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mashimaru83 posted on 23-3-2013 12:40 PM 
Well, that is your believe. How about other people who is searching for the way of life? Which b ...
Jesus did not say, "I came that you might have religion, and practice it more faithfully," or "I came that you might have religion, and adhere to it more commitedly," or "I came that you might have religion, and define it more dogmatically," or "I came that you might have religion, and defend it more vehemently," or "I came that you might have religion, and thus behave more morally." What Jesus said was, "I came that you might have life, and have it more abundantly" (John 10:10). The life that He came to bring and express within us and through us is His life. "I AM the way, the truth and the life," declared Jesus to His disciples (John 14:6). The apostle John wrote that "He that has the Son has life; he that does not have the Son does not have life" (I John 5:12). "Christ is our life," is the phrase Paul uses in writing to the Colossians (Col. 3:4), for Christianity is not "religion," but the life of Jesus Christ expressed in receptive humanity. 4 When Christ, who is our life, shall appear, then shall ye also appear with him in glory Last edited by Truth.8 on 23-3-2013 12:53 PM
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Biblical usage of the word "religion"
A closer look at the biblical usage of the word "religion" will demonstrate that the word is seldom used with any positive implication, but generally has a negative connotation.
When Paul traveled to Athens he observed an abundance of idols, even an idol to an "unknown god," lest they might have missed any. Paul stands up and declares, "Men of Athens, I observe that you are very religious in all respects" (Acts 17:22). What does Paul mean by referring to their pervasive idolatry as being "religious?" The Greek word that Paul used was deisidaimon, which is derived from two other Greek words: deido, meaning "to fear or respect," and daimon, the word for "demon." What Paul was saying was that he had observed that they had "great fear or respect for demons," and were thus very religious or superstitious. Festus used the same Greek word to pejoratively refer to the Jewish religion, when he explained to King Agrippa that the Jews who brought charges against Paul "had some points of disagreement with him about their own religion" (Acts 25:19).
In his epistle to the Colossians, Paul was confronting the regional religionism of Asia as well as the Judaizing religionism that constantly followed his ministry. He wanted to show the superiority of the gospel of grace in Jesus Christ over all religion. In referring to the moralistic activities that religionists were attempting to impose upon the Christian believers in Colossae, Paul asks, "Why do you submit yourself to decrees, such as 'Do not handle, do not taste, do not touch!'? These are matters which have the appearance of wisdom in self-made religion and self-abasement and severe treatment of the body, but are of no value against fleshly indulgence" (Col. 2:20-23). The word translated "religion" is the Greek word ethelothreskia, which is a combination of two other Greek words: ethelo meaning "will, desire, delight or pleasure," and threskeia meaning "worship or religion." Paul is describing such moralistic religious actions as "will-worship" of "self-made religion;" activities which man imposes upon himself and others, believing that such willed self-effort serves as a benefit before God in moralistic performance. Paul denies the veracity of such thinking, regarding such as mere "self-made religion," and of no benefit against the selfish patterns of fleshly indulgence.
James explains that, "If anyone thinks himself to be religious, and yet does not bridle his tongue but deceives his own heart, this man's religion is worthless" (James 1:26,27). The Greek word that he uses is threskeia, meaning "worship or religion." Misrepresentation of the character of God in our behavior often indicates that we are engaging in "worthless religion." James continues, though, to use threskeia in a positive way when he refers to "pure and undefiled religion" (James 1:27), wherein the worth-ship of God's character is genuinely expressed in practical ministry to orphans and widows, and in the expression of the purity of God's character. In that case genuine Christian worship transpires as we are receptive to the activity of God and express the worth-ship of His character in our behavior.
In light of the predominantly negative inferences of the word "religion" in the New Testament, we should avoid applying this word to Christianity. Last edited by Truth.8 on 23-3-2013 01:04 PM
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Christianity and "world religions"
Failure to differentiate between Christianity and "religion" has caused many to lump Christianity together as just another "religion" in the study of comparative world religions. Their criteria for the consideration of a "religion" is merely sociological, psychological, creedal, liturgical or organizational, all of which are inadequate to consider the radical uniqueness of Christianity.
The story is told of Guatama Buddha, who lived some four hundred years prior to the birth of Jesus Christ. He was dying. Some of his devotees came to Buddha and asked how they should perpetuate his memory. "How should we share with the world the remembrance of you? How shall we memorialize you?" Buddha responded, "Don't bother! It is not me that matters; it is my teaching that should be propagated and adhered to throughout the world."
Does that seem to be self-effacing? Does that sound like a noble ideal that attempts to avoid ego-centricity? "Don't focus on me, just remember my teaching."
Truth.8: I am not Buddhist but I have respect for Gautam for bring good element of moral for humans ....never does he says to worshipped him or he never talk about God or deny God.
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If Jesus had said something like that, it would certainly legitimize much of what we observe all around us today in the so-called "Christian religion." The "Christian religion" that has formed around the teaching of Christianity is involved in the propagation of various understandings of Jesus' teaching as determined by various interpretations of the Bible. Most of those who called themselves "Christians" today seem to think that Jesus advocated the same thing that Buddha is alleged to have uttered. "Don't focus on me, just remember my teaching."
Jesus did not say anything like that! In fact, what Buddha said is contrary to everything Jesus taught, and everything recorded in the New Testament scriptures. Jesus did not say, "Just remember my teaching." Jesus said, "I AM the resurrection and the life" (John 11:25). "I AM the way, the truth and the life" (John 14:6). He did not say, "I will show you the way; I will teach you the truth; I will give you the life." His own indwelling presence is the only way for man to be man as God intended. The reality of His person is the truth of God. The very personal presence of the risen Lord Jesus is the life of the Living God, the ontological essence of everything He came to bring to this world. In Buddhism the person of Buddha may not be of any importance except for historical observation, but in Christianity the living Person of Jesus Christ is the reality of God's presence restored to mankind. |
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Truth.8 posted on 23-3-2013 01:13 PM
If Jesus had said something like that, it would certainly legitimize much of what we observe all ar ...
I'm not sure what you are trying to say in relation to my previous question. Nevertheless, in your point of view, Jesus is the true way of life based on a book called Bible. The question still stand, how can one determine the Bible is the real way of life? Why not the other books? Take an example of a person with multiple books in his hands (The Bible, Al-Quran, Hindu scriptures, etc). Which one he should pick or how can he determine which one is the true way of life?
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mashimaru83 posted on 23-3-2013 02:43 PM
I'm not sure what you are trying to say in relation to my previous question. Nevertheless, in your ... I'm not sure what you are trying to say in relation to my previous question. Nevertheless, in your point of view, Jesus is the true way of life based on a book called Bible. The question still stand, how can one determine the Bible is the real way of life? Why not the other books? Take an example of a person with multiple books in his hands (The Bible, Al-Quran, Hindu scriptures, etc). Which one he should pick or how can he determine which one is the true way of life?
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Truth.8 posted on 24-3-2013 12:56 PM
The Bible is way of life because it stated by Jesus. simple as that. peopels who have multiple boo ...
Truth.8:
The Bible is way of life because it stated by Jesus. simple as that. peopels who have multiple books (holy book) in their hands, can leave their religion and come to Christ and reading the Bible..
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Truth.8 posted on 24-3-2013 12:56 PM
The Bible is way of life because it stated by Jesus. simple as that. peopels who have multiple boo ...
Truth.8:
The Bible is way of life because it stated by Jesus. simple as that. peopels who have multiple books (holy book) in their hands, can leave their religion and come to Christ and reading the Bible..
So the question still stand.
How can one determine the Bible is the real way of life? Why not the other books? Take an example of a person with multiple books in his hands (The Bible, Al-Quran, Hindu scriptures, etc). Which one he should pick or how can he determine which one is the true way of life?
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mashimaru83 posted on 24-3-2013 11:35 PM
Does that mean that before the existence of the Bible there was no way of life? Does that mean that before the existence of the Bible there was no way of life?
Jesus came to prefect it...
all should leave their so c alled religion and accept Jesus and Bible...the way of life
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mashimaru83 posted on 24-3-2013 11:43 PM
Well, previous Prophets never mentioned 'The Bible is way of life'. How then?
So the question ... Well, previous Prophets never mentioned 'The Bible is way of life'. How then?
So the question still stand.
How can one determine the Bible is the real way of life? Why not the other books? Take an example of a person with multiple books in his hands (The Bible, Al-Quran, Hindu scriptures, etc). Which one he should pick or how can he determine which one is the true way of life?
We base on Last Messiah the Jesus....The way of life
like i said ,those books is not relevant to present time....it suit to during that time....is not applicable now...the new book call Bible is for all ....all should leave their faith and accept Jesus...
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Truth.8 posted on 22-3-2013 11:02 PM
the fact remaind that muslims and muslims flight ...
just like how Christians and Christians fight.. buddhist and buddhist fight... hindus and hindus fight..
the fight doesn't have to do with religion. how come you take religion as the means of the fight?
this is a VERY simple fact. FAILURE to understand this simple concept shows that you have a very evil heart that tries to attack other religions. you're biased. 
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oh, dan aku masih menunggu, siapa yang truth.8 refer to bila dia kata :
Since my other topic on Si DIA and agama....was hijacked by satan the devil , I am creating new topic related to the way of life according to my faith. |
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daaan..
posting #4 aku masih tidak di jawab oleh Truth.8. Sedihlah macam ni, Truth.8 asyik lari daripada perbincangan je.  |
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gunblade712 posted on 25-3-2013 10:27 AM
just like how Christians and Christians fight.. buddhist and buddhist fight... hindus and hindus f ...
this muslims and muslims flighting ..killing each other can be seen on frequent basis...thats is religion...
Buddhist teaching was meant for during Gautam times...
Hindus teaching is good during the ancient times since it very old religion...not applicable now....
Islam???u judge urself...or maybe it simple:
- belief
- worship
- charitable giving
- fasting during
- the pilgrimage to Mecca (at least once in a lifetime.
this simple fundemental can be observed than vain worshipped.....
The best of all: Bible and Jesus...THE WAY OF LIFE which suitable for ever and ever until end times
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gunblade712 posted on 25-3-2013 10:29 AM
lol..
kamu menolak agama. kamu menghentam religion. adakah Jesus Christ kamu itu akan mengikti ... orang agnostic macam kamu akan di tolak oleh kesemua agama. dan kalau ambil kira mentality kamu yang cetek dan hati kamu yang kotor, semestinya kesemua agama dan bangsa menolak ka
sila buktikan saya ini agnostic yg menolak bible and jesus???
belit rupanya
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Truth.8 posted on 25-3-2013 10:52 AM
sila buktikan saya ini agnostic yg menolak bible and jesus???
belit rupanya
bila saya cakap kamu menolak bible dan jesus christ? sila bagi bukti. jangan belit.
saya kata, Jesus Christ kamu itu yang akan menolak kamu.
janganlah belit Truth.8. bikin malu je. semua orang nampak kebelitan kau..
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Truth.8 posted on 25-3-2013 10:51 AM
this muslims and muslims flighting ..killing each other can be seen on frequent basis...thats is r ...
Lies.
Jesus sendiri cakap : “I have many more things to say to you, but you cannot bear them now. But when He, the Spirit of truth, comes, He will guide you into all the truth; for He will not speak on His own initiative, but whatever He hears, He will speak; and He will disclose to you what is to come.." (John 16:12-13)
Dalam Bible, Jesus sendiri bagitau ada banyak lagi dia nak ajar tapi pengikutnya ketika itu tak boleh terima. Spirit of Truth akan ajar apa yang Jesus Christ tidak ajak. How can Jesus said he is the way of life when he himself claimed that there are things which he cannot teach during that time?
Btw, in your Bible, Jesus did not say that he is the way of life. The right quoted word was :
"Jesus said to him, “I am the way, and the truth, and the life; no one comes to the Father but through Me. (John 14:6).
Anyone who knows the basic of English can see that Jesus didn't say that he was the way of life, he specifically uses the word "and", to differenciate between the previous statement and the current statement.
How come Truth.8 conclude that Jesus said "I am the way of life"? Hope Truth.8 can elaborate more.
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gunblade712 posted on 25-3-2013 11:19 AM
bila saya cakap kamu menolak bible dan jesus christ? sila bagi bukti. jangan belit.
saya kata, ...
what you mean by agnonatic???please provide more info???
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gunblade712 posted on 25-3-2013 11:29 AM
Lies.
Jesus sendiri cakap : “I have many more things to say to you, but you cannot bear them n ... Lies.
Jesus sendiri cakap : “I have many more things to say to you, but you cannot bear them now. But when He, the Spirit of truth, comes, He will guide you into all the truth; for He will not speak on His own initiative, but whatever He hears, He will speak; and He will disclose to you what is to come.." (John 16:12-13)
Dalam Bible, Jesus sendiri bagitau ada banyak lagi dia nak ajar tapi pengikutnya ketika itu tak boleh terima. Spirit of Truth akan ajar apa yang Jesus Christ tidak ajak. How can Jesus said he is the way of life when he himself claimed that there are things which he cannot teach during that time?
Btw, in your Bible, Jesus did not say that he is the way of life. The right quoted word was :
"Jesus said to him, “I am the way, and the truth, and the life; no one comes to the Father but through Me. (John 14:6).
Anyone who knows the basic of English can see that Jesus didn't say that he was the way of life, he specifically uses the word "and", to differenciate between the previous statement and the current statement.
How come Truth.8 conclude that Jesus said "I am the way of life"? Hope Truth.8 can elaborate more. 
we not talking about spirit of truth rather faith which is THE WAY OF LIFE...
trying twiste like "o you generation of vipers"""
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