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[Tempatan] Pengharaman vape menjatuhkan perniagaan Melayu

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Post time 30-10-2015 10:01 AM | Show all posts
Company rokok dah start rasa tergugat la nie....prrrthhhhhhhh
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Post time 30-10-2015 10:01 AM | Show all posts
Edited by cabalero at 30-10-2015 10:02 AM

ahh

everything happen for a reason kata mat saleh

ye la tobacco company bayar tax, tinggi pulak tu

dgn terpaksa compete dgn rokok seludup lagi

dan sekarang ni vape pulak masuk kacau daun menyesakkan lagi dada tobacco company yg sudah semakin semput

dah la korang tak bayar cukai senang2 nak rampas market share kitaorang

menarik jugak tengok industri tobacco vs industri vape ni

siapa yang akan eliminate siapa

sanggup ka pengusaha-pengusaha vape bayar cukai yang tinggi sama seperti tobacco company ?

dan kalau dah kena cukai yang tinggi apakah pengusaha2 vape akan tetap maintain dgn harga sedia ada atau terpaksa henjut jugak naik
utk memastikan margin keuntungan sebelum ini kekal ?

dan bagaimana pula jika kerajaan memang berhasrat to ban vape completely regardless kesanggupan pengusaha2 vape utk membayar cukai ?





PETALING JAYA: A cloud of water vapour has descended upon the tobacco industry. High taxes, illicit trade, and now the growth in the use of electronic ciga-rettes – or vaping – has squeezed Malaysian tobacco companies into a tight corner. The companies are losing their grip on the smoking pop-ulation, and retail investors are pulling out of tobacco-related stocks.

Although e-cigarettes have been available in the country since 2009, vaping has seen a surge in popularity in the past year. Initially, it caught on as a means to quit cigarette smoking but more recently, it has become a recreational pursuit. “Vaping could possibly change how the tobacco indus-try works and it cannot overlook it. Judging by the efforts taken by some parties to dispel vaping as something negative, it really is a threat. However, the tobacco companies might not be ready to say anything about it yet until regulations are in place,” says an industry source.

“The tobacco players might also compare vaping to the shisha trend that was quite prevalent a few years ago but did not make a dent in sales. But they forget one thing – unlike shisha, vaping is meant to make you quit smoking,” he adds. British American Tobacco Malaysia Bhd’s (BAT Malaysia) shares have dropped 14% over the last year, corresponding with the vaping boom. While BAT Malaysia’s quar-terly financial report makes no mention of vaping, Philip Morris, which is not listed in Malaysia, has acknowledged its impact on the industry, which is already struggling with illicit trade and high taxes.

In fact, BAT Malaysia’s parent company, British American Tobacco (BAT) is said to be considering entering the vape market as part of its harm-re-duction initiative. It makes more sense to follow customers’ changing taste than to try and woo new smokers, says the source.“This is a potential money maker for tobacco companies, and at the same time it helps with their public image. Unlike illicit cigarettes, this can be turned into a positive for the industry,” he says. The problem is how does one enter a market that is not yet regulated? “For these companies to come to a decision [to enter the vape market], they need to quantify the competition, but they cannot do it as there are no official figures out there,” says TA Securities analyst Ahmad Faris.

Philip Morris Malaysian and Singapore managing director Goh Shea Lih acknowledges vaping as a safer alternative, but says it is too soon to decide on a business strategy. “We will need to study the regulations introduced by the government before we evaluate our business options. However, we commend the gov-ernment for taking the initiative to examine e-cigarettes.

“These products are used by a large number of consumers around the world and are con-sidered by many health experts as potentially a less harmful alternative to cigarettes. There-fore, we believe they should be appropriately regulated and restricted to use by adult smokers,” she says. This is an excerpt of an article first published in the Aug 29-Sept 4, 2015 issue of Focus Malaysia.

Visit www.focusmalaysia.my - See more at: http://www.theantdaily.com/Main/ ... thash.e36FZq1W.dpuf



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Post time 30-10-2015 10:07 AM | Show all posts
Jagendas replied at 30-10-2015 09:55 AM
BAT dah goyang
pasal tu la nanti diaorg akan kuarkan vape jugak.
then akan kenakan tax

kilang BAT sudah mau tutup........

boleh hantar itu ahmoi vietnam & myanmar balik kampung
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Post time 30-10-2015 10:10 AM | Show all posts
cabalero replied at 30-10-2015 10:01 AM
ahh

everything happen for a reason kata mat saleh



Philip Morris Malaysian and Singapore managing director Goh Shea Lih acknowledges vaping as a safer alternative, but says it is too soon to decide on a business strategy. “We will need to study the regulations introduced by the government before we evaluate our business options. However, we commend the government for taking the initiative to examine e-cigarettes.


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Post time 30-10-2015 10:14 AM | Show all posts
Acong replied at 30-10-2015 10:07 AM
kilang BAT sudah mau tutup........

boleh hantar itu ahmoi vietnam & myanmar balik kampung

mmg laa
skarang saingan dah byk
vape + rokok john and the gang

mmg jahanam la market BAT

ura2 diaorg nk release flavour vape
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Post time 30-10-2015 10:20 AM | Show all posts
cabalero replied at 30-10-2015 10:01 AM
ahh

everything happen for a reason kata mat saleh

Bila dah dicukaikan aku rasa makin ramai akan kembali kepada rokok...
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Post time 30-10-2015 10:21 AM | Show all posts
knp yg hisap vape ni majoriti melayu...aku xpernah nampak pon cina ngan india hisap vape ni...yg byk niaga vape pon semua melayu
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Post time 30-10-2015 10:25 AM | Show all posts

kalau betul2 paham it is not about health actually

kalau betul usul utk ban disebabkan kesihatan dah lama dah syarikat2 rokok di malaysia ni gulung tikar dan blah ke negara lain

this is turf war

isu dia vape telah mengancam industri rokok

syarikat2 rokok bayar sin tax yang tinggi tapi vape tak bayar apa2 pun

mana boleh jadi mcm ni

tu sebab saya tanya sanggup ke pengusaha2 vape bayar sin tax yang sama tinggi dgn syarikat2 rokok ini dan juga lain2 soalan yang berkaitan






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Post time 30-10-2015 10:25 AM | Show all posts
kemudian show off vape vapor ribu riban
bukan theyol still inhale dan exhale smoke?
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Post time 30-10-2015 10:28 AM | Show all posts
JohnPuteh replied at 30-10-2015 10:20 AM
Bila dah dicukaikan aku rasa makin ramai akan kembali kepada rokok...

saya pun rasa begitu juga

of course syarikat2 rokok mau cukai yang sama tinggi dikenakan kpd pengusaha2 vape ni

dah tentu harga vape akan naik tahap berganda
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Post time 30-10-2015 10:28 AM | Show all posts
Lahh... sikit2 nak protect... dah tau benda tu akan ada potensi untuk diharamkan.. cari la barang lain pulak untuk dijual.... takdenya tak hidup kalau tak  dapat jual vape pun...


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Post time 30-10-2015 10:30 AM | Show all posts
seBAB DI HARAMKAN VAPE??? SEBAB ROKOK X LAKU.... . KILANG ROKOK AKAN BANKRAP....
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Post time 30-10-2015 10:33 AM | Show all posts
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ari tu majlis fatwa dah keluar fatwa haram


KUALA LUMPUR, Oct 20, 2015:

Datuk Irmohizam Ibrahim (BN-Kuala Selangor) has suggested for the government to temporarily halt the importing of e-cigarettes, or vape, into the country.
Irmohizam said more research was needed especially on the contents that was easily available.

Although the World Health Organisation (WHO) said that electronic cigarettes were not as dangerous as traditional cigarettes, the contents of nicotine in vape could not be questioned.

“Poison is poison and if vape is becoming a trend, it is feared that the public image of youth could be damaged because of vaping.

“Imagine if schoolchildren also start to vape and pretend to ‘smoke’.

“I am sure that we don’t want to see school students displaying acts like gangsters, when in fact electronic cigarettes are meant to help those who want to quit the smoking habit. “I urge that the government re-analyse all electronic cigarette devices and stop the import of vape to Malaysia,” he said when debating the Allied Health Professional’s Bill 2015 in Parliament today





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Post time 30-10-2015 10:35 AM | Show all posts

Tau takpe...1000 like
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Post time 30-10-2015 10:36 AM | Show all posts
duquesne replied at 30-10-2015 10:28 AM
Lahh... sikit2 nak protect... dah tau benda tu akan ada potensi untuk diharamkan.. cari la barang la ...

sebab ianya sangat menguntungkan

thriving business

RM50K a month untuk seorang pengusaha vape kecil-kecilan memang lumayan la

http://mforum2.cari.com.my/portal.php?mod=view&aid=22589




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Post time 30-10-2015 10:37 AM | Show all posts
Jagendas replied at 30-10-2015 10:14 AM
mmg laa
skarang saingan dah byk
vape + rokok john and the gang

ko rasa berapa harga flavour BAT?
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Post time 30-10-2015 10:39 AM | Show all posts

belum tentu lagi

bagaimana pula jika syarikat2 rokok bantah dan tetap mahukan kerajaan ban industri vape ini ?

ataupun kalau dicukai sanggup ke pengusaha2 vape bayar sin tax yg sama tinggi nilainya sptmana yg dikenakan terhadap syarikat2 rokok ?

banyak lagi persoalan
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Post time 30-10-2015 10:40 AM | Show all posts
lee_sakura replied at 30-10-2015 10:21 AM
knp yg hisap vape ni majoriti melayu...aku xpernah nampak pon cina ngan india hisap vape ni...yg byk ...

ko kat belah mana ek? kat kl & selangor ni banyak je vapers cina n india....dan banyak gak cina yg own kedai vape ni...of coz la melayu lagi ramai...

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Post time 30-10-2015 10:40 AM | Show all posts

vapers dan vape ibarat baby dan puting kosong ----- berpisah tiada.


celaka sangat vapers ynag kat tempat2 awam berkepuol asap keluar melayang ke orang2 keliling .... kalau nak vapingsekadar utk lepas gianmerokok .. gohed lah ... ini vaping sebab trending ...... terleboh2 pulak ..

tapi.. takyah haramkan .. just haramkan kat tempat2 awam sebab asap yg berkepol tu mmg merimaskan .....


kerajaan punnn  .....  
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Post time 30-10-2015 10:41 AM | Show all posts
Jagendas replied at 30-10-2015 10:14 AM
mmg laa
skarang saingan dah byk
vape + rokok john and the gang

ada seru nama aku ke tadi
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