Sarawak + Iban; saya nak tanya

Muntz · Post time 16-5-2008 09:37 PM

Walaupun sidaknya bukan Melayu... tapi bila sidak refer dirik sidak, mesti madah dirik Melayu. Contohnya, mun sidak nak refer dgn kampung sidak, mesti sidak madah.. "kamek diam di kampung sidak melayu nun".. padahal sidak org Melano bah. Sama macam org Kedayan juak. Di Miri area Bakam sia nang rami org Kedayan. Tapi bila aku kelaka dgn driver mek org ya.. nya pun cerita lah "Mun kitak mok tauk, tanah2 sebelah pantei tok semua tanah org Melayu dolok".. padahal aku tauklah nya refer pada org Kedayan.

Sbb aku rasa... sentimen Islam menyebabkan sidak sik mok jadi part of Dayak, walaupun historically, originally.. yes.

wombat · Post time 16-5-2008 11:09 PM

ic...baruk kamek paham hehehe

pahlawan Iban yg kamek tauk... Rentap

hird · Post time 17-5-2008 06:51 PM

nih apa lari dari pertanyaa saya nih? :@ dah lah saya tak paham lansung kamurang cakap sarawak nih

semalam kamek spent the whole night baca satu blog tentang iban.

otak kamek masuk angin saja.

kamurang, Angus tuh sejenis burung kan? mana satu nama betul Sangalang Burong atau Aki Lang Menacul Nyakai?

nih burung apa nih? helang ke?

yang perhiasan dekat kepala itu, ambil bulu dari angus kan? mana satu nak pakai? angus, Sangalang Burong atau Aki Lang Menacul Nyakai

nanamiri · Post time 17-5-2008 07:34 PM

diaorang semua lupa diri....

maklum lah kan...home town....

hird · Post time 17-5-2008 08:32 PM

kan..........

nanti tunggu, kamek tahun 2038, waktu tuh kamek dah terror sangat bahasa sarawak nih

buDak_gaTaL · Post time 17-5-2008 08:48 PM

dah jadi kebiaasaan reply dlm bhs swak....

just_aku · Post time 18-5-2008 03:20 PM

Originally posted by hird at 12-5-2008 05:45 PM
Terima kasih kerana sudi masuk sini, saya nak tanya soalan pada kawan2 baru saya dekat sini tentang sarawak dan kaum Iban.

1) bila hird seacrh tentang Iban, hird terjumpa kaum Dayak Iban. Day ...

coba cari di library mesti ade... kalo buat assgmnt mesti ade source kan

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just_aku · Post time 18-5-2008 03:22 PM

gawai mcm sik...dak nya sambut pesta kaul...sik penah aku dgr daknya sambut gawai

yixin · Post time 18-5-2008 07:57 PM

..FOR YOU HIRD

..Sori tau xin tak boleh jawap la bahasa iban tu..nak pm tp pm box dah full
..nnt xin minta tolong kawan bagi tau ok...

Muntz · Post time 19-5-2008 12:59 PM

Cakap Sarawak ialah dialek Melayu... jadi sama jer dgn BM.

shalom · Post time 20-5-2008 10:30 PM

saya cadangkan mungkin sr. boleh pergi ke website ni :

http://www.rumahpanjai.com/ruai/modules.php?name=Forums

Bagus juga forum kat situ...banyak ilmu yang boleh diperolehi tentang sejarah, budaya dan asal usul Iban..Cuma kebanyakan artikel dalam bahasa Iban..

Tetpi sr. mungkin boleh minta bantuan forumner kat sana..

Saya ni Iban...tapi Iban celup...so pengetahuan sy tentang bangsa sendiri SAH memang sepoi2 bahasa

hird · Post time 21-5-2008 02:16 PM

terima kasih, hird dah pernah termasuk forum tuh tapi keluar balik sebab langsung tak faham

thank you

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Muntz · Post time 22-5-2008 04:01 AM

Boleh tanya apa.

zul_khaleeda · Post time 22-5-2008 09:56 PM

muntz..

area Bakam ya udah byk banglo org cina...besar gilak..

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Muntz · Post time 27-5-2008 01:09 AM

Yalah... besar2 jak banglo sia. Sian nangga org2 kampung nak tinggal sia..

Baiduri Othman · Post time 27-5-2008 08:09 AM

Yixin, Happy Gawai. Sik masuk Ratu Cantik Gawai tek?

BTW, nak nemu jakok Iban. Testing skill kejap.

veitchac · Post time 31-5-2008 10:40 AM

like muntz n d others hv said

dayak is divided into 2
-land dayak (bidayuh)
-sea dayak (iban)

others r orang ulu like
-kayan
-kenyah
-kelabit
-brawan
-lunbawang
-kiput
-penan

while malay ethnic (politically speaking if u like) is divided into
-malay
-melanau
-kedayan

nak tau psl ibans, look for me or cokelat_rawks..
i've grown up in a longhouse for quite some time ago, so yeah..
been living the life myself

even iban itself is divided into many sub-ethnic groups
-rajang ibans
-batang lemanak iban
-the remungans

iban literally means human just like islam means peace
thus, back then (aeons ago kinda then) as long as you r practising the same custom n ritual, u r consider as iban (read, human) since you n i are pretty normal

from wiki (not that reliable but can give u insight)

Although Ibans generally speak a dialect which is mutually intelligible, they can be divided into different branches which are named after the geographical areas where they reside.

Majority of Ibans who live around the Lundu and Samarahan region are called Sebuyaus.

Ibans who settled in areas in Serian district (places like Kampung Lebor, Kampung Tanah Mawang & others) are called Remuns or Remungan. They are the earliest Iban group to migrate to Sarawak.

Ibans who originated from Sri Aman area are called Balaus.

Ibans who come from Betong, Saratok & parts of Sarikei are called Saribas --->if im not mistaken Rentap himself is from saribas region, my mum from Betong btw but shes half chinese & half iban

The Lubok Antu Ibans are classed by anthropologist as Ulu Ai Ibans.

Ibans from Undup are called Undup Ibans. Their dialect is somewhat a cross between the Ulu Ai dialect & the Balau dialect.

Ibans living in areas from Sarikei to Miri are called Rajang Ibans. They are the majority group of the Iban people. They can be found along the Rajang River, Sibu, Kapit, Belaga, Kanowit, Song, Sarikei, Bintangor, Bintulu and Miri. Their dialect is somewhat similar to the Ulu Ai dialect. ---->my dad is from Rajang

In Kalimantan (Indonesian part of Borneo), Iban people are even more diverse. The Kantu, Air Tabun, Semberuang, Sebaru' , Bugau, Mualang & along with many other groups are classed as "Ibanic people" by anthropologist. They can be related to the Iban either by the dialect they speak or their custom, ritual & their way of life.

when i was lil kid, always heard stories bout the brave Kantu ppl...well thats another story
n we normally refer ibans from different region by their sub-ethnic group-whatever-label-it-is like...

"owhhh, urang ari ni bini dom nyak wai?"
"enti enda salah dinga ku, bini ya urang Remungan tungak ka Serian din..."
"bakani tusut adat deh"
"tuai rumah enggau pengulu meh ngadu ka utai nyak"

different sub-ethnic groups of iban normally hv different "operating procedures" to use in cultural events...thats when meetings between the elders (tuai rumah, tuai adat, penghulu) of different regions take place especially when its about inter-marriage btween ibans of different regions....makes life harder if u ask me

barter system is still widely used, at least in my longhouse cuz money doesnt mean 5hit there, and its located somewhere near daro/matu region...bout 1 hr 30 min boat ride from sibu....that was our second longhouse which was made in 1969, pure ironwood, first longhouse was made earlier but i forgot to ask the elders bout it...my grandpa n his siblings came all the way from batang lemanak way back

skaalo · Post time 31-5-2008 07:33 PM

Waduh..pjg lebar penerangan tok,moga dpt membantu Hird,

Lamak sik nangga pok.
Gawai thn tok?

CoKeLat-RaWkZ · Post time 31-5-2008 11:06 PM

wahhh pok.. penerangan yang bagus ya Veitchac... welll kalo Hird nak tengok lanjut boleh lepak sini: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iban_people

p/s: kalo uols salu panggey org indonesia tu indon, belah my in - laws panggil Bugau... hahahah.. lawak. mostly org rumah panjang my in-laws kawen ngan Bugaus ni... jalan kaki , kira2 satu hari perjalanan sampailah ke indonesia, ke perkampungan Bugau kalo dikira dari rumah panjang derang ni...

Marsyal Yau · Post time 7-6-2008 11:23 PM

rumah panjang tenmpat mak kamek lahir dolok memang dekat ngan sempadan malaysia-kalimantan. mak kamek lahir kat Undup, sri aman. masih ada agi sedara kamek orang kat sebelah sempadan indonesia. mun guna motosilak atau 4WD guna jalan balak, setengah jam rasanya dah limpas sempadan.