Post time 21-2-2022 02:56 PMFrom the mobile phone|Show all posts
Meols faham yg budak2 nie dibawak lari apaknya & diislamkan..in between mak dia carik. Tapi ada crita mak dia ikut boifren & tinggalkan mereka..so meols konfius
Post time 21-2-2022 03:00 PMFrom the mobile phone|Show all posts
atira replied at 21-2-2022 02:49 PM
Loh’s children were taken away from her in 2019 while she was hospitalised with injuries she clai ...
Mula2 masalah keluarga aje. Bapak dia yang bawa budak ni....in the same time budak2 tu tak suka jugak mak dia masa tu sebab dia ada boipren tua. Lepas tu masa anak2 dibawa bapa budak ni, budak2 ni dan bapa tu sekali masuk islam disokong oleh keluarga bapa budak2 ni. Bapa tu masuk penjara sebab dadah, oleh kerana anak2 tu xda sapa jaga...ngo islam yg jaga memandangkan budak2 ni dah muallaf. Masa ni, takda sapa pun berniat larikan budak2 ni dr mak dia sb nazirah tu sendiri yg berhubung dgn mak budak2 ni ttg perihal dimana budak2 ni. Tp mak masa ni banyak alasan tak dapat jumpa anak2 dia....lepastu tup2 dia bawa geng2 peguam tu salahkan pihak maip, nazira dan ngo islam. Masa awal2 mak budak ni ckp tak kisah anak2asuk islam dah kenapa serang jadi pertikaian? Jkm sendiri suruh mak budak ni ambil perintah mahkamah memandangkan anak2 ni bawah JKM as prosedur
Post time 21-2-2022 03:05 PMFrom the mobile phone|Show all posts
atira replied at 21-2-2022 02:49 PM
Loh’s children were taken away from her in 2019 while she was hospitalised with injuries she clai ...
So true tak kesah la bangsa agama apa pun kalau dah nama kaki pukul takkan kita nak biarkan.
What if you were in their place with no help.. dia manusia gak
so glad she got the kids to her. Anak-anak dah besar nanti pandai la dia fikir. For now dorg sendiri nk kat maknya kan..
Post time 21-2-2022 03:07 PMFrom the mobile phone|Show all posts
3chanceno replied at 21-2-2022 02:59 PM
Nazirah ru sapa?
pompuan india yg dah lama masuk islam..
dia la yg jaga kebajikan budak2 ni setelah bapaknya masuk penjara..
nazirah jg la yg cari mak budak2 ni.. bgtahu tentang anak2 nya ..
lepas tu ular tu pi belit nazirah balik
Post time 21-2-2022 03:10 PMFrom the mobile phone|Show all posts
Samerosie replied at 21-2-2022 02:50 PM
I nak tanya you. Kalaulah it is the other way round, si loh ni islam kawin dgn non muslim convert ...
Sy tak pertikaikan sapa2 yg patut jaga budak ni memandangkan isu serupa gini laki bini punya masalah. Sy setuju jika peeintah mahkamah jatuh hak kepada mak, mak lah yg jaga. Kalo jatuh perintah mahkamah jatuh hak pada bapa, bapa lah yg jaga. Kita ikut undang2. Kes ni cuma jadi pertikaian bila si mak loh ni salahkan pihak lain walhal xda sapa pun dr pihak maip, ngo dan nazirah ssendiri salah. Salah laki bini yg jadi mangsa pihak ketiga yg jaga budak2 ni. Xda sapa pun dr pihak ketiga nak perap anak2 tu, sembunyikan dr dia
Post time 21-2-2022 03:10 PMFrom the mobile phone|Show all posts
Punat_button replied at 21-2-2022 02:03 PM
Ada tiktok bertebaran dalam wasssup anak2 nak ikut emak.
So siapa yg putar alam nih?
bagus la anak² dia nak ikut sebab dia memang penjaga yang sah..
yang i tak berkenan, dia ada putar belit juga.. dia cakap tak jumpa anak² dah 3 tahun tapi sebenarnya in between dia ada jumpa anak² tapi anak² tak nak ikut walaupun dia ada court order..
lepas tu bila jumpa balik anak² on 14 feb, again anak² tak nak ikut dan dia setuju letak anak² bawah jagaan jkm konon² tak nak anak² trauma kalau dia paksa.. lepas tu dia merempan jkm tak bagi dia jumpa anak²..
pasal agama, i no comment.. kalau nak tukar balik ke agama hindu pun itu hak dia sebagai penjaga yang sah..
Well, kalau you tak pertikaikan, then I rasa tak patut you argued bapa kandung yg bawa, bapa kandung yg bawa.
For me, kisah yg high profile Indra Ghandi tu, itu bapa dia dah masuk islam baru bawa anak2 masuk islam, pun bertahun2 turun naik mahkamah, takan lah Jabatan Agama Islam leka lagi if an indian man suddenly walks in bawa budak2 bawah umur nak suruh islamkan. Tanya mak mana jawapan senang tak tau tak tau pun boleh diterima. Nak sangat kumpul pahala nak masuk syurga islamkan orang ha sekarang dah terpalit dgn kes personal rumahtangga orang bukan Islam lagi.
Let single mum have kids, but they must remain Muslims, says Penang mufti
Predeep Nambiar -February 20, 2022 11:30 AM
Wan Salim Wan Mohd Noor said reversing the conversion of the three children will muddy the good ties between Hindus and Muslims in the country.
GEORGE TOWN: The mother in the centre of a unilateral conversion case, Loh Siew Hong, should be given custody of her three children but their conversion to Islam must not be reversed, Penang mufti Wan Salim Wan Mohd Noor said today.
He said cancelling the children’s conversion was “impractical” and might “further complicate the situation”, adding that they should remain as Muslims for the good of all.
The mufti was commenting on the call by Indira Gandhi Action Team’s Arun Dorasamy, who is reportedly pushing for the children’s conversion to be cancelled.
“Doing that would only muddy the good ties that the Hindus have with Muslims in the country.
“From an Islamic perspective, one’s faith in Islam cannot be reversed through a court decree, but only if that person voluntarily wants to leave Islam without any pressure from anyone,” he told FMT.
Wan Salim Wan Mohd Noor.
Wan Salim said the authorities should allow her to meet her children as much as they like at venues which are deemed safe, adding that Loh can have her children back home periodically under police monitoring.
“Islam does not prevent family members of different faiths to live under one roof. In fact, they can even share meals together so long as the food is not considered to be haram,” he said.
Wan Salim also proposed that Loh’s children be sent to boarding schools, where their welfare and safety can be taken care of.
“I’m making this proposal, which is best for the children, so that we can solve the mess we are in.
“This way, no parties are taken advantage of and, at the same time, protect the sensitivities of Muslims who believe that hidden hands are pushing to revoke the children’s conversion to Islam.”
Loh’s habeas corpus application to have her children back will be heard in Kuala Lumpur tomorrow where they will be present with her.
Last year, Loh obtained a divorce from her husband and was granted full custody of her children. Police, however, had failed to recover them even after the Kuala Lumpur High Court had ordered them to do so.
Loh discovered recently that her twin daughters, aged 14, and 10-year-old son had been unilaterally converted to Islam by the Perlis religious authorities.
Post time 21-2-2022 03:37 PMFrom the mobile phone|Show all posts
Samerosie replied at 21-2-2022 03:27 PM
Well, kalau you tak pertikaikan, then I rasa tak patut you argued bapa kandung yg bawa, bapa kandu ...
Ya sy tak pertikaikan sama sekali dan masih berpendirian hal ni cuma masalah rumahtangga. Tindakan maip pun dah betul dan memang derang ikut undang2 pun. Dr maza sendiri pun cakap, jika anak2 ni terus nak anut islam...kita cuba pertahankan ikut undang2. Itu adalah tanggungjawab institusi agama sis. Kenapa kita pertikaikan pegangan institusi tu pula? Let them be..kalau kalah, kalah la...kalau menang alhamdulillah..kita patuh undang2. Ada beberapa dah kes serupa gini masuk court, tp tak heboh gini..ada kalah ada jugak menang. Yg kalah dulu, akhirnya anak2 tu tetap jugak masuk islam lepas umo 18 tahun. Its all about time aje..
Post time 21-2-2022 03:43 PMFrom the mobile phone|Show all posts
LoveSungmin replied at 21-2-2022 03:10 PM
bagus la anak² dia nak ikut sebab dia memang penjaga yang sah..
yang i tak berkenan, dia ada put ...
Tenkiu summary crita nie..
Meols ada terbaca mcm yg uols tuliskan.
Awat dia tukar stori macam2 bila dia sendiri yg izinkan budak2 tinggal situ buat sementara? Tapi hak penjagaan anak2 dah pada dia, so dia bolehlah stop nak buruk2 orang lain or Muslim.
Post time 21-2-2022 03:43 PMFrom the mobile phone|Show all posts
So emak nya nanti boleh tukarkan semula la kan agama anak2 dia kalau anak2 tu mau kan
Pastu bila cukup umur baru la anak2 tu pilih semula nk masuk agama apa kan
Kesian juga kalau kena paksa2 stay dalam agama yg hati dorang tak suka
Tak seperti manusia yg born muslim kt msia ni yg mmg No way out cmtu tpksa kekal muslim kalau mau duduk msia
Apa2 pun semoga emak tu jaga anak2 dgn baik la lepas ni
Post time 21-2-2022 02:56 PM
...biarlah depa sendiri buat keputusan...sedih mak dia
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