Christians assume that only their god loves us..

kyas

go on continue with your approach... we can see that u are happy with it... and we can see what kind of person u are...

am i the one with all those laughing faces on my post...no

snipersnake

1. al quran cant be translated with just one verse.

2. allah never told us to hate others even non muslims. once the prophet stood up because there was a crowd that was on their way to the cemetary carriying the dead,and the crowd was not from a muslim crowd. a non muslim women also insults the prophet..what did he do? he smiled

and those quranic versions of yours, in all my studies, i have never heard of them. are you sure they are even authentic?

3. for me, if u find those friend of yours are forcing you to convert to islam, tell them to stop and say this...la iqra ha fid deen... no force in religion..they will stop..i gurantee..much better than rambling here..tell it to their faces..also, it does not take  font colors and emoticons to show your feeling that is why reading skills, semantics knowledge and psycholinguistics are important

1. al quran cant be translated with just one verse.

then why translate the bible with just one verse??

snipersnake

Originally posted by me at 9-12-2004 03:44 PM:


then why translate the bible with just one verse??

ask those who did :ah:

for me, i totally accept quran and the hadith so there is no need for me to trouble myself to search into the bible :ah:

kyas

Originally posted by snipersnake at 2004-12-10 09:40 AM:
3. for me, if u find those friend of yours are forcing you to convert to islam, tell them to stop and say this...la iqra ha fid deen... no force in religion..they will stop..i gurantee..

Dan katakanlah kepada orang-orang yang telah diberi Al Kitab dan kepada orang-orang yang ummi: "Apakah kamu (mau) masuk Islam?"

Jika mereka masuk Islam, sesungguhnya mereka telah mendapat petunjuk, dan jika mereka berpaling, maka kewajiban kamu hanyalah menyampaikan (ayat-ayat Allah).

Dan Allah Maha Melihat akan hamba-hamba-Nya. [3:20]

[ Last edited by kyas on 10-12-2004 at 09:56 AM ]

ask those who did

and they're gonna give a sincere answer?

Originally posted by kyas at 10-12-2004 09:54 AM:
Dan katakanlah kepada orang-orang yang telah diberi Al Kitab dan kepada orang-orang yang ummi: "Apakah kamu (mau) masuk Islam?"

Jika mereka masuk Islam, sesungguhnya mereka telah mend ...

then whta's the holy water being dog blood all about??

kyas

quran does not promote such behaviour... blame them for not knowing this

snipersnake

Originally posted by me at 9-12-2004 03:56 PM:


then whta's the holy water being dog blood all about??

the same thing here regarding quran is a poetry from muhammad

its all slender...if u know its not true..dont accept it...as simple as that..no need to ramble about it here..

snipersnake

Originally posted by me at 9-12-2004 03:55 PM:


and they're gonna give a sincere answer?

depends on who you are asking

Originally posted by snipersnake at 10-12-2004 10:12 AM:

its all slender...if u know its not true..dont accept it...as simple as that..no need to ramble about it here..

then what about the thread "a guide to missionary tactics"...why ramble about it here...??

Oreng

In Islam, God's way of showering love to all of us is by giving us live, the air, the water, the light, the food, uncountable actually... it is mentioned in many places in the Quran. I am sure there is no equivalent sentences in the bible that all these basic amenities are an indication of God's loves to mankind.

In Christianity, god shows love by stupidly allowing himself to be tortured to death (faking death actually) by man he (god) loves. Sound so pagan.

See the difference, Debmey and me ? Now think which religion is more  'true and correct '  in perspective ?

oh...you calling god stupid? aren't you gonna go to hell for that...??



Genesis



Chapter 1

1

1 In the beginning, when God created the heavens and the earth,

2

2 the earth was a formless wasteland, and darkness covered the abyss, while a mighty wind swept over the waters.

3

Then God said, "Let there be light," and there was light.

4 God saw how good the light was. God then separated the light from the darkness.

5

3 God called the light "day," and the darkness he called "night." Thus evening came, and morning followed - the first day.

6 Then God said, "Let there be a dome in the middle of the waters, to separate one body of water from the other." And so it happened:

7

God made the dome, and it separated the water above the dome from the water below it.

8 God called the dome "the sky." Evening came, and morning followed - the second day.

9

Then God said, "Let the water under the sky be gathered into a single basin, so that the dry land may appear." And so it happened: the water under the sky was gathered into its basin, and the dry land appeared.

10 God called the dry land "the earth," and the basin of the water he called "the sea." God saw how good it was.

11

Then God said, "Let the earth bring forth vegetation: every kind of plant that bears seed and every kind of fruit tree on earth that bears fruit with its seed in it." And so it happened:

12 the earth brought forth every kind of plant that bears seed and every kind of fruit tree on earth that bears fruit with its seed in it. God saw how good it was.

13

Evening came, and morning followed - the third day.

14 Then God said: "Let there be lights in the dome of the sky, to separate day from night. Let them mark the fixed times, the days and the years,

15

and serve as luminaries in the dome of the sky, to shed light upon the earth." And so it happened:

16 God made the two great lights, the greater one to govern the day, and the lesser one to govern the night; and he made the stars.

17

God set them in the dome of the sky, to shed light upon the earth,

18 to govern the day and the night, and to separate the light from the darkness. God saw how good it was.

19

Evening came, and morning followed - the fourth day.

20 Then God said, "Let the water teem with an abundance of living creatures, and on the earth let birds fly beneath the dome of the sky." And so it happened:

21

God created the great sea monsters and all kinds of swimming creatures with which the water teems, and all kinds of winged birds. God saw how good it was,

22 and God blessed them, saying, "Be fertile, multiply, and fill the water of the seas; and let the birds multiply on the earth."

23

Evening came, and morning followed - the fifth day.

24 Then God said, "Let the earth bring forth all kinds of living creatures: cattle, creeping things, and wild animals of all kinds." And so it happened:

25

God made all kinds of wild animals, all kinds of cattle, and all kinds of creeping things of the earth. God saw how good it was.

26 4 Then God said: "Let us make man in our image, after our likeness. Let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, the birds of the air, and the cattle, and over all the wild animals and all the creatures that crawl on the ground."

27

God created man in his image; in the divine image he created him; male and female he created them.

28 God blessed them, saying: "Be fertile and multiply; fill the earth and subdue it. Have dominion over the fish of the sea, the birds of the air, and all the living things that move on the earth."

29

God also said: "See, I give you every seed-bearing plant all over the earth and every tree that has seed-bearing fruit on it to be your food;

30 and to all the animals of the land, all the birds of the air, and all the living creatures that crawl on the ground, I give all the green plants for food." And so it happened.

31

God looked at everything he had made, and he found it very good. Evening came, and morning followed - the sixth day.

*ahem

Black Eye Peas

- Where is the love?

Debmey

Go ask the terrorists and their justifers.

snipersnake

Originally posted by Debmey at 10-12-2004 02:33 AM:
Go ask the terrorists and their justifers.

yes..dont forget the cause, george warner bush, ariel sharon :bgrin:

kid

Originally posted by me at 10-12-2004 10:47 AM:
oh...you calling god stupid? aren't you gonna go to hell for that...??

Genesis
Chapter 1
1
1 In the beginning, when God created the heavens and the earth,
2
2 the earth w ...

I think you miss the Oreng's point. He was comparing the different between Qur'an and Bible... whereas in Islam, God loves us by showering us with "rahmat" or all the necessity we need, God gives us our loved one,God is our helper, God is our Nourisher, the Generous and The Forgiving.... that's how God loves us in Islam.

Whereas in Bible, God emphasize the love by willing to "dead" to bear the sins of the mankind, although of course in Bible mention God create all things for human...but the view of God's love in Islam and Christian is not really the same.

really? he called god stupid you know...

Oreng

hmm..me, it is you who i think is 'stupid' (sorry, i have to...) because you give non-sensical attribute to God. What i means is that believing that God allowing himself to be tortured to death by man he loves is a stupid belief. (I know i have to respect what you believe, but give me a chance to say something from different angle though it hurt you).