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Originally posted by MENJ at 11/27/06 04:17 AM
To all Muslims,
I have been thinking about this for some time and I've decided that I will start a Comparative Religion course focusing on the Semitic religions: Judaism, Christianity and Islam. ...
In my opinion comparative religion should not be taught by only one teacher. Perhaps if you can invite someone, preferably someone of other religion. Because I think comparative religion course should be on the skill of comparing religions. It's about equipping the students with the skills to do the comparison, not persuading them to favor one religion over the other. I'm not accusing that you will persuade your students that way. But you see, if another instructor of different religious background is present, it should in my opinion greatly increase the credibility of the class. And if the teachers can be in the same room teaching about fairly comparing religions professionally, it would be a great example for the students. |
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Originally posted by Truth.8 at 11/27/06 04:21 AM
Does Christians organization seek money? No. My church do not seek any money but only by sincere donation.
yes, I'm not sure about malaysia, but it does happen in the US.
Also, you're talking as if expecting payment for service is a sin. |
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Originally posted by Debmey at 27-11-2006 11:32 PM
I ran many courses but never once charged money.
Many attended and were blessed.
When I have good stuff, I share freely.
I received a Bible KJV from my church in USA in 1999, they did not charge any single cents. infact, i can build a library in my house because i received lots of cd's, cassette and lots of booklets on Biblical teachings. Not even a single cents my church seek for that.
I might be sending small portion of donation since I been receiving it 1998 until now.
That is the beauty I look at my faith because they teach with open heart than money.
Mennj and his gangs Dr Naik seek money to teach islam. |
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Originally posted by BeanDiesel at 28-11-2006 12:36 PM
yes, I'm not sure about malaysia, but it does happen in the US.
Also, you're talking as if expecting payment for service is a sin.
U can check here :
http://www.ucg.org/
http://www.cbcg.org/
http://www.cgi.org/
www.tomorrowsworld.org
not even single money is collected.
u ask whether expecting payment is a sin? is he doing in good faith? that is the question u should ask him?
anyone who does in good faith to uphold God words, they do not need money to collect from public.
why not he ask multi company own by muslims for sponsor?
if menjj comes, he always seek money and promoting is his stupid site here |
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Originally posted by Sephiroth at 28-11-2006 12:24 PM
crap you posted on your website IS crap. .
i hve agreed on this. |
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Originally posted by 13Friday at 28-11-2006 08:26 AM
Menj - the self proclaimed expert on dubious items
menjj posted fake sura 5:51 and trying manipulate that verses. now he going manipulate more peoples to fall in 'bait'
Be warned!!! the Beast is raising!!!!
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let me give you one example.
http://bookstore.joelosteen.com/ProdBlockDetails.aspx?id=1455
that the website of Pastor Joel Osteen. A good speaker, i like him.
You think you can call him to your hometown without paying him at all? Look at the items for sale on his website. You think they are for free? It's 2006 my friend. Things, time etc cost money. And there's nothing wrong with expecting some payment in return for it.
whether MENJ get a sponsor or charge fee to his students, both results in the same thing: him getting paid, and he needs to be paid. What is wrong with that?
By the way, if you read sociology particularly regarding the american continent, you'll discover that Protestantism is among the catalyst of early western capitalism. I'm not saying that capitalism is totally wrong though. But it's something for you to think about. |
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you know what, sometimes it's justified for one to complain about unfair charges. sometimes one is just being cheap. |
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Originally posted by BeanDiesel at 28-11-2006 02:32 PM
let me give you one example.
http://bookstore.joelosteen.com/ProdBlockDetails.aspx?id=1455
that the website of Pastor Joel Osteen. A good speaker, i like him.
You think you can call him to your hometown without paying him at all? Look at the items for sale on his website. You think they are for free? It's 2006 my friend. Things, time etc cost money. And there's nothing wrong with expecting some payment in return for it.
whether MENJ get a sponsor or charge fee to his students, both results in the same thing: him getting paid, and he needs to be paid. What is wrong with that?
By the way, if you read sociology particularly regarding the american continent, you'll discover that Protestantism is among the catalyst of early western capitalism. I'm not saying that capitalism is totally wrong though. But it's something for you to think about.
My twoness faith dont seek money but only by donation,if peoples willing to donate. I also attended a anglican faith recently in big hall. Two of the pastors travel all the way frm United states without charging us any single cents. They distribute free booklet and healings.
Even i am not anglican faith, i taught want to see their healing and talks.
[ Last edited by Truth.8 at 28-11-2006 02:39 PM ] |
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Originally posted by BeanDiesel at 28-11-2006 12:36 PM
yes, I'm not sure about malaysia, but it does happen in the US.
Also, you're talking as if expecting payment for service is a sin.
Haiyyaaa... T8. Bila org dah bagi tau kat luar sana byk yg buat kutipan, dia do pusing kepala, nak pusing cerita. Lantak la kalo dia sorang je yg dpt free. Mati2 dia nak tegakkan benang basah. Hidup2 aku tak percaya mamat ni. |
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Oooppsss.... Aku amik quote dr BeanDiesel tu nak suruh T8 baca la. |
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Thank you brother.
Well these missionaries are being paid for speaking engagements anyway, and its no big deal for them. But when I decide to start a class and charge for a small fee (mind you, those are simply for covering costs, not profit), they come here and start making noises. I think they are afraid that I DO go ahead with this, that is why they are making noises to sabotage the idea.
Not that the classes will involve them anyway.
Wassalam.
- MENJ |
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Originally posted by BeanDiesel at 28-11-2006 12:32 PM
In my opinion comparative religion should not be taught by only one teacher. Perhaps if you can invite someone, preferably someone of other religion. Because I think comparative religion course ...
Well there will be another two instructors who will be conducting the sessions along with me.
Wassalam.
- MENJ |
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MENJ,
Why not join the association of clowns? When religious bigots of Islam are against Interfaith forum what makes you think Comparative Religion would help bond our multi religius society. Do you think by bashing other religions would help the partcipants understand Islam well? You must be joking. Why not call some scholars from other faith too or may be you are afraid you plot would be discovered and it would put Islam in shame? Go play with marbles instead of trying to con others. |
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Originally posted by barney50 at 28-11-2006 04:53 PM
MENJ,
Why not join the association of clowns? When religious bigots of Islam are against Interfaith forum what makes you think Comparative Religion would help bond our multi religius society. Do ...
Dumb Hindus should be seen but not heard.
- MENJ |
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Originally posted by Truth.8 at 28-11-2006 01:13 PM
menjj posted fake sura 5:51 and trying manipulate that verses. now he going manipulate more peoples to fall in 'bait'
can u please show the prove??
what n how did he fake that?? |
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Originally posted by Mr.Rie at 28-11-2006 05:15 PM
can u please show the prove??
what n how did he fake that??
Well he cant prove it because this Liar is lying about it.
- MENJ |
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Originally posted by MENJ at 28-11-2006 05:23 PM
Well he cant prove it because this Liar is lying about it.
- MENJ
haha..
another prove of his stupidity
:lebai: |
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- responded byMENJ:
- Dumb Hindus should be seen but not heard.
- - MENJ
Dumb Muslim like you should not be seen nor heard. |
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Post time 28-11-2006 12:32 PM
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