Why descendants of Isaac were chosen first?

i212

haa.. debmey... still not answer this.

Debmey

Didn't you muslism claim that Arabs are teh decsndents of Ishmael?

i212

ARABIAN concist of a lot of Tribe and a lot of Religion such as
- Pagan
- Jews
- Christians
- Hanif
etc....

Arabs not mean pagans and pagans not mean ARABS.

See debmey.... you are full of assumption. The narrow minded hatred assumptions.

Debmey

So why did allah allow those rabs to be pagans? Allah's will right?

i212

by Debmey
So why did allah allow those rabs to be pagans? Allah's will right?

Nope... Its their will.
Allah give them Guide.
If they not follow it, its their will. They choose satan way.

Like you and me... We have our will to become what we are now.
Its not what God made us, its what we have Made ourself.
God give us brain(mind) to think, desire to feel and religion to follow.

Debmey

You said allah knows best right? so why did allah let tehm stray and ist still best? Isn't it better if they were faithful all along?

i212

by Debmey
You said allah knows best right? so why did allah let tehm stray and ist still best? Isn't it better if they were faithful all along?

Human have brain to think. If Allah make all human being like Adam, then better He not giving use brain.
Just let us become like Animals, follow what was written for them without thinking.


I give you one real story about me.
While im 17, my mother passed away.
While im 18, my father passed away.
Then I say to myself, Why Allah give me such test. Its so cruel. Then I think back, Allah knows the best.

So... after that I see something,
After my father passed away,
I receive about 10K++ as a gift from Gov because my father is a Policeman.
   From that I can buy computer that cost about 2K++ that time that is  imposible for me to buy it.
  I accepted in one of  Univ. in malaysia and I study there.
From the money, I can buy all kind of stuff that I imposible for me to have it before.
I have monthly income from House rental.
Everybody give a lot of intention to me since that.
So... my life become better..

--- I have another story if you want to hear.. heheheehe

Thats mean what i and some muslim said, ALLAH KNOWS THE BEST.

Debmey

You will rather trade your dad and mon for computer? My goodness!

i212

by Debmey
You will rather trade your dad and mon for computer? My goodness!

Astagfirullah al azim....
How could you think like that.... Its show you are disrecpect, ignorant, narrowminded blind hatred person.

Not surprising i212.  Orang yang tak pernah bersyukur macam tu lah.

Originally posted by Debmey at 19-10-2006 04:30 PM
You will rather trade your dad and mon for computer? My goodness!

See, u dont even know how to be polite.. Show some respect la..

Nick_Perelman

Originally posted by vitruvian_man at 18-10-2006 08:13 AM
Because God do what God thinks best for us.God is the Almighty.God's the Most Wisdom.God  knows the future. Who are we to ask God of every thing He does for an explaination?Must there be every reasonable answer to everything?In fact there're so many unreasonable things in this world that was created by God which even scientists can't explain.Therefore, for this question, you might wanna ask God urself.

In another words there is no explanation. So lets see what we have:

1) Bible version, that explains why it happaned.
2) Much later appears Koran version of same story, but it has no explanation.

So which is better?

Did you mean that it's not God who created the earth?  Or you never believe in God  

I dont believe that God controls everything what is happaning on earth.

Originally posted by vitruvian_man at 18-10-2006 08:13 AM


Because God do what God thinks best for us.God is the Almighty.God's the Most Wisdom.God  knows the future. Who are we to ask God of every thing He does for an explaination?Must there be every reasonable answer to everything?In fact there're so many unreasonable things in this world that was created by God which even scientists can't explain.Therefore, for this question, you might wanna ask God urself.

well, muslims always questioned christian about jesus being god, god is not that weak, and so on and so forth. well like you said. "Who are we to ask God of every thing He does for an explaination?Must there be every reasonable answer to everything?"

Originally posted by i212 at 19-10-2006 04:09 PM

I receive about 10K++ as a gift from Gov because my father is a Policeman.

hmmmmmm........

ussopp

Originally posted by Debmey at 19-10-2006 03:21 PM
So why did allah allow those rabs to be pagans? Allah's will right?

jews also have  pagans among them once...

Debmey

those pagans were judged by God, how it is teh same did not apply among Arabs who were all pagans until Chritsianity came along?

ussopp

Originally posted by Debmey at 19-10-2006 08:04 PM
those pagans were judged by God, how it is teh same did not apply among Arabs who were all pagans until Chritsianity came along?

(1)how come all pagan...???

(2)whether pagan or not it is not important, god didnt say the prophet will always  come from the chosen decendants...

(3)In Al-Quran, it is said many times that Bani Israel is the chosen one, so what is the prob here...?

(4)if there is  prob, it will be how ignorant the jews are...

Debmey

now you say pagan or not is unimportant. so why diod Mohamed want to kill all pagans? why teh double stanbards by allah?

ussopp

anyone ,pagan or not pagan if they threat you or kill you or toture you,, they are sure should be punished...am i wrong?

if they dont,anyone,  pagan or not pagan have no right to kill each other...

Debmey

so what gave Mohamed the right to kill pagans?