[MERGED]-Debmey: SHOW PROOF THAT PROPHET MOHAMMAD IS A PAEDOPHILE?

Debmey

No mention of sex at all sir. Numbers 31 merely talks about sparing Midianites who have not sinned alive because Midianites have been indulging in sexual immorality.
Unlike Mo having sex with a 9 year old.
From Bukhari vol. 7, #65:

            "Narrated Aisha that the prophet wrote the marriage contract with her when she was six years old and he consummated his marriage when she was nine years old.  Hisham said:  "I have been informed that Aisha remained with the prophet for nine years (i.e. till his death).""


There is no practice of paedophilia in Christianity, again unlike Islam where 9 year olds are still be raped by muslims all over the world cos muslims took cue from Mo.

[ Last edited by Debmey on 22-2-2005 at 10:13 AM ]

aenemy7

But did Prophet Muhammad(pbuh) rape Aisha?? he married her legally right???:lol :lol :lol ,

go and read your pornographic bible debmey...:lol


Allah Knows Best,Peace Yall....

Originally posted by Debmey at 2005-2-22 12:10 AM:
Really? So you do admit that Mo was a sinful man lah.

You are right, Christian doctrines tells us that all have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God, including those people you mentioned. ...

Every scrap of good advice about men of God in the bible (what little there is of it) seems to hardly be original. How can men of God be so and how can they be so described in the supposedly 'book of God'?  It only goes to show that the bible is full of lies.  But you still defend your bible,  with all of the bigotry with which it is filled to the brim.

As far as the holy prophet Muhammad  (peace be upon him) is concerned, like Fuzzman & all Muslims in this forum say too, the prophet never had  that negative behaviour that you have slandered on him.

The proof is in the acceptance of Islam itself and the acceptance of the prophet. The prophet was well known for his honesty, his trustworthiness, (integrity), his impeccable moral standards, his excellent manners etc etc....everything that is good, above the behaviour & manners of the earlier messengers including Jesus -- that is why he is the final  prophet and a messenger of God.

The prerequisite of prophethood is  trust by the community. The earlier prophets were also like that -- trusted by the good, hated by the bad.

The bible in many instances states the contrary about them  - unbecoming of the behaviour of  prophets and God's trustees. The bible is therefore lying. Fabricated tales have been inserted by liars. You have no proof to deny that. We have proof that those men were men of God.

If the bible contains lies what about the words of  its believers?

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Fuzzman

Debmey wrote: There is no practice of paedophilai in Christianity, again unlike Islam where 9 year olds are still be raped by muslims all over the world cos muslims took cue from Mo.

My next course of action is very relevant because I need to expose your level of acceptances and the "self-made standards" by which you make them. You charge that Prophet Mohammad was a paedophile irrelevant of the fact that marriage was secured through both parties in a legitimate manner. Prophet Mohammad according to you was paedophile all the way no matter what. You are revolted by acts of paedophiia coming from a Messenger not of your faith.

Now let's see you shift that anger into the following taken from your Bible that proves acts of paedophilia. Show us all your forte by taking on the below.:-

HOW DO YOU JUDGE PROPHET MOSES [PBUH] FOR ENCOURAGING ACTS OF PAEDOPHILIA?
Numbers 31:17-18  reads :"Now therefore kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman that hath known man by lying with him.[31:18]But all the women children, that have not known a man by lying with him, keep alive for yourselves."
From the above verse, we see that married women are to be put to the death while young girls be spared to be kept by the victors for themselves? Kept alive for what? Kill the mothers but spare alive the young girls? For what?  How old would you roughly put the expectant age of a girl mentoned in this verse [from the time of Moses] to be when she is considered not knowing sexual intercourse? Six, Eight or even Nine perhaps?

HOW THEN DO YOU JUDGE GOD ? IS GOD A PAEDOPHILE TOO TO WANT TRIBUTES MADE OUT OF YOUNG GIRLS?
Numbers 31:35-40 reads  [35]And thirty and two thousand persons in all, of  women that had not known man by lying with him.[40]And the persons [were] sixteen thousand; of which the LORD'S tribute [was] thirty and two persons.
So does that make God of the Jews a paedophile too for wanting 32 young girls from 32,000 young girls, who have not known sex with a man as a fitting tribute?

You judge Prophet Mohammad swiftly. Now do the same for Moses and God Himself? Dare you perform this feat?

ARI FUZZMAN

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Debmey

Kept alive to live among the Israelites and absorbed into the population of course. There is no mention of sex at all.

Unlike Mo having sex with a 9 year old.
From Bukhari vol. 7, #65:

            "Narrated Aisha that the prophet wrote the marriage contract with her when she was six years old and he consummated his marriage when she was nine years old.  Hisham said:  "I have been informed that Aisha remained with the prophet for nine years (i.e. till his death).""

aenemy7

That's a proof that it's a marriage right???so if u married was it immoral and illegal to have sex with ur partner???:lol :lol


Allah Knows Best,Peace Yall....

Debmey

Thats a proof of paedophilia. Marriage as a defence is not valid.

What else?

I think allah knows nothin, its what Mo wants, then he recoives a strange revelation and it always favours him.

Originally posted by aenemy7 at 2005-2-22 11:04 AM:
That's a proof that it's a marriage right???so if u married was it immoral and illegal to have sex with ur partner???:lol :lol


Allah Knows Best,Peace Yall....

Debmey is married, but has no sexual relationship with his wife. He gets sexual gratification by cursing others.

Debmey

Ahahahahhahaha...... kennkid is stuck again.

cheers

Originally posted by Debmey at 2005-2-22 02:20 PM:
Ahahahahhahaha...... kennkid is stuck again.

cheers

What stuck? You're the one who is stuck with your false accusation. Prophet Muhammad was married to Ayesha, he has always been fully loved, respected and trusted. He will remain so till the end of time ~ God's final messenger to mankind.

[ Last edited by KENNKID on 22-2-2005 at 03:33 PM ]

Debmey

He married a 9 year old, thats paedophilia.

Fuzzman

Debmey wrote: Kept alive to live among the Israelites and absorbed into the population of course. There is no mention of sex at all.

Hahahahaha what? Kept alive and absorbed into the population. Now that's a smart way of cloaking paedophilia. C'mon my preacher fren. You know it. I know it. Hell the whole world knows it. Numbers 31:18 and Numbers 31:40 breathes peadophilia and those women children are the spoils of war.

Prophet Mohammad spoke of gaining dark-eyed virgins in the Afterlife to all who fight the cause of Islam but Numbers are a different thing altogether. They give you the virgins in this life. That is why many Christians are turning to Islam today. They prefer rewards in the Afterlife than getting a raw impossible reward in this life.

SO HOW JUDGE YOU MOSES AND GOD OF THE ACCUSATION OF PAEDOPHILIA?

ARI FUZZMAN

Originally posted by Debmey at 2005-2-22 03:34 PM:
He married a 9 year old, thats paedophilia.

Ayesha was his wife. She grew to love and respect him very much. She was the source of reference for so many of the seerah  of the holy prophet. She also memorized the Qur'an. She became an exemplary lady for all Muslimah.

She had no complaints, her parents  had no complaints, no one had any complaints in fact their respect for the holy prophet grew.

Your complaint is based on some 21st century matsalleh thinking in the west who don't know head or tail about eastern culture & its history. There was nothing wrong with the prophet's marriage to Ayeshah.

Debmey

Originally posted by Fuzzman at 2005-2-22 03:40 PM:

Hahahahaha what? Kept alive and absorbed into the population. Now that's a smart way of cloaking paedophilia. C'mon my preacher fren. You know it. I know it. Hell the whole world kno ...

Where? Where does it say sex at all. I don't see it.

What i do see is Mo haviung sex with a 9 year old, clearly recorded in the hadiths.


From Bukhari vol. 7, #65:

            "Narrated Aisha that the prophet wrote the marriage contract with her when she was six years old and he consummated his marriage when she was nine years old.  Hisham said:  "I have been informed that Aisha remained with the prophet for nine years (i.e. till his death).""

DivinePonytail

Debmey wrote: Where? Where does it say sex at all. I don't see it.

"To the pure, all things are pure, but to those who are corrupted and do not believe, nothing is pure. In fact, both their minds and consciences are corrupted." Titus 1:15 NIV

Originally posted by DivinePonytail at 2005-2-22 04:52 PM:


"To the pure, all things are pure, but to those who are corrupted and do not believe, nothing is pure. In fact, both their minds and consciences are corrupted." Titus 1:15 NIV

Titus was paul's best friend. Both were  corrupted. Both corrupt other people by corrupting Jesus' teachings.

[ Last edited by KENNKID on 22-2-2005 at 05:15 PM ]

Debmey

Muslims are the ones corrupted by Mohd.

DivinePonytail

KENNKID wrote: Titus was paul's best friend. Both were  corrupted. Both corrupt other people by corrupting Jesus' teachings.

Luke 6:43-45

No good tree bears bad fruit, nor does a bad tree bear good fruit. Each tree is recognized by its own fruit. People do not pick figs from thornbushes, or grapes from briers. The good man brings good things out of the good stored up in his heart, and the evil man brings evil things out of the evil stored up in his heart. For out of the overflow of his heart his mouth speaks.

Fuzzman

Originally posted by KENNKID at 2005-2-22 05:12 PM:
Titus was paul's best friend. Both were  corrupted. Both corrupt other people by corrupting Jesus' teachings.

Very true. How could Paul be "inspired" by Jesus when he never knew the man at all. Paul despised whatever Jesus stood for. That was why Paul aka Saul the Butcher was well-known throughout the region as the murderer of the followers of Jesus. It was Paul who produced the name Christians for those who were in the fold of the true Jesuits. When Paul saw that the task of murdering those Christians were getting too diffcult as they kept growing in numbers, Paul therefore devised a ingenious plan of having met the Spirit of Jesus while on a journey to Damascus. It was there Paul peaded allegiance to the cause of Jesus, but not without paganising Jesus as the Son of God. From then on it was Paul who directed, paganised and went against whatever Jesus had preached.

Therefore it is very true that it was in finality that Paul was solely responsible for corrupting the teachings of Jesus. A mission fully accomplished. Something that didn't require standing on the deck of a carrier to get done!

ARI FUZZMAN

Fuzzman

Divine Ponytail wrote:
[quote]Debmey wrote: Where? Where does it say sex at all. I don't see it.

"To the pure, all things are pure, but to those who are corrupted and do not believe, nothing is pure. In fact, both their minds and consciences are corrupted." Titus 1:15 NIV[/quote]
" You can bring a donkey to a water trough but you cannot force it to drink from it."
Fuzzman 1:01 NKV.

ARI FUZZMAN

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