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Permurtadan Datuk Azhar Mansor adalah PEMBOHONGAN
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Sepatutnyer Azhar Mansor gunakan sidang media itu utk membersihkan nama baik dia dengan membuat penafian diatas tuduhan tersebut dan mengaku masih Islam. Jawapan beliau hanya mengeruhkan lagi keadaan dan malah menguatkan lagi dakwaan yg beliau telah masuk kristian. Lagi satu, susah sgt ker mengaku "Saya masih Muslim"? |
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Jadi, jika dia dah masuk agama kristian namanya menjadi busuk? kenapa begitu? Kalau masih memeggang kuat dengan agama Islam namanya akan jadi baik? Kenapa pemikiran golongan Muslim begini? |
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Originally posted by barney50 at 9-11-2006 01:16 PM
Jadi, jika dia dah masuk agama kristian namanya menjadi busuk? kenapa begitu? Kalau masih memeggang kuat dengan agama Islam namanya akan jadi baik? Kenapa pemikiran golongan Muslim begini?
tiada kaitan nama nya baik atau tidak....jika dia telah keluar dari agamanya MURTAD dan itu adalah satu dosa yg besar dalam ISLAM....rasanya tak salah kami semua umat islam yang lain memandang serong pada beliau kerana hukum bagi org MURTAD(mengikut hukum Allah) adalah bunuh... |
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By burning_ash: tiada kaitan nama nya baik atau tidak....jika dia telah keluar dari agamanya MURTAD dan itu adalah satu dosa yg besar dalam ISLAM....rasanya tak salah kami semua umat islam yang lain memandang serong pada beliau kerana hukum bagi org MURTAD(mengikut hukum Allah) adalah bunuh...
- Tak kan nak sampai bunuh? Kan bunuh tu berdosa. Setahu saya tak ada hukum bunuh untuk mereka yang murtad dalam al-quran. |
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Originally posted by akuhaus at 6-11-2006 02:05 PM
Daripada menguar-uarkan kemutadan orang adalah lebih baik kita berdoa semuga semua umat Islam sentiasa berada di dalam Keredhaan Allah dan di RahmatiNya. Kasihanilah saudara seugama kita dengan tud ...
Saya setuju...biar Dato Azhar Mansor membuat kenyataan akhbar nanti..atau kalau dia tak nak buat pun bukan hak kita untuk paksa dia. Aku rase tujuan dia tak nak bagi komen ialah sebab dia nie public figure dan golongan nie memang tak boleh nak buat kenyataan sesuka hati. Tengok saja macam Siti dan Dato K...sampai semua orang marah-marah cakap 'benda baik buat ape nak rahsiakan' tapi itu hak dia dan kita kena hormati....golongan ini memang tak boleh buat statement sebarangan sebab akan dijadikan rujukan oleh public. So, dia kena tentukan masa yang sesuai dan betul-betul bersedia untuk menjawab soalan nanti. Aku yakin dia sendiri akan buat press conference.
[ Last edited by rurouni_khairul at 9-11-2006 06:56 PM ] |
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Is that too difficult for him to say "i'm still a muslim" ? If he just keep mum on this...emmm, something not right somewhere. Ususally there will be no problem for a muslim to say he's a muslim...unless |
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We all know that Azhar Mansor teh Malay hero has abandoned Islam. No need to act blur any more please.
Why is menj is surprised he converted to Christianity? There are millions of Muslims all over the world who accept Christ every year, whats so surprising? |
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Originally posted by loona at 9-11-2006 07:42 PM
Is that too difficult for him to say "i'm still a muslim" ? If he just keep mum on this...emmm, something not right somewhere. Ususally there will be no problem for a muslim to say he's a ...
if any muslims ask me " did u murtad" ? I will says "No' and dont listend to rummours, but I will never utter "I am muslim'
i hve many muslims always greet me with salam, but i just greet salam with them in short like .....salam not full and this make some muslims suspect me.
who cares, I am happy with my new faith.
Amen |
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Originally posted by Truth.8 at 9-11-2006 10:31 PM
if any muslims ask me " did u murtad" ? I will says "No' and dont listend to rummours, but I will never utter "I am muslim'
i hve many muslims always greet me with salam ...
and people like you that make Islam looks bad....outside Islam but not inside! |
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Originally posted by hi5 at 10-11-2006 12:16 AM
and people like you that make Islam looks bad....outside Islam but not inside!
islam already bad long time ago since 911 |
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Originally posted by Truth.8 at 10-11-2006 12:28 AM
islam already bad long time ago since 911
Yeah same those who claim Islam outside but not from inside, like you. Nobody gonna hurt you if you're murtad and you're not originally born as Muslim...no big deal. So, go out and say loud that you're Christian.....Don't give Islam a bad name |
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Originally posted by hi5 at 10-11-2006 12:32 AM
Yeah same those who claim Islam outside but not from inside, like you. Nobody gonna hurt you if you're murtad and you're not originally born as Muslim...no big deal. So, go out and say loud tha ...
....but it was the founder who says slay the unbelievers and we have those photo copy of followers now. |
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Originally posted by Truth.8 at 10-11-2006 12:34 AM
....but it was the founder who says slay the unbelievers and we have those photo copy of followers now.
who?...slay?....
[ Last edited by hi5 at 10-11-2006 12:41 AM ] |
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Originally posted by hi5 at 10-11-2006 12:37 AM
who?...slay?....
u mean u do not know which verse says slay the unbelievers whenever u see them? |
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Originally posted by Truth.8 at 10-11-2006 12:34 AM
....but it was the founder who says slay the unbelievers and we have those photo copy of followers now.
Please dont talk nonsense here! Do you like to be slain? If you were muslim before, sure you wouldnt talk like that because every muslim knows that the most slanderous statement on earth. I believe you know nut about islam and the belief, therefore you lie about your past faith |
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Originally posted by loona at 10-11-2006 01:16 AM
Please dont talk nonsense here! Do you like to be slain? If you were muslim before, sure you wouldnt talk like that because every muslim knows that the most slanderous statement on earth. I bel ...
perhaps i can give the faithfreedom link and u can see the list of the verses. see urself whether i makes any slanderous statments or not. u want the link?
anyway the link here :Quran Teaches
[ Last edited by Truth.8 at 10-11-2006 01:22 AM ] |
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Originally posted by Truth.8 at 10-11-2006 01:18 AM
perhaps i can give the faithfreedom link and u can see the list of the verses. see urself whether i makes any slanderous statments or not. u want the link?
Lots of links from Quran and even more from Bible regarding this. But do we really understand the context? Do we simply take the direct meaning and slain innocent life outside our own belief? Do God commands us to do that just because they dont believe on what we believe? Come on....we are educated enough to know the truth, without referering to any hatred links that's purportedly want to steer the chaos among the people using religion as their tool. So sad that you fall into this trap? |
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Originally posted by loona at 10-11-2006 01:32 AM
Lots of links from Quran and even more from Bible regarding this. But do we really understand the context? Do we simply take the direct meaning and slain innocent life outside our own belief? D ...
What T8 did was he using a part of a verse from a particular Sura and paste it in this forum and stating only part of the verse without completing the whole Sura. T8, if you're really a Muslim before you should know that we cannot depend on the Quran alone because it must be cross-refer to the valid Hadith. That particular verse is applicable to the non-believers who waged war against the Muslim and the Muslim must defend themselves in such situation. |
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Originally posted by rurouni_khairul at 10-11-2006 05:25 PM
What T8 did was he using a part of a verse from a particular Sura and paste it in this forum and stating only part of the verse without completing the whole Sura. T8, if you're really a Muslim ...
well rurouni....that is his modus operandi......the longer u r here.....u will know his style.
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Originally posted by rurouni_khairul at 10-11-2006 05:25 PM
What T8 did was he using a part of a verse from a particular Sura and paste it in this forum and stating only part of the verse without completing the whole Sura. T8, if you're really a Muslim ...
T8 has never been a Muslim |
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