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Post time 20-6-2008 12:17 PM | Show all posts

Reply #297 alyana's post

Actually it depends on what kind of song u're singing. But normally with R&B song, diction will be a bit different than the standard pop English song.

What... the letter "t" must be clear and crisp enough for the listeners to listen to. Don't pronounce it as Whad or wod... it's sometimes OK to pronounce as Whad.. but not all the time.

Boo... mm.. hard to say, but don't be too straight-forward like "ibu". Some breath control is needed to get that crispier and clearer and more accurate sound of "boo".

The... in standard sentence.. should pronounce "the" clearly with your tongue gripped close at your teeth, while blowing some smelly breath of yours in between them. Don't be too lazy to pronounce it as "der" or "ter". This is the most common diction problem among Malays.

"Stunna" in "stunner" is not diction thingy.. but slang thingy. In R&B song, u can't sing like Latino singing English song. You should pronounce it like nigger. The more nigger, the better. Hehe. For beginner, try not to stress "R" for word like "stunner", "figure".. it sounds too "white" or "snowy" gituh.

When u have improved your diction, u can crawl slowly singing with slang.. then, u can try singing with accent.. then, for experts, u can try singing with attitude, babeh. Play with your tongue, tips of your lips, nasal vocal, smelly breath...

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 Author| Post time 20-6-2008 03:36 PM | Show all posts

Reply #301 Muntz's post

thanks for your tips, muntz...really appreciate it...
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 Author| Post time 20-6-2008 03:39 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by Muntz at 20-6-2008 01:41 AM
My comment...

1) Masih ada masalah diction. Harus diperbaiki. Boo, what, there, some words are still problem.... especially THE.
2) Masalah slang. Dalam lagu nie... stunner shd be pronounced  ...
aku tau ada masalah diction, so motif aku nyanyi lagu english adalah untuk improve the diction...slang plak aku tak pandai, so aku just guna slang biasa
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Post time 20-6-2008 05:35 PM | Show all posts
[quote]Originally posted by Urban_Iz at 20-6-2008 03:39 PM
aku tau ada masalah diction, so motif aku nyanyi lagu english adalah untuk improve the diction...slang plak aku tak pandai, so aku just guna slang biasa
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Post time 20-6-2008 06:05 PM | Show all posts
abg iz... siapakah someone tuh?

beshhh sgt with u neh,... harmony beshhh nyerr...:pompom:

beshh beshhhh :pompom: :pompom:
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 Author| Post time 20-6-2008 06:53 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by alyana at 20-6-2008 05:35 PM



u taknak jadi paul_Iz kembali kew?? ni betul2 mcm versi paul_iz lindungan bulan gittew,

ala DCT gitteww .


boleh , kalau nak jadi paul _iz, tp kena balancekan dgn constructive komen  ...

yana, aku mana leh jadi paul iz kalau aku yang kena komen...takkan nak melatah plak kan...
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 Author| Post time 20-6-2008 06:54 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by seroja at 20-6-2008 06:05 PM
abg iz... siapakah someone tuh?

beshhh sgt with u neh,... harmony beshhh nyerr...:pompom:

beshh beshhhh :pompom: :pompom:
thanks sebab sudi dengar...walaupun tak se-best lagu
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Post time 21-6-2008 07:34 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by Urban_Iz at 23-5-2008 04:45 AM
kalau tak silap aku, Tenor is for highest male voice, while Alto is the lowest female voice...



aku tak agree bebenornya , samaade dlm dunia opera mahupun pop. cheh berlagak lak aku. tp ni salah.

believe me or not?
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Post time 21-6-2008 07:36 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by seroja at 24-5-2008 03:16 PM
owh lagu miraie tuh soprano kew?

kaka narco - alto kan. vley keje jd dj wadio



setahu aku

mana2 yg reach alto al contralto  , mezzo, dan coloratura  semuanya suku kaum soprano!
tp ade org kata alto belum sampai tahap soprano.. tp ramai kata dah tahap soprano

kesimpulannya

alto/contralto

soprano = mezzo dan coloratura , dan semua suku kata soprano

[ Last edited by  stonehead02 at 21-6-2008 07:41 PM ]
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Post time 21-6-2008 07:38 PM | Show all posts

Reply #303 Urban_Iz's post

Sound card problem kot. Aku sblm tukar sound card pun selalu pecah bila tarik suara tinggi2. Better ko tukar yg bagus sikit... at least pakai Audigy Value punya sound card. Aku beli arituh pun pasal taknak bagi suara aku pecah. Murah jer.. rasanya kalau kat Low Yat tu tak sampai pun RM100 kot. Sbb a bit annoying lah kalau nak tarik suara speaker tu macam nak pecah jer.
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Post time 21-6-2008 07:42 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by Muntz at 21-6-2008 07:38 PM
Sound card problem kot. Aku sblm tukar sound card pun selalu pecah bila tarik suara tinggi2. Better ko tukar yg bagus sikit... at least pakai Audigy Value punya sound card. Aku beli arituh pun pa ...



soundcard apa yeh yg bagus!. aku nak beli satu!
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Post time 21-6-2008 07:51 PM | Show all posts

Reply #311 stonehead02's post

Aku beli yg Audigy Value jer. Kalau ko nak power sikit, pakai Audigy Blast macam2 tu. Main game pun sodap pakai sound card power2 camtu. Tapi aku pakai yg biasa2 jer.. cuma elok sikit dari default sound card kat PC aku nie. Asalkan suara tak pecah bila nyanyi part tinggi.
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Post time 21-6-2008 07:54 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by Muntz at 21-6-2008 07:51 PM
Aku beli yg Audigy Value jer. Kalau ko nak power sikit, pakai Audigy Blast macam2 tu. Main game pun sodap pakai sound card power2 camtu. Tapi aku pakai yg biasa2 jer.. cuma elok sikit dari defaul ...



ramai yg kata camtuh!.
Creative Audigy yeh!


hah, ni Muntz ni dr range alto ke soprano- mezzo , but definitely not collatura.

muntz boleh pi bariton dan bass tak?
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Post time 21-6-2008 07:55 PM | Show all posts

Reply #313 stonehead02's post

Erk.. aku tak reti istilah2 vokal nie. Yg pasti, suara aku kalau key yg rendah tu mmg takleh nak harap lah. I don't have that typical male voice. Jadi kalau bawak lagu Josh Groban tu mmg hancus lah.
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Post time 21-6-2008 08:01 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by Muntz at 21-6-2008 07:55 PM
Erk.. aku tak reti istilah2 vokal nie. Yg pasti, suara aku kalau key yg rendah tu mmg takleh nak harap lah. I don't have that typical male voice. Jadi kalau bawak lagu Josh Groban tu mmg hancus l ...



oh aku rasa ko  tenor, alto hingga ke mezzo kot.  sbb kalau colatura maknanya ko leh nyanyi lagu Mariah Carey semua lagu dia tanpa turun key, atau ada stau lagu nih,

tp yg kagumnnya dgn muntz neh, dia hit that pitch guna modal voice. mmg sungguh kagum!. aku malangnya, dgn pakai modal voice hanya leh  reach level tenor . bila alto,  sampai ke soprano(mezzo) aku kena switch falsetto. sbb tu dalam opera falsetto dgn headtone sama jek. coloratura mmg aku tak sampai, terus dia jump ke whistling . baritone dan bass mmg aku boleh dgn modal voice.


si iss tu pakai modal voice ke atau falsetto tuk nyanyi lagu pompuan tu muntz?

[ Last edited by  stonehead02 at 21-6-2008 08:05 PM ]
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Post time 21-6-2008 08:20 PM | Show all posts

Reply #315 stonehead02's post

abg stone.. nak komeng cemtu gak   yg alto moto tuh... oja moto apew?
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Post time 21-6-2008 08:27 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by seroja at 21-6-2008 08:20 PM
abg stone.. nak komeng cemtu gak   yg alto moto tuh... oja moto apew?



oja confirm mezzo kot.  pompuan ni susah sikit..  si narco tu confirm contralto  (ishhh yek yeh je aku neh    )


to yg confirm, lelaki pun boleh ade suara mcm oja . sbb tu ada yg takmo bagikan kategori lelaki dan pompuan, but sbb gender tetap gender so, begitulah adanya.
tp yg aku geram neh, napa ade cikgu yg bagi pendapat lain2 . lepas tu yg paling bestnya, masing2 confidence dgn taksub betul dgn dergnya opinion. aku just dgr jelah
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Post time 21-6-2008 08:30 PM | Show all posts

Reply #317 stonehead02's post

mezzo tuh apew abg stone? mcm nama minyak masak jek.. tak pown nama cheese mozzerela ke aperw tuh..
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Post time 21-6-2008 08:46 PM | Show all posts

mendap kew?

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 Author| Post time 22-6-2008 11:48 AM | Show all posts
abg stone, can you tell me what is my type of voice??? kalau nak buat vocal check guna pinano pun ble, bagi demo play dulu, nanti aku peractice..

huhuhu...aku eager gak nak tau how low and how high i can go...
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