn MAS...
pendek kata, melayu ni tak boleh jadi rakan niaga..nak menipu aje kerjanya, kopiah pakai dua tiga lapis di kepala |
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utk elak proton x dapat bailout gomen, tun undur.
syg lagi tun kat 12k pekerja proton. |
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Edited by cabalero at 1-4-2016 02:56 PM
tak pernah untong ? hahahaha
agak2 la kut ye kalau tak suke pun
Silver lining for Proton despite economic gloom
Published 20 Nov 2001, 5:56 am
(AFP) The outlook for national car maker Proton remainsbullish despite the economic gloom after it turned in stronger-than-expectedinterim results, analysts said today.
Perusahaan Otomobil Nasional Bhd (Proton) late Mondayannounced a six-fold increase in its net profit to RM382.812 million for thesix months to September, from RM54.335 million in the same period last year.
This was on the back of a 40 percent year-on-year rise insales to 5.297 billion ringgit. Its earnings per share surged to 0.70 ringgitfrom 0.10 rinngit in the same period last year.
The carmaker attributed the improved results to higherdomestic sales in the second quarter.
Proton's impressive showing amid difficult times boosted its shares whichclosed morning trade Tuesday up 0.40 ringgit at 6.30.
An auto analyst with a foreign brokerage said Proton'sresults were 85 percent above his expectations and some 43 percent above marketconsensus.
"The results were very good. We thought there could bea positive surprise in the earnings compared to our rather conservative forecastbut this has really exceeded our expectations," he said.
Bright prospects
The analyst said sales of Proton cars were up some 16-20percent year-on-year and attributed this to a full six months of higher sellingprices for the Iswara and Wira models.
"It was also the impact from the favourable ringgit andyen exchange rate and some cost-cutting measures by Proton," he said.
The analyst said Proton was not likely to repeat its strongfirst half-year results in the second half of the 2002 financial year as saleswere likely to slide amid the economic downturn.
But he said Proton's prospects were bright despite theeconomic gloom.
"Going forward, (the outlook is) even better for Protonwith its new engines and new models," he added.
The analyst said he has revised upwards his 2002 forecast toa net profit of RM612 million, with 2003 net profit estimated at RM760 million. Proton said today demand for its cars in the lower pricesegment was expected to stay firm and that results for the rest of thefinancial year ending March 2002 would remain "favourable".
"Although the economic outlook for the next six monthsis expected to weaken, the demand for Proton cars in the lower end segment andWaja is expected to remain firm for the rest of the financial year," itsaid in a statement. "This is expected to contribute favourably to thecompany's results."
More than 65 percent of cars sold in Malaysia today areProton, partly because of high tariffs on imported cars, but this tariffprotection will largely disappear under the ASEAN Free Trade Area (AFTA) by2005.
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Ramai yg mudah gelap mata bila business maju duit byk masuk...
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bangcak replied at 1-4-2016 08:27 AM
mungkin turun kot?
sbb nak buktikan poton jd murah bila madey tadak
Kalau turun. Nak try angkat iriz. Haha. Tp mcm tak berbaloi je |
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eh bang peyno taknak beri sepatah dua kata ke? 
ke tengah busy teropong forest city tu  |
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ralat jugak walau den tak pakai proton still support our own pride...org 2 indon apa tau |
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bagus la dia takde. dia ade pun takde bawak perubahan ape pun. proton mesti buat macam mas. staff terlalu ramai. model segmentation takde. hire outsider yang boleh ubah company. plus singkirkan parasit yang menyedut duit dari proton. |
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telling as it is
National car company at its lowest ebb, looks to Suzuki for change in fortune
NEXT Tuesday, Proton will be 30 years old. For most car makers, it’s a day of celebration, signifying progress made during its time in existence.
For Proton, it will be that but also a lot of reflection. Part of it will look at how Proton has produced 4 million cars but at the same time, production has been languishing way below its optimum capacity.
It will look at the successes it has had with some models and the failures of others.
But more importantly, for chairman Tun Dr Mahathir Mohamad and CEO Datuk Abdul Harith Abdullah, it’s about the future of the struggling national car company.
“It’s been a difficult journey for us. It’s been rocky and smooth at different times,” says Harith.
The disparate fortunes of Proton of the past has brought the company to almost its lowest ebb in its three-decade history.
Having lost its number one rank to rival Perodua, Proton’s market share of the auto industry has steadily slipped to about 17% of the industry, a pale shadow of its past when one of every two cars sold was a Proton.
Sales have slipped so much that in April, Proton for the first time found itself ranked fourth in the best seller list, trailing behind Perodua, Toyota and Honda. It jumped back to its second position in May after the hiccups of the GST implementation was smoothen out.
Both Dr Mahathir and Harith did not point figures at others for the predicament Proton is in. Yes, there could be have been more help from the Government and the National Automotive Policy could have been more favourable to allow Proton to beef up its business before allowing competition to flourish.
But both chairman and CEO says help starts with itself, and Dr Mahathir is cognisant of its problems.
“Currently, we are not doing so well, for various reasons. But that is what normally happens to automotive companies. Even the biggest automotive companies go through a period of downturn, then they will recover,” he says.
The recovery plan has been drawn up and the collaboration it will enter into with Suzuki is a big part of that. The dealer network will be streamlined by the end of the year and vendors will need better financial strength. Proton will also introduce three new models next year.
Dealing with perception
One of the biggest problems Proton is grappling with is perception. The quality of the cars it makes is questioned by many these days to a point the company is painfully aware of making sure that does not become the talking point with the new models it will launch.
“People don’t forget. Bad things they don’t forget. Good things they forget,” says Dr Mahathir.
“This perception is the problem. I don’t know what else to do. We give good car, good price. Better car than other cars.”
Dr Mahathir says part of that problem was its own doing. One example is the Preve, where the car was launched before the car was fully ready, resulting in a litany of complaints from buyers. He feels that sales of the Iriz is also affected by perception even though the car is packed with safety and electronic features comparable with what other manufacturers are installing in their cars.
But that Proton says is the past as the company is taking such issues much more seriously. Dr Mahathir, who is very much hands on with the Proton, says there are quality stations today where the car is checked throughout the assembly process at many intervals. If parts or assembly doesn’t meet quality standards, it’s sent back for rectifying.
In the past, just one out of 40 cars were tested once it was out of the assembly plant. Today, all cars are tested and driven to check on the quality of the finished product.
Getting quality up to mark is important for Proton given the three new models it will launch next year.
The first will be the new Perdana that will be sold to the public. “We will have a lot of new models next year, up to three,” says Harith.
Filling up capacity
The new models in just part of Proton’s plans to increase production capacity. The company produced around 120,000 cars last year but capacity at its plants in Shah Alam and Tanjung Malim is 370,000 units.
“We need to fill that up otherwise cost will become very high,” says Harith.
“Filling up our current capacity in the next 3-5 years is a must. The total number people directly related to Proton is 77,000. We have to do everything within our ability to be successful.”
Proton is banking on the new models to be sales winners that can boost production, and profitability. But it’s also aware that the best sales year it ever had was around 250,000 cars that won’t be enough to fill up its capacity.
That where the collaboration with Suzuki comes in. The idea is for between 60,000 and 100,000 Suzuki cars to be manufactured by Proton, and exports will be part of that deal. Proton is looking at increasing exports of its cars to South-East Asia.
Proton and Suzuki proposed its strategic collaboration and partnership with Suzuki last month where the deal would encompass four main areas, which are products, technology, people and market.
The collaboration would allow Proton to gain access to the models, platforms, power train and automotive technology of Suzuki.
“Suzuki is not small. They produce 3 million cars a year and have been number three in Japan for seven consecutive years, after Toyota and Honda. They have chosen a different path, going into developing countries instead of developed countries. They are big in India producing 1.2 million cars and 800,000 cars in Japan,” says Harith.
“To be successful, you must have a high level of cost effectiveness and this is what we want to learn. This is part of the journey for Proton to decide where it wants to be.”
The decision to find a strategic collaboration partner is also a necessity for Proton as it was during its partnership with Mitsubishi that it found its greatest success.
It was hugely profitable during that time but decided to veer away from that business model to venture on its own, designing and producing its own cars.
But going solo has not brought riches to Proton and seeing how rival Perodua has flourished with its collaboration with Daihatsu made Proton realise that having a partner is important in future business plan.
Proton will however chart its own course in parallel with its deal with Suzuki. It will still design and make its own cars and have a range of cars that its will produce with Suzuki. Suzuki will assist in building a small car for Proton that it can use to penetrate and snatch market share from Perodua.
But Proton is aware that will take time, if it can do so. There is no chest thumping declarations of overtaking Perodua, as Harith says that just having the same 30% market share as Perodua is success enough.
“Put pride aside. That can come later,” he says. The collaboration is seen to also help rebuild customer confidence in Proton.
Dealing with its financials
Proton’s 30 years has seen the company develop a huge domestic eco-system for the auto industry. In the past 20 years, it says investments have totalled RM20bil and has grown the dealer and vendor network in the country.
But its poor sales have brought cracks to some parts of its linkages with the industry that it needs to fix.
The first is the dealer network. Harith says there are around 400 dealers right now and Proton really needs about half of that.
Furthermore, it wants its dealers to modernise and establish more 3S centres that not only sell cars but stock spare parts and services its automobiles.
What it wants most out of its dealers and vendors is financial independence.
“We have 400 dealers and that doesn’t work. There are no economies of scale for the system to work. There are even problems within the vendor system. In order for Proton to compete, our supply system has to meet the highest requirements,” he says.
“Dealers must have money to buy the cars from Proton. We are not a bank and we can’t loan you the money to sell our cars. We have to focus on model development and these two years we are spending RM2bil on model development.”
Cash is tight at Proton as the company isn’t really concentrating on making a profit now. Cashflow is more important than the bottomline at the moment and Harith says Proton has enough cash coming in to run its own business and develop its own cars.
“Obviously you cannot depart from making a profit. Today, cash is king and the most important thing is cash instead of profit. It’s about survival.
“For shareholders, it is about the long-term business sustainability.” There is no issue about losing money today when there is long-term viability, he says.
What is hurting also is the business environment.
Manufacturers are engaged in heavy discounting of cars to move stock plus bank approvals for auto loans is not helping Proton as about four out of 10 loans are approved by financial institutions.
The weak ringgit has hit its vendors as 50% of its suppliers are exposed to the US dollar.
Harith doesn’t mince his words about the challenges ahead for Proton. What it has now is a partner and new cars to introduce.
“Now its about executing our plans. Time is not with us. We should have done this five years ago,” he says.
http://www.thestar.com.my/busine ... fight-for-survival/ |
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Post time 1-4-2016 11:10 AM
