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Author: KENNKID

THE EXISTENCE OF GOD FROM ISLAM'S PERSPECTIVE

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Post time 12-7-2006 10:54 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by davetruchemic at 12-7-2006 10:29 PM


BETUL KATA MU ....VERY SORRY ABOUT THAT.....



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Post time 12-7-2006 11:02 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by DivinePonytail at 12-7-2006 10:54 PM



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I DE SAID SORRY OK...DUN ACT LIKE UR A TUAN HAJI HERE
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Post time 12-7-2006 11:49 PM | Show all posts
Tahniah !!!

orang2 macam lu  lar yg akan menjadikan forum cari nih tak ubah seperti mangkuk jamban... :nerd:

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Post time 13-7-2006 01:54 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by davetruchemic at 12-7-2006 11:02 PM


I DE SAID SORRY OK...DUN ACT LIKE UR A TUAN HAJI HERE


sorry tak terima.. just get out from here..
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Post time 13-7-2006 02:11 PM | Show all posts
I wish to share this link for the open minded people without any imposition to agree on the same.



As I read the Noble Qurân almost everyday, I always gain more and more respect to this Wonderful True Religion of GOD.  Humans today had so corrupted the beauty of believing in the One True Living GOD, that they no longer became certain of which path to take.  Humans today are full of confusion and fear because many of them are apart from Islam.  That is why we are having continuous religious and territorial battles and brutal blood shed throughout the world.

What is the Wisdom of Islam?


Islam is a very simple religion.  Islam simply means submitting yourself in peace to the One True Living GOD:
"Then Praise be to Allah, Lord of the heavens and Lord of the earth- Lord and Cherisher of all the worlds!  To Him be Glory throughout the heavens and the earth: and He is Exalted in Power, Full of Wisdom!.  (The Noble Qur'ân, 45:36-37)"

"Say: 'O People of the Book (i.e., Jews and Christians)!   Come to common terms as between us and you:  That we worship none but Allah; that we associate no partners with Him; that we erect not, from among ourselves, Lords and patrons other than Allah.'  If then they turn back, say ye: 'Bear witness that we (at least) are Muslims (bowing to Allah's Will).'  (The Noble Qur'ân, 3:64)"

The GOD of Islam is the GOD of everything He created.  There is no middle man between the Creation and the Creator; "We [Allah] are closer to the person than the jugular vein.  (The Noble Qur'ân, 50:16).", and "Wherever you turn, there is the face of God.  (The Noble Qur'ân, 2:109)."
Allah Almighty knows what's in the heart and will judge us (all humans, Muslims and Non-Muslims) according to our intentions:

Let us look at Noble Verses 26:88-91 "The Day whereon neither wealth nor sons will avail, But only he (will prosper) that brings to God a sound heart; to the righteous, the Garden will be brought near, and to those straying in Evil, the Fire will be placed in full view."

Allah Almighty created all mankind with different races, mentality and beliefs; "O mankind! [this includes Muslims, Christians, Buddhists, Hindus, Jews, Agnostics, etc...] We created you from a single (pair) of a male and a female, and made you into nations and tribes, that ye may know each other.  Verily the most honoured of you in the sight of Allaah is the most righteous of you.  And Allaah has full knowledge and is well-acquainted.  (The Noble Qur'ân, 49:13)"  

Throughout the Noble Qurân, Allah Almighty sometimes talks directly to Muslims, to Non-Muslims and to all mankind (both Muslims and Non-Muslims).  This by itself means a lot to me as a human being.  It tells me that Allah Almighty's Book (The Noble Qurân) is not just meant for Muslims only.  Anyone can reach his Creator through Islam.

It also tells me that anyone can gain the Love of Allah Almighty, which would eventually lead him to know His Creator and end up in paradise under Him: "It is He Who has Created you [humans]; and of you [humans] are some that are unbelievers, and some that are believers: And Allah sees well all that ye do.  He has created the heavens and the earth in just portions, and has given you [humans] shape, and made your shapes beautiful: and to Him is the final Goal.  He knows what is in the heavens and on earth; and He knows what ye conceal and what ye reveal: Allaah Knows well the (secrets) of (all) hearts.  (The Noble Qur'ân, 64:2-4)"

He knows well that we need Him, and that we are nothing without Him and His guidance; "O ye men! It is ye that have need of Allah: but Allah is the One free of all wants, worthy of all praise.  If He so pleased, He could blot you out and bring in a new creation, Nor is that difficult for Allaah.  (The Noble Qur'ân, 35:15-17)"
Allah Almighty listens to our prayers; He is close and listens!

"When My servants ask thee concerning Me, I am indeed close (to them): I listen to the prayer of every suppliant when he calleth on Me: Let them also, with a will, Listen to My call, and believe in Me: That they may walk in the right way.   (The Noble Qur'ân, 2:186)"
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Post time 14-7-2006 08:15 AM | Show all posts
Originally posted by davetruchemic at 12-7-2006 10:08 PM


Post Edited by Moderator.

* e d i t e d *  ...CLAIM TO TEACH THE BEST BUT DO THE WORST THING ....RAPING OWN DAUGHTER, CUTTING PPLS HEAD LIVE ON NET, KILLING PPL LIKE NOBODYS BUSINESS, RAPING ...

Kenapa sempitkan fikiran dengan perkara-perkara terpencil sedangkan perkara besar seperti peristiwa Shatila di mana umat Islam dibunuh dgn sewenang2nya,bayi-bayi dicampak ke dinding sehingga mati, perempuan2 hamil ditoreh perutnya begitu juga peristiwa pembunuhan etnik oleh Serbia terhadap penduduk Islam Bosnia. Siapa yang merogol anak2 gadis Bosnia yang masih kecil dan tidak berdosa, siapa yang membunuh beratus ribu umat Islam Bosnia dengan cara yang sangat tragis dan hina? Bukankah re-open 9/11 juga membuktikan bahawa ia adalah angkara pentadbiran Bush dan kroninya untuk dia memulakan langkah menyerang Iraq? Siapa yang menyerang Iraq dan membunuh serta menghancurkan sebuah negara Islam yang kuat lagi kaya? Siapa pula yang sewenang-wenangnya sedang menyeksa penduduk Islam Palestin sehingga ke hari ini? Jangan butakan mata dan tulikan telinga dengan menyempitkan fikiran anda sehingga mengiktiraf mereka yang berjiwa syaitan dan iblis tetapi berwajah manusia ini sebagai wira anda.. Siapa pula yang menjadi tokey2 besar pengedar dadah di Msia? Siapa yang menjadi taukeh judi, nombor ekor dan loteri serta pengimpot arak terbesar di bumi yang bertuah ini? Siapa yang berusaha menyesatkan anak muda Islam yang sedang membesar, yang sedang mencari-cari hakikat diri dengan hiburan tanpa batasan dan dengan segala bahan-bahan cetak rompak porno agar menjadi seperti mereka di negara luar yang bangga melahirkan anak luar nikah? Sama ada anda seorang Islam atau bukan, tolong jangan hina agama Islam yang suci ini atau anda akan senasib dengan Sharon yang hidup seperti mati dan mati tapi hidup angkara perbuatannya yang sangat zalim terhadap umat Islam yang tidak berdosa kerana balasan Allah bukan setakat di akhirat semata2 tetapi juga di dunia supaya yang hidup mengambil ikhtibar darinya.
Wasallam..
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Post time 4-6-2007 10:38 PM | Show all posts
god should not have the same form as his creations just to show his exixtence..like pain,did u feel pain when you're being slap?you do feel the pain but can u describe the shape of pain?? huh? a true god cannot have the same and equal shape or form or qualities possessed by his creations,if that happens,that means god is not god..even human is more intelligent nowadays..
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Post time 6-6-2007 08:35 AM | Show all posts
Originally posted by KENNKID at 11-7-2006 08:28 AM
Islam teaches that the existence of God can be known through His numerous 'signs' or 'evidences' in the universe. God does not have a shape or size or form. He is not trapped by the space-time di ...


Hmph ... New Converts like Kenkidd says that God is this and that but Islam teaches Muslims, anyone who says anything DIFERENT about God other than what stated in Al Quran should be punished as heretic. Islam teachs Muslims to wage war against other religious believers in attempt to "bring them" to truth religion which is Islam. That means that in indirect way, Islam is stating that it alone holds the proper defination of God and all others are corrupted.

In my opinion - Islam knows SH!T about God. Only god islam knows is Muhammad. Whatever he says is the Law and therefore, followed like the commandment from god. ;)
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Post time 6-6-2007 05:41 PM | Show all posts
In my opinion - Islam knows SH!T about God. Only god islam knows is Muhammad. Whatever he says is the Law and therefore, followed like the commandment from god.


Does that means you EVERYTHING about God?

Muhammad is not a God, he just a prophet, the last one in the long line of God's messengers to mankind.

He never claimed to be one.

Muhammad is a man, albeit an extraodinary one. But he also a normal man. But he is no God.

In my opinion, you know $hit about God, Islam or even Muhammad. Your ignorance shown brighter with your statement.
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Post time 7-6-2007 08:29 AM | Show all posts
Muhammad is a normal man (and extra ordinary? Only when he is marrying underaged kids), Muslims claims.

Moses was an ordinary man, so did others like David, Joshua and Abraham. Did any of them asked their people to put their names in their prayers to God? No ... because they knew that God alone was important, and they only brought Messages (like a Postmen). You do not put the Postman who brought the letter from your loved ones in the middle of the room and treat him like a god so more letters could come to you.

But with Muhammad, they put him in the highest order as possible. Parade around with Muhammad this, Muhammad that, Muhammad said this and Muhammad said that. Even their daily prayers have mentioning of Muhammad, only then their miserable god Allah could listen to their prayers. NONSENSE. This is not a Religion, this is a Cult.

Muslims do not know God. They already have their made-believe god named Allah which in my opinion is not god. In that context, I see Muslims in the same light as I see Atheists - Godless.
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Post time 7-6-2007 11:19 PM | Show all posts
i agree Kennkid..

jgn tgk dgn mata aje, tapi tgk dgn mata hati skali.

setiap ciptaan ada bukti hakmilik Tuhan. ada hakcipta yg membuktikan kamu adalah ciptaanNya. takda benda yg Tuhan cipta sia2.

kenape Tuhan bagi 2 mata, 2 telinga tapi satu mulut? kenape tak dua mulut?
Kalau Tuhan hendak dia boleh bagi satu mata yg powernye sama ngan 2 mata, satu telinga yg sama power dgn 2 telinga. Tapi?

pada sy, ianya adalah sbg peringatan kpd kita supaya melebihkan "melihat" dan "mendengar" dari "berkata" sesuatu yg kita kurang pengetahuan tentangnya!

tulah bukti nyata yang kamu kene gune akal untuk memikirkan Kebesaran Tuhan yg zahir dpn mata kamu tapi tersirat.


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Post time 8-6-2007 08:47 AM | Show all posts
Hmph, kalau dua jari dibengkokan and tinggalkan jari tengah je dlm keadaan lurus, lain symbol itu.

Bagi ku, Muslims tak ada kena mengena dgn Tuhan ku, tak ada kena mengena dgn Hindusm, Buddhism ataupun Judaism. Tak tahulah Christianity macam mana. Dia orang macam tak tahu nak sokong ke atau nak belasah kamu. :hmm:
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Post time 8-6-2007 09:51 PM | Show all posts
Does God exist?

There was a young man who went overseas to study for quite a long time. When he returned, he asked his parents to find him a religious scholar or any expert
who could answer his 3 questions. Finally, his parents were able to find a Muslim scholar.

Young man: Who are you? Can you answer my questions?

Scholar: I am one of Allah (SubHana Wa Ta`ala )'s slaves and insha-Allah (God willing), I will be able to answer your questions.

Young man: Are you sure? A lot of Professors and experts were not able to answer my questions.

Scholar: I will try my best, with the help of Allah(SubHana Wa Ta`ala).

Young Man: I have 3 questions:

1. Does God exist? If so, show me His shape.
2. What is takdir (fate)?
3. If shaitan (Devil) was created from the fire, why at the end he will be thrown to hell that also created from fire. It certainly will not hurt him at all, since Shaitan (Devil) and the hell were created from fire. Did God not think of it this far?

Suddenly, the Scholar slapped the young man's face very hard.

Young Man (feeling pain): Why do you get angry at me?

Scholar: I am not angry. The slap is my answer to your three questions.

Young Man: I really don't understand.
Scholar: How do you feel after I slapped you?

Young Man: Of course, I felt the pain.

Scholar: So do you believe that pain exists?

Young Man: Yes.

Scholar: Show me the shape of the pain!

Young Man: I cannot.

Scholar: That is my first answer. All of us feel God's existence without being able to see His shape.

Scholar: Last night, did you dream that you will be slapped by me?

Young Man: No.

Scholar: Did you ever think that you will get a slap from me, today?

Young Man: No.

Scholar: That is takdir (fate).

Scholar: My hand that I used to slap you, what is it created from?

Young Man: It is created from skin.

Scholar: How about your face, what is it created from?

Young Man: Skin.

Scholar: How do you feel after I slapped you?

Young Man: In pain.

Scholar: Even though Shaitan (Devil) and also the hell were created from the fire, if Allah wants, insha-Allah (God willing), the hell will become a very painful place for Shaitan (Devil).

SUBHAAN ALLAH!
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Post time 8-6-2007 10:22 PM | Show all posts
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Post time 8-6-2007 10:48 PM | Show all posts

Article from The New Sunday Times dated 2nd May 1999

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Allah Allah Allah Lailahaillallah (There is no god but Allah)

Ya Allah Ya Malik (Oh Allah, Oh Lord)

Bismillahirrahmanirrahim (In the name of Allah the Compassionate, the Merciful)

Allah

[ Last edited by  mnm77 at 8-6-2007 11:23 PM ]
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Post time 9-6-2007 12:11 AM | Show all posts
What rubbish!


Here's exposing this islamic miracle thingy.

http://www.answering-islam.org/Quran/Science/index.htm
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Post time 10-6-2007 05:24 AM | Show all posts
Originally posted by Debmey at 9-6-2007 12:11 AM
What rubbish!


Here's exposing this islamic miracle thingy.

http://www.answering-islam.org/Quran/Science/index.htm



Even in the link you gave, the person tried hardly to refute the Qurani verses, but still many things cannot be confirmed 100% correct by him. He just made his own conclusion what he thought to be correct, but still he's guessing. Science still need  advancement through his arguments.

Sorry. Many times you learn Islam from there, that's why you were twisted.

Try learn more from:

http://www.islam-guide.com/frm-ch1-1.htm

[ Last edited by  mnm77 at 10-6-2007 05:42 AM ]
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Post time 10-6-2007 05:26 AM | Show all posts
People around the world know...



Tsunami hit Indonesia...Masjid unaffected



Earthquake in Turkey... Masjid stands firm, even the minaret which is tall and thin stay unaffected...

[ Last edited by  mnm77 at 10-6-2007 05:30 AM ]
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Post time 10-6-2007 11:34 AM | Show all posts

Reply #36 Debmey's post

"Many are the Jinns and men we have made for Hell: They have hearts wherewith they understand not, eyes wherewith they see not, and ears wherewith they hear not. They are like cattle,- nay more misguided: for they are heedless (of warning)"
(Surah Al-A'raaf 7:179)
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Post time 10-6-2007 04:02 PM | Show all posts
mnm77,

Explain why this mosque was destroyed?



This photo shows the spot where the tallest and oldest mosque in Simeuleu used to be. It was destroyed during the 1907 earthquake and tsunami, again by the 2002 earthquake, and again, during this year抯 earthquake and tsunami. The people are ready to build it again.
Photo: Teresita P. Usapdin/International Federation (p13639)

http://www.ifrc.org/docs/News/05/05121901/index.asp


On October 06, 2005 a powerful earthquake hit Kashmir area in Pakistan. Around 100,000 people have died, more than 3 million were left homeless. There is so much help needed there to bring those people back to normal life. A mosque in Balakot where the earthquack occured was completly destroyed. No one can fight nature and when it lashes out its anger disaster will occur no matter who you are or what religion you belong to. So, do not show such pictures to say Allah has protected the mosque and killed the Mulims, it sounds stupid.

The mosque in Turkey stands because the base was strong and nothing else. Use your comon sense to evaluate such things and not be blinded by emotions and blind faith.


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