Hukum Memelihara Angsa dalam islam

Core

Originally posted by sedondon at 22-11-2006 04:38 PM
Rasanyer..........tak mungkinlah, Angsa takde kena mengena dgn malaikat,
Kalau toyota unser lagi lah malaikat tak takut.

lol kelakar betullah, tapi tak baik mempermain2kan tau:no:

Core

agaknya org tu nak makan kot angsa tu tapi takut nak mintak. Jadi kalau cakap cam tu, mungkin nanti tuan punya angsa tu nanti "alah, senang2 pakcik ambik jelah angsa ni", dia pun senyum sampai ke telinga, meraso jugak den daging angso ha, dah lamo den teringin

eiyoei

sedap ke daging angsa ni?

(payah tul nak eja angsa ni...asyik tertulis unser dan answer je...i)

Nape?Tak caye?

mungkin kerna kerja si angsa ni nak menyodol orang jer kerja nyer...
waktu kecik kecik dulu bila kena kejar dek angsa ni kepala rasa kembang semacam

haniman

Originally posted by eiyoei at 23-11-2006 05:49 PM
sedap ke daging angsa ni?

(payah tul nak eja angsa ni...asyik tertulis unser dan answer je...i)

Tak taulah,  tak pernah makan.  Mungkin macam rasa ayam belanda (turkey)  kot,(pun tak pernah rasa.  Telur angsa besar, takut nak makan.

[ Last edited by  haniman at 24-11-2006 09:31 AM ]

tyrande_81

Aku pernah bela angsa, siap main kejar2 dah tangkap peluk dier. Pastu pegang paruh dier sampai dier ngelupur. Suka main2 ngan angsa aku tu.

Mmg tak logik pun bela angsa kat rumah. Nak tau sbb aper...
Sbb angsa ni bukannya mcm kucing, bukannya reti berak setempat. Kalau nak berak pun dia main 'crett' jer ikut sempat dier jer. Kalau kucing ada ler dier berak setempat, korek lubang dan kambus balik. Ok ler bela kucing kat rumah. Bela angsa dalam rumah sorry ler. Skali dier berak atas karpet abiss lah. Rasanya malaikat tak masuk rumah sbb najis angsa merata-rata kot. Kotorr

Buat rumah angsa khas kat luar rumah kita. kami namakan rumah angsa kami AngsaPuri ehehehe. Pastu buat pagar kat sekeliling rumah dia supaya dia tak mengejar anak2 jiran. Tapi bagus lah rumah kami ada Angsa. Dulu seblum angsa ni ader, rumah kami selalu dimasuki biawak la, ular la. Angsa ni binatang yg garang, abis di halau nyer sumer binatang2 kat skeliling. Anak jiran pun dia bleh kejar. Ari tu klakar dier bleh kejar anjing, anjing tu lari ketakutan. Kalau pencuri masuk pun, dia akan bising2 sampai kami terjaga. Tak payah susah2 pasang thief alarm. Skrg ni dua2 angsa kami ni dah mati. Pak aku syg giler kat angsa2 nih, sampai nangis2 tanam angsa.

Eheheh, itulah kisah aku ngan angsa kesayangan aku...

jihah

Haah.. bagus bela angsa ni kn? Mcm pengawal la, tp kena wat kurungan dia la.
Tp xde la bg nama special.. Pasal xpikir nk bg nama umah dia kn??
Byk nama bleh bg : umah angsa, umah itik, umah merpati, umah arnab, umah puyuh..  hehe..

tyrande_81

Originally posted by jihah at 24-11-2006 02:43 PM
Haah.. bagus bela angsa ni kn? Mcm pengawal la, tp kena wat kurungan dia la.
Tp xde la bg nama special.. Pasal xpikir nk bg nama umah dia kn??
Byk nama bleh bg : umah angsa, umah itik, umah merpa ...

Bela pun dua ekor angsa jer. Satu jantan satu betina. Yang jantan tu namanya Abdul. Yg betina nye tu nama Siti. Pastu aku ada sekor kucing namanya Jenab. Selalu Abdul kejar Jenab... ahahahaha.

Abdul ni selalu aku ketuk kepala dia. Jahat giler, ngan bapak aku je dia baik. (Bapak aku rajin beli salad, sayur favourite dier). Sebelum aku bukak je pintu kereta, Abdul ni dah ready nak mematuk aku. Abis sapa2 yg mai rumah aku Abdul ni tunggu kat pintu kereta. Ready nak patuk dan gigit je... eee geram aku. Aku pun jahat gak, selalu bagi Abdul ni naik sheh... Pegang satu kain, acah dia skit, dia serang. Macam matador ngan lembu jantan. Camtu la aku suka buli Abdul... skrg Abdul dan Siti dah mati

Orang Islam takleh bela anjing utk kawal rumah dari pencuri. Baik bela Angsa kat luar rumah, fungsi dia pun sama gak. Akan bising kalau ada pencuri nak masuk rumah tengah2 malam. Kalau angsa gigit, gerenti lebam biru seminggu. Ehehehehe

[ Last edited by  tyrande_81 at 24-11-2006 06:07 PM ]

minahrock

Originally posted by haniman at 24-11-2006 09:21 AM


Tak taulah,  tak pernah makan.  Mungkin macam rasa ayam belanda (turkey)  kot,(pun tak pernah rasa.  Telur angsa besar, takut nak makan.

Angsa sedap di makan. Itu pun bergantung pada kepakaran tukang masaknya. Dagingnya lembut juga, cuma keras sikit dari ayam. Cuma dia tak berbau hanyir macam itik biasa.

Saya tak nampak buruknya bela angsa. Selain dari najisnya ditakuti oleh ular dan biawak. Najisnya juga dianggap sebagai pemati daun lalang. Terutama bagi angsa Perancis.

Bab kotoran, bela mana2 binatang ternakan semua nya kotor, sebab mereka haiwan. mana reti nak jaga kebersihan.

Baguih jugak bela angsa , dapat halau ular dan biawak serta mematikan daun2 lalang. Serta membekalkan protein dari dagingnya.

Kalau tak mahu bela dirumah, belalah di kebun sebagai binatang tambahan selain dari ayam. kambing dan lembu.

tasbih_online

Originally posted by minahrock at 25-11-2006 07:40 AM



Angsa sedap di makan. Itu pun bergantung pada kepakaran tukang masaknya. Dagingnya lembut juga, cuma keras sikit dari ayam. Cuma dia tak berbau hanyir macam itik biasa.

Saya tak nampak bur ...

Rasa2 aku bela angsa tidak menyalahi agama. Bahkan halal dimakan dagingnya. Tetapi mengharamkan binatang yang halal dimakan lagik menyalahi agama.



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Normala17

Originally posted by Leybra at 21-11-2006 11:21 PM
...
Kalau anjing tu logik la sket.. pasal tu binatang haram...

siapa kata anjing tu binatang haram ? :stp:

Leybra

Orait dah edit... harap berpuas hati.

Normala17

Originally posted by Leybra at 26-11-2006 01:09 AM
Orait dah edit... harap berpuas hati.

still salah.

Kalau anjing tu logik la sket.. pasal tu binatang yg haram dipegang ketika basah....

Anjing cuma dikatakan najis, bukan haram. I'm sure you know the difference.

Kesian sungguh ngan anjing. ;)

ibnur

Originally posted by Normala17 at 26-11-2006 06:30 PM


still salah.



Anjing cuma dikatakan najis, bukan haram. I'm sure you know the difference.

Kesian sungguh ngan anjing. ;)

dikatakan najis?  kalau najis, haram ke tidak?

saya rasa ni hadith tak kata najios, cuma suruh samak ajer.  ...  rujukan hadith...


Hadith - Bukhari 3:515, Narrated Abu Huraira  

Allah's Apostle  said, "Whoever keeps a dog, one Qirat of the reward of his good deeds is deducted daily, unless the dog is used for guarding a farm or cattle." Abu Huraira (in another narration) said from the Prophet, "unless it is used for guarding sheep or farms, or for hunting." Narrated Abu Hazim from Abu Huraira: The Prophet  said, "A dog for guarding cattle or for hunting."


Hadith - Bukhari 3:515, Narrated Abu Huraira  

I heard Allah's Apostle  saying; "Angels (of Mercy) do not enter a house wherein there is a dog or a picture of a living creature (a human being or an animal)."


Hadith - Muslim, Narrated 'Aisha  

Gabriel made a promise with Allah's Messenger  to come at a definite hour; that hour came but he did not visit him. And there was in his hand (in the hand of Allah's Apostle) a staff. He threw it from his hand and said: Never has Allah or His messengers (angels) ever broken their promise. Then he cast a glance (and by chance) found a puppy under his cot and said: Aisha, when did this dog enter here ? She said: By Allah, I don't know. He then commanded and it was turned out. Then Gabriel came and Allah's Messenger  said to him: You promised me and I waited for you, but you did not come, whereupon he said: It was the dog in your house which prevented me (to come), for we (angels) do not enter a house in which there is a dog or a picture.



Hadith - Abu Dawood 5084, Narrated Jabi ibn Abdullah, r.a.

The Prophet  said: When you hear the barking of dogs and the braying of asses at night, seek refuge in Allah, for they see which you do not see.


Hadith - Muslim, Narrated Maymunah

One morning Allah's Messenger  was silent with grief. Maymunah said: Allah's Messenger, I find a change in your mood today. Allah's Messenger  said: Gabriel had promised me that he would meet me last night, but he did not meet me. By Allah, he never broke his promises; and Allah's Messenger  spent the day in this sad (mood). Then it occurred to him that there had been a puppy under their cot. He gave an order and it was turned out. He then took some water in his hand and sprinkled it on the place. When it was evening Gabriel met him and he said to him: You promised me that you would meet me the previous night. He said: Yes, but we do not enter a house in which there is a dog or a picture. So the very next morning he commanded the dogs to be killed. He announced that the dog kept for the orchards should also be killed, but he spared the dog used for the protection of extensive fields (or big gardens).


Hadith - Mishkat, Transmitted by Abu Dawud and Darimi

The Prophet  said, "Were dogs not a species of creature I should command that they all be killed; but kill every pure black one." [Muslim, Narrated AbuDharr: "...The black dog is a devil."]


Hadith - Bukhari 4:531, Narrated 'Aisha  

The Prophet  said, "Five kinds of animals are mischief-doers and can be killed even in the Sanctuary: They are the rat, the scorpion, the kite, the crow and the rabid dog."


Hadith - Bukhari 4:538, Narrated Abu Huraira  

Allah's Apostle  said, "A prostitute was forgiven by Allah, because, passing by a panting dog near a well and seeing that the dog was about to die of thirst, she took off her shoe, and tying it with her head-cover she drew out some water for it. So, Allah forgave her because of that."


Hadith - Bukhari 7:384, Narrated Adi bin Hatim  

I asked the Prophet  about the game killed by a Mi'rad (i.e. a sharp-edged piece of wood or a piece of wood provided with a sharp piece of iron used for hunting). He  said, "If the game is killed with its sharp edge, eat of it, but if it is killed with its shaft, with a hit by its broad side then the game is (unlawful to eat) for it has been beaten to death." I asked him about the game killed by a trained hound. He  said, "If the hound catches the game for you, eat of it, for killing the game by the hound, is like its slaughtering. But if you see with your hound or hounds another dog, and you are afraid that it might have shared in hunting the game with your hound and killed it, then you should not eat of it, because you have mentioned Allah's Name on (sending) your hound only, but you have not mentioned it on some other hound."


Hadith - Muwatta 2.36

Yahya related to me from Malik from Abu'z-Zinad from al-Araj from Abu Hurayra that the Messenger of Allah  said, "If a dog drinks from your vessel, wash it seven times."


Sahih Bukhari Volume 3, Book 34, Number 299, Narrated 'Aun bin Abu Juhaifa  

My father bought a slave who practiced the profession of cupping. (My father broke the slave's instruments of cupping). I asked my father why he had done so. He replied, "The Prophet forbade the acceptance of the price of a dog or blood, and also forbade the profession of tattooing, getting tattooed and receiving or giving Riba, (usury), and cursed the picture-makers."

lows^man^lyrics

Originally posted by haniman at 21-11-2006 04:16 PM
Salam semua forumers,

Benda ni dah lama menjadi persoalan kepada saya.

Ada kawan saya kata, bukan sorang tapi dua tiga, jika kita orang islam memelihara angsa di rumah, malaikat tidak masuk k ...

waallah hu'alam..boleh saya tahu nama malaikat yg anda rujuk?setahu saya malaikat Izrail memang tugas dia cabut nyawa tak kira la umah orang tu ada angsa ke tidak..:hatdown:

Normala17

Originally posted by ibnur at 26-11-2006 10:02 PM
dikatakan najis?  kalau najis, haram ke tidak?

haram utk apa ? najis tidak semestinya haram dipegang. (think of how we 'clean' ourselves daily)

Originally posted by ibnur at 26-11-2006 10:02 PM
saya rasa ni hadith tak kata najios, cuma suruh samak ajer.  ...  rujukan hadith...

itu sebab saya kata 'dikatakan' najis sebab saya tak nak 'cari pasal' dengan sesiapa

salam...

ahasyraf80

Anjing haram dimakan dagingnya bukan haram kita menyentuhnya. Cuma wajib kita samak lepas sentuh anjing.

janggutmuda

Originally posted by ahasyraf80 at 27-11-2006 03:29 AM
Anjing haram dimakan dagingnya bukan haram kita menyentuhnya. Cuma wajib kita samak lepas sentuh anjing.

Anjing siapa tu? Anjing kerajaan ker atau anjing Pejabat Agama?

Mungkin anjing peliharaan JAIS atau anjing belaan JAKIM.








lol

janggutmuda

Originally posted by janggutmuda at 27-11-2006 07:54 AM


Anjing siapa tu? Anjing kerajaan ker atau anjing Pejabat Agama?

Mungkin anjing peliharaan JAIS atau anjing belaan JAKIM.

Kalau anjing-anjing tu, memang patut pun kena samak...



lol

snipersnake

ha elok la tuh belalang. sendiri post sendirik quote.nampak sgt kau pakai double nick.
sudah2 la rosakkan thread org lain. org yg merosakkan akidah org lain lebih hina dari khinzir.