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[Tempatan] Jais serah semula Bible disaksikan Sultan Selangor

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Post time 14-11-2014 03:14 PM | Show all posts
atira posted on 14-11-2014 03:08 PM
kejadahnye nak tunggu org tu beromen baru nak tangkap..
sebelum beromen la kasi tangkap...
perve ...

ang nak tangkap siapa

nak tangkap masa baru wechat ka
masa dating ka

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Post time 14-11-2014 03:15 PM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
I nak tunggu derang meroyan...
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Post time 14-11-2014 03:15 PM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
namirulmukminin posted on 14-11-2014 03:00 PM
Bio le org melayu nak baca bible pon... kalu dah iman tu kukuh, tak sesatnye.. Lagi mudah nak berhuj ...

Saya tak kisah kristian nak melayukan bible mereka...cetak berjuta nafkah edarkan disekolah2 pun lantaklah...tapi bila kalimah Allah digunakan...itu yg saya bantah..tuhan ada, yg maha besar ada, pencipta ada ganti jesus...kenapa tetap nak guna nama Allah jugak..apa motif mereka?
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Post time 14-11-2014 03:15 PM | Show all posts
gamba ...bagi djek lagi bengkek


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Post time 14-11-2014 03:23 PM | Show all posts
Anak_Nogori posted on 14-11-2014 03:15 PM
Saya tak kisah kristian nak melayukan bible mereka...cetak berjuta nafkah edarkan disekolah2 pun l ...

Dalam Perjanjian Lama aku rasa takdak masalah... sebab Allah masih disifatkan Allah tanpa disekutukan... Cuma dalam Perjanjian Baru tu je bila dah timbul fahaman Jesus si anak tuhan... Yang tu yang start haru biru tu...
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Post time 14-11-2014 03:25 PM | Show all posts
Anak_Nogori posted on 14-11-2014 03:15 PM
Saya tak kisah kristian nak melayukan bible mereka...cetak berjuta nafkah edarkan disekolah2 pun l ...

kristian betul pun ada rasa malu
bila kitab sendiri jatuh taraf,

jadi kitab klon, ciplak

dah la tak original kandungannya,
kantoi dirampas orang agama lain pulak

yang kita hairan,
liberal wannabe perasan urban
pulak yang terlebih seronok



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Post time 14-11-2014 03:29 PM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
namirulmukminin posted on 14-11-2014 03:23 PM
Dalam Perjanjian Lama aku rasa takdak masalah... sebab Allah masih disifatkan Allah tanpa disekutu ...

Berbuih mulut saya tanya pasal motif tu...tak ada yg nak jwp....jd saya beranggapan org kristian ni niat mereka tak baik.
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Post time 14-11-2014 03:30 PM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
Apa rasional dan perkembangan terbaru ye.kedua pihak mana yg menasihati sultan? So , kenapa kita terkejut ? Sebab dlm artikel tu x nampak ulasan lanjut rasional. So, i masih blur blur.
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Post time 14-11-2014 03:33 PM | Show all posts
persatuan macai felda pprt(bak kata TT) sudah mula meroyan
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d'zeck posted on 14-11-2014 03:25 PM
kristian betul pun ada rasa malu
bila kitab sendiri jatuh taraf,


Saya anggap melayu perasan urban tu penganut LGBT dan kebebasan tanpa sempadang..nak tunjuk kununnya mereka liberal lah..
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Post time 14-11-2014 03:34 PM | Show all posts
lama baru paling baru...

berapa banyak versi daaa....

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Bibles seized by Jais returned to Christians but in Sarawak only
Published: 14 November 2014



The Sultan of Selangor witnessing the handing over of the seized Bibles to Chairman of the Association of Churches in Sarawak, Rev Archbishop Datuk Bolly Lapok. Also present was Selangor Menteri Besar Azmin Ali (in blue baju Melayu). – Pic courtesy of Selangor press secretariat, November 14, 2014.

Malay and Iban Bibles seized by the Selangor Islamic Department (Jais) from The Bible Society of Malaysia (BSM) in January were today returned to Christians in Sarawak through the Association of Churches in Sarawak (ACS) in a formal ceremony at the Selangor palace.

They were handed to Sarawak Christians and not to the Peninsular-based BSM as part of the condition that such material was not to be distributed in Selangor, especially among Muslims, a statement from the Selangor Islamic Religious Council (Mais) later said.

Earlier, Selangor Menteri Besar Azmin Ali had tweeted: "An amicable resolution to the issue of the seizure of the Malay language Bibles containing the word Allah."



Along with his tweet, he included a photograph of himself and the Sultan of Selangor, Sultan Sharafuddin Idris Shah, watching a handover ceremony of a copy of a Bible to ACS chairman, Rev Archbishop Datuk Bolly Lapok.
In a statement issued after the 10am ceremony, Mais said that the Selangor Sultan had commanded that the Bibles be returned to the ACS, after the public prosecutor decided not to prosecute any party over the matter.

Mais chairman Datuk Mohamad Adzib Mohd Isa said Jais had referred the case to the Attorney-General on June 19, in accordance with the sultan's decree.

"The public prosecutor has ordered that the disposal of the Bibles containing the word 'Allah' ‎be made in accordance with the law," said Adzib in the statement.

"Thus taking into account the order and the matter has been conveyed to His Royal Highness the Sultan of Selangor to discuss the issue, and after consulting the Council of the Royal Court, Mais was commanded by His Royal Highness to dispose of these Bibles containing the word 'Allah' by returning‎ them to the ACS."

He added that the return of the Bibles were made with strict conditions that they were not to be distributed in Selangor, especially among Muslims, and were only for the Christians in Sarawak to use.

"This settlement is to respect each other's religious beliefs and maintain the sensitivity of various religions in the country.

"In addition to the above, His Royal Highness the Sultan of Selangor expects other faiths to also respect and protect the religious sensitivities of Muslims in the country, especially in the state of Selangor, and hope that the distribution as well as the printing of Bibles that contain the word 'Allah' is no longer done in the state of Selangor, as it is an offence under the Non-Islamic Religious Enactment (Control Development Among Muslims), 1988."

A total of 351 copies of the Malay language Alkitab and the Iban Bible, Bup Kudus, which also contains the word "Allah" were seized from the BSM bookshop in Damansara on January 2.

BSM's then president, Lee Min Choon, and the office manager Sinclair Wong were taken for police questioning and later released.

Jais had said the seizure was done in accordance with the Selangor Non-Islamic Religions Enactment 1988 which prohibits non-Muslims from using the Arabic word for "God".

Jais and the Selangor Islamic Religious Council (Mais) had refused to return the Bibles even after the Attorney-General said there was no basis to charge BSM as the Bibles were not a threat to national security.

The two religious bodies also defied orders by the Pakatan Rakyat-led state government under former menteri besar Tan Sri Khalid Ibrahim to return the Bibles, saying the state administration could not interfere in Jais's and Mais's responsibilities to manage Islamic affairs.

In a statement, Azmin thanked the sultan for his "wisdom and foresight" in resolving the matter and reminded Selangor citizens to respect the status of Islam as the State religion.

"However, as freedom of religion is enshrined in the constitution, extremist sentiments, race baiting and religious fanaticism will not be part of the administration," he said.

He said his administration would pursue "all means possible to enhance and foster communal and religious understanding in Selangor".

Bolly, who is also the Bishop of Kuching, said in a statement later that ACS welcomed the return of the Bibles and thanks the sultan for his intervention.

"It would not have been proper to allow these Bibles to be stored indefinitely or destroyed. In this manner, the Bibles are being delivered to the ACS for distribution in Sarawak," Bolly said.

He said the Bibles would be distributed for use by Christians in Sarawak. – November 14, 2014.

- See more at: http://www.themalaysianinsider.c ... thash.VwqwEOfo.dpuf


apasal bible negeri orang lain nak di rampas???
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Post time 14-11-2014 03:39 PM | Show all posts
freebird posted on 14-11-2014 03:34 PM
apasal bible negeri orang lain nak di rampas???

mesti paderi2 kristian
yang ada prinsip hidup
akan rasa malu
bila tahap agama kristian
setakat ikut sempadan negeri je

nak cari mangsa pun
setakat peribumi dan dayak
yang kurang maklumat je

ciplak nama tuhan
agama lain pulak tu

pfftt




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Post time 14-11-2014 03:41 PM | Show all posts
d'zeck posted on 14-11-2014 03:14 PM
ang nak tangkap siapa

nak tangkap masa baru wechat ka

abih? nak jugak tangkap time depa beromen?


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Post time 14-11-2014 03:41 PM | Show all posts
alesandra posted on 14-11-2014 03:33 PM
persatuan macai felda pprt(bak kata TT) sudah mula meroyan

begitulah nampaknye
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Post time 14-11-2014 03:44 PM | Show all posts
atira posted on 14-11-2014 03:41 PM
abih? nak jugak tangkap time depa beromen?

tangkap sekali mak bapak
ultra liberal perasan urban
pun elok sangat

macam la dia hidup tak akan
mati2

ceh

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Post time 14-11-2014 03:45 PM | Show all posts
atira posted on 14-11-2014 03:41 PM
begitulah nampaknye

ade yg dgn rasionalnya buat2 blur blur
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Post time 14-11-2014 03:46 PM | Show all posts
d'zeck posted on 14-11-2014 03:39 PM
mesti paderi2 kristian
yang ada prinsip hidup
akan rasa malu

so skarang ni ko tengah nak mempertahankan kesucian kristian ka?
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Post time 14-11-2014 03:46 PM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
Alhamdulillah.elohim maha adil kepada semua umatnya..
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Post time 14-11-2014 03:47 PM | Show all posts
alesandra posted on 14-11-2014 03:45 PM
ade yg dgn rasionalnya buat2 blur blur

harap2 JAIS
dah cop dulu kat bible tu :

'Bahan Bacaan Tiruan'

baru pulangkan

pfftt

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